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Old September 13th 08, 08:12 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Pentcho Valev
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On Sep 13, 2:10*am, Tom Roberts wrote:
John Kennaugh wrote:
there is a serious
alternative to relativity provided by more modern versions of Newton's
corpuscular theory namely Ritz's emission theory of 1908 and Waldron's
Ballistic theory of 1977. [...] *The
majority of experiments are consistent with both theories


"The majority" does not matter. What matters is that NO experiment
refutes the theory. That is true for SR (within its domain), but not for
Ritz and not for Waldron AFAIK.


No Honest Roberts you are lying again. You agree that both the
Michelson-Morley and Pound-Rebka experiments are "FULLY COMPATIBLE
WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
POSTULATE":

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...cc9ce0b836800?

Of course, elsewhere you claim that, even if "light in vacuum does not
travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz transform", special
relativity "would be unaffected".

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...1ebdf49c012de2
Tom Roberts, Feb 1, 2006: "If it is ultimately discovered that the
photon has a nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the
invariant speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but
both Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their
domains of applicability would be reduced)."

But that is the sad reality of Einstein zombie world - you just say
anything and in reply zombies sing "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we all
believe in relativity, relativity, relativity".

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 14th 08, 04:15 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique,sci.astro
Peter Webb[_2_]
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SNIP

Of course, elsewhere you claim that, even if "light in vacuum does not
travel at the invariant speed of the Lorentz transform", special
relativity "would be unaffected".

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...1ebdf49c012de2
Tom Roberts, Feb 1, 2006: "If it is ultimately discovered that the
photon has a nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the
invariant speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but
both Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their
domains of applicability would be reduced)."

*************
Absolutely correct. The key idea in Einstein's train argument is the
transfer of information (and ultimately causality) rather than light itself;
he was certain enough light travelled at the maximum speed to use that in
his thought experiment.



But that is the sad reality of Einstein zombie world - you just say
anything and in reply zombies sing "Divine Einstein" and "Yes we all
believe in relativity, relativity, relativity".

************
Of course we believe in relativity. If special relativity isn't correct, I
daresay they will have some problems with that big proton collider they have
just built.



Pentcho Valev


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Old September 14th 08, 04:56 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Androcles[_8_]
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"Peter Webb" wrote in message
u...
SNIP


Good idea, snip done. Now **** off, spamming ****-for-brains.


 




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