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NASA’s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
"In the nearly two months since Vice President Mike Pence directed NASA to return
to the Moon by 2024, space agency engineers have been working to put together a plan that leverages existing technology, large projects nearing completion, and commercial rockets to bring this about. Last week, an updated plan that demonstrated a human landing in 2024, annual sorties to the lunar surface thereafter, and the beginning of a Moon base by 2028, began circulating within the agency. A graphic, shown below, provides information about each of the major launches needed to construct a small Lunar Gateway, stage elements of a lunar lander there, fly crews to the Moon and back, and conduct refueling missions. This decade-long plan, which entails 37 launches of private and NASA rockets, as well as a mix of robotic and human landers, culminates with a "Lunar Surface Asset Deployment" in 2028, likely the beginning of a surface outpost for long-duration crew stays. Developed by the agency's senior human spaceflight manager, Bill Gerstenmaier, this plan is everything Pence asked for—an urgent human return, a Moon base, a mix of existing and new contractors." See: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...lunar-outpost/ |
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NASA’s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
On 21/05/2019 2:56 am, wrote:
"In the nearly two months since Vice President Mike Pence directed NASA to return to the Moon by 2024, space agency engineers have been working to put together a plan that leverages existing technology, large projects nearing completion, and commercial rockets to bring this about. Last week, an updated plan that demonstrated a human landing in 2024, annual sorties to the lunar surface thereafter, and the beginning of a Moon base by 2028, began circulating within the agency. A graphic, shown below, provides information about each of the major launches needed to construct a small Lunar Gateway, stage elements of a lunar lander there, fly crews to the Moon and back, and conduct refueling missions. This decade-long plan, which entails 37 launches of private and NASA rockets, as well as a mix of robotic and human landers, culminates with a "Lunar Surface Asset Deployment" in 2028, likely the beginning of a surface outpost for long-duration crew stays. Developed by the agency's senior human spaceflight manager, Bill Gerstenmaier, this plan is everything Pence asked for—an urgent human return, a Moon base, a mix of existing and new contractors." See: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...lunar-outpost/ Plans are easy. They've been told they need to get back to the moon quickly, so they've produced a plan to do so. Doesn't mean it will happen, or even that the people at NASA think it will happen. It's a good way of telling contractors to increase their prices though. Sylvia. |
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NASA?s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
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says... See: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...lunar-outpost/ Plans are easy. They've been told they need to get back to the moon quickly, so they've produced a plan to do so. Doesn't mean it will happen, or even that the people at NASA think it will happen. It's a good way of telling contractors to increase their prices though. Also doesn't mean Congress will fund any of this. They'll be suspicious that the early funding requests are just the tip of the iceberg and that huge increases will be looming in the years ahead. This has doomed every single "plan" that NASA has had to go beyond LEO since the 1970s to today. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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NASA’s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
I have a continuing suggestion. Put a ground robot station
on the Moon's surface below L2. The robots could be made more fault tolerant there, while they construct ultra-light solar sails. I am talking about multi-Kilometer sized sails. At L2 there is a vertical climb from ground, no Moon circling. I believe that robots with a ground construction base frame would be able to recover from faults easier than free fall. Free-fall sail oscillations would not exist also. |
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NASA’s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
There seems to be a lot of concern in the thread on
the landing vehicle. The original must have used an inertial guidance system. But these days we have work going on for GPS airliner landing systems. It might be worth the effort to put a GPS constellation around the moon. The question would then be to use an automated monitoring system or make an earth moon network connection. The goal is to allow zero-zero airliner landings. So why not moon landers. |
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NASA’s full Artemis plan revealed: 37 launches and a lunar outpost
On 5/20/2019 12:56 PM, wrote:
Developed by the agency's senior human spaceflight manager, Bill Gerstenmaier, this plan is everything Pence asked for—an urgent human return, a Moon base, a mix of existing and new contractors." See: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...lunar-outpost/ Given the current political climate in DC I'd say this plan is even more still-born than was Constellation and President Bush's VSE a decade + 5 years ago. I agree with VP Pence's sense of urgency but it is disingenuous at best to think that the DC establishment and NASA in particular has the means or skills today to drive this effort. Making SLS a key component of this plan just exposes it as the fantasy it is. I know this is harsh. Too bad. I feel sorry for the senior leadership at NASA. Their hearts are in the right place, they are good people. They just don't realize that their methodology belongs to a long lost past that will not return. We'd be better served if NASA acted like an investment bank and Congress gave it the funds necessary to buy the desired end goal with as little micro-management as possible. That has not been the established paradigm and is not evident in this work of fiction either. Dave |
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