Atheist Apocalypse

Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jul 10, 9:03 am, kT wrote:

I didn't say 'civilization and human life' you ****ing retard.

But you did say, "life on the planet Earth, and thus by default, the
exploration and colonization of space". Under that tortured
definition, civilization and human life are automatically included
too.

The order of priority is life, humans and civilization. The easiest way
to nix civilization is to stomp life out at its roots, which is
precisely what human civilization is doing because of religion.

Religion has no respect for reality, this I find no evidence to justify
any respect for his or your positions, particularly any retarded
religious nonsense. And I'm not even an atheist, on the contrary, my
spiritual delusions are none of your ****ing business, and I certainly
wouldn't bring them up in any scientific discussion unless they were
based upon what we already think we know about how reality functions.

On the contrary, all evidence thus far justifies far more ire or
criticism on my part. I've actually been going very easy on you retards.

Again, calling people "retards" is not a guaranteed way of making them
agree with you. Quite the opposite, in fact.

I couldn't care less if he agrees with me or not, on the contrary, a
superficial perusal of his post indicates that quite the contrary, no
amount of explanation or rationalization of the reality of life on the
surface of a nickel iron cored water covered rocky planet is going to
convince him of the perilousness, uniqueness or remarkableness of this
situation, and how quickly retards like him can cause it to go to hell
by bringing nutty delusional religious nonsense into public spectacle.

kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jun 28, 2:41 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html

Enjoy your rapture, retards.

Again, this has exactly zilch to do with space policy, space history,
or the environment. If you ever wondered why people don't seem to
like you, the fact that you're spamming irrelevant content might have
something to do with it.

Then put kT into your killfile you little twerp.

Religion is the greatest threat to life on the planet Earth, and thus
by default, the exploration and colonization of space. That certainly
IS relevant to sci.*.

Really?? Even as an agnostic I don't believe that. Look at the 20th
century. The greatest destroyers of civilization and human life

I didn't say 'civilization and human life' you ****ing retard.

You think that civilization and human life can live without nature.

You American retards are in for a real big surprise real soon now.


My my, it is obvious when you know you've been bested. I love it that
you don't even attempt a logical response and instead launch right into
ad hominem invective. Priceless.

Ok, I'll play one more round. You say your metric isn't the destruction
of human life and civilization, but rather the destruction of nature.
Fine. Unquestionably the atheistic Soviet and Maoist governments left
monuments to the destruction of the environment that truly dwarf
anything produced by the theistic West. All in the pursuit of the
perfect rational society. Chernobyl anyone?

Thanks for playing kt. You amuse me. Though, sadly I can already tell,
not for long. You just aren't that challenging.

Eric,

The generally accepted number of victims of the Stalin era of the Soviet
Union is around 20 million (I've seen reputable estimates run from 15
million to 30 million, with 20 million being the most common and the
accepted consensus number). See Wikipedia he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin#...ber_of_victims

Twenty million and that's just one regime. Remember, my argument was
that the total body count of the German National Socialist government
and the Communist regimes in power from roughly 1917 to the end of the
century was in excess of 100 million.

Looking at Wikipedia and The 20th Century Atlas - Death Toll and
throwing out the lowest and highest estimates here are what I consider
to be reasonable consensus numbers.

USSR

Stalin Regime
Kulaks ~7M (most killed through intentional famine)
Gulag ~12M
Purges ~1.2M

Nazi Germany

Genocide
Jewish Holocaust ~5.9M
Soviet POWs ~2-3M
Ethnic Poles ~2M
Romani ~1M
Disabled ~0.2M
Homosexuals ~10k

War Deaths
Civilians ~28M
Combatants ~14M

Communist China
Mao Regime
Rural Purges ~2-4M
Urban Purges ~1M
Great Leap Forward ~20-40M
Labor Camps ~20M
Tibet ~1M

Adding this all up (and taking the average when any significant range is
indicated) I arrive at a total number of 128.8 million deaths. And I
haven't even added in deaths in post-Stalin USSR or post-Mao China nor
have I included second tier Communist regimes like the Khmer Rouge
(estimated to have caused 1.4 ~ 2.2 million deaths). This is a stunning
number of people killed for supposedly rational, non-religions movements.

OM wrote:
...Is that Neo-Nazi troll still ranting? Just killfile the ******* and
put him out of your - and our - misery.



I think it's time we send Elle Wood down to help you with this libel suite.
(Reese, is that really _you_?:
http://www.geocities.com/ther_over/r...itherspoon.jpg
Well, she does have the super-cute nose and Metaluna forehead on her....)
Failing that, Elle Driver could be sent.
She'd fix this problem in no time flat, in a true example of blind justice.
....Tommy will end up with _two_ trouser snakes in his underwear. ;-)

Pat

Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jun 28, 2:41 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html

Enjoy your rapture, retards.

Again, this has exactly zilch to do with space policy, space history,
or the environment. If you ever wondered why people don't seem to
like you, the fact that you're spamming irrelevant content might have
something to do with it.

