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Ares I - When Rocket Engineers Have Abortions
jacob navia wrote:
From http://www.space.com/news/090210-sen...ulus-bill.html quote WASHINGTON - The U.S. Senate passed an $838 billion economic stimulus package Tuesday that includes $1.3 billion for NASA - more than double the amount the House approved Jan. 28 for the U.S. space agency in its version of the bill. Congressional negotiators now must hammer out differences between the Senate measure and the $819 billion House bill, which did not receive any Republican votes Great, now those NASA idiots can throw even more money at the rocket abortion called Ares I, a design that was extinct before it was born. Happy Birthday Charles Darwin! |
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Ares I - When Rocket Engineers Have Abortions
On Feb 10, 5:23�pm, kT wrote:
jacob navia wrote: From http://www.space.com/news/090210-sen...ulus-bill.html quote WASHINGTON - The U.S. Senate passed an $838 billion economic stimulus package Tuesday that includes $1.3 billion for NASA - more than double the amount the House approved Jan. 28 for the U.S. space agency in its version of the bill. Congressional negotiators now must hammer out differences between the Senate measure and the $819 billion House bill, which did not receive any Republican votes Great, now those NASA idiots can throw even more money at the rocket abortion called Ares I, a design that was extinct before it was born. Happy Birthday Charles Darwin! hopefully obama would stop ares and build something practical and workable, money can be redirected |
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Ares I - When Rocket Engineers Have Abortions
bob haller safety advocate wrote:
hopefully obama would stop ares and build something practical and workable, money can be redirected Isn't it more likely that NASA would simply review/change the design but still call it Ares I ? Seems to me that they have 3 options: *Cancel Ares I, which basically cancels everything Bush had asked for (capsule, launcher etc). Similar to other failed projects like those X vehicles that were attempts at replacing the shuttle. * Keep the project, but remove whatever political constraints which forced that flawed design and let engineers redesign Ares I from scratch. This allows connected projects (like the capsule) to continue to move forwards. * Cancel the capsule concept and order 3-4 new shuttles with same shape, but with updated systems and materials (such as electric apus/hydrolics). |
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Ares I - When Rocket Engineers Have Abortions
John Doe wrote:
bob haller safety advocate wrote: hopefully obama would stop ares and build something practical and workable, money can be redirected Isn't it more likely that NASA would simply review/change the design but still call it Ares I ? Seems to me that they have 3 options: *Cancel Ares I, which basically cancels everything Bush had asked for (capsule, launcher etc). Similar to other failed projects like those X vehicles that were attempts at replacing the shuttle. That would be great. * Keep the project, but remove whatever political constraints which forced that flawed design and let engineers redesign Ares I from scratch. This allows connected projects (like the capsule) to continue to move forwards. That capsule is like an obese woman. * Cancel the capsule concept and order 3-4 new shuttles with same shape, but with updated systems and materials (such as electric apus/hydrolics). 1) We already have three shuttles. 2) They are fantastically expensive. 3) Anything newer will be even more expensive. 4) You could do the same thing with modern rockets, and make all your improvements, but skip the capsule and use a simple nosecone lifeboat. We want freight downmass, and high flight rates. You're only going to get that with conventional liquid fueled booster assisted bipropellent rockets, such as for instance a five meter hydrogen core (Delta IV) and two hydrocarbon reusable flyback or ocean recoverable boosters, for instance, something that looks like a Falcon 1/9 or a Taurus II. Think of it as a natural extension of the SpaceX Falcon 9 Heavy. Sea recovery is safe and easy. The tourists will love it. Danger and all that. We'll pick them up in a luxury boat. And then we'll have all the components for colonization. |
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