Then put kT into your killfile you little twerp.

Religion is the greatest threat to life on the planet Earth, and
thus by default, the exploration and colonization of space. That
certainly IS relevant to sci.*.

Really?? Even as an agnostic I don't believe that. Look at the 20th
century. The greatest destroyers of civilization and human life

I didn't say 'civilization and human life' you ****ing retard.

You think that civilization and human life can live without nature.

You American retards are in for a real big surprise real soon now.


My my, it is obvious when you know you've been bested.

Science isn't a competition, retard.

Ok, I'll play one more round. You say your metric isn't the destruction
of human life and civilization, but rather the destruction of nature.

How can one destroy a cosmos and its physics?

You are somewhat narrow minded. Nature is far more than life on Earth.

Fine. Unquestionably the atheistic Soviet and Maoist governments

Feeeeeeeeeeeeeble minded too.

Nature doesn't give a **** about your idiotic political machinations.

kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jun 28, 2:41 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html

Enjoy your rapture, retards.

Again, this has exactly zilch to do with space policy, space history,
or the environment. If you ever wondered why people don't seem to
like you, the fact that you're spamming irrelevant content might have
something to do with it.

Then put kT into your killfile you little twerp.

Religion is the greatest threat to life on the planet Earth, and
thus by default, the exploration and colonization of space. That
certainly IS relevant to sci.*.

Really?? Even as an agnostic I don't believe that. Look at the 20th
century. The greatest destroyers of civilization and human life

I didn't say 'civilization and human life' you ****ing retard.

You think that civilization and human life can live without nature.

You American retards are in for a real big surprise real soon now.


My my, it is obvious when you know you've been bested.

Science isn't a competition, retard.

Ok, I'll play one more round. You say your metric isn't the
destruction of human life and civilization, but rather the destruction
of nature.

How can one destroy a cosmos and its physics?

You are somewhat narrow minded. Nature is far more than life on Earth.

Fine. Unquestionably the atheistic Soviet and Maoist governments

Feeeeeeeeeeeeeble minded too.

Nature doesn't give a **** about your idiotic political machinations.

Actually, as far as I can tell "nature" isn't a conscious entity that
can or can not "give a ****" about anything. Maybe you have data that
says otherwise. If not, you are anthropomorphizing - which is a most
unscientific thing to do.

Tell me kt, what does a person like you do to earn a living? Why do I
get the feeling that you're one of those people living on the dole?

I notice that your favorite word (at least when you aren't talking about
male genitalia) seems to be "retard". Projection perhaps?

Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:
Damien Valentine wrote:
On Jun 28, 2:41 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html

Enjoy your rapture, retards.

Again, this has exactly zilch to do with space policy, space
history,
or the environment. If you ever wondered why people don't seem to
like you, the fact that you're spamming irrelevant content might
have
something to do with it.

Then put kT into your killfile you little twerp.

Religion is the greatest threat to life on the planet Earth, and
thus by default, the exploration and colonization of space. That
certainly IS relevant to sci.*.

Really?? Even as an agnostic I don't believe that. Look at the
20th century. The greatest destroyers of civilization and human life

I didn't say 'civilization and human life' you ****ing retard.

You think that civilization and human life can live without nature.

You American retards are in for a real big surprise real soon now.


My my, it is obvious when you know you've been bested.

Science isn't a competition, retard.

Ok, I'll play one more round. You say your metric isn't the
destruction of human life and civilization, but rather the
destruction of nature.

How can one destroy a cosmos and its physics?

You are somewhat narrow minded. Nature is far more than life on Earth.

Fine. Unquestionably the atheistic Soviet and Maoist governments

Feeeeeeeeeeeeeble minded too.

Nature doesn't give a **** about your idiotic political machinations.

Actually, as far as I can tell "nature" isn't a conscious entity that
can or can not "give a ****" about anything.

I am of nature.

Maybe you have data that
says otherwise. If not, you are anthropomorphizing - which is a most
unscientific thing to do.

Life is weird like that.

Tell me kt, what does a person like you do to earn a living?

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/

Why do I
get the feeling that you're one of those people living on the dole?

Nature gives me what I need.

You take what you want.

kT wrote:


Tell me kt, what does a person like you do to earn a living?

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/

So, how is that government grant thing going? With the way the federal
government is slinging around taxpayer funds with the discretion of a
drunken sailor on shore leave, if you can't get government support for
your proposal now it *really* must be hare brained.


Why do I get the feeling that you're one of those people living on the
dole?

Nature gives me what I need.

You take what you want.

Sounds like a big affirmative to me.

Steve Dallas wrote:
kT wrote:


Tell me kt, what does a person like you do to earn a living?

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/

So, how is that government grant thing going?

I wouldn't know, I'm self funded.

With the way the federal
government is slinging around taxpayer funds with the discretion of a
drunken sailor on shore leave, if you can't get government support for
your proposal now it *really* must be hare brained.

So you say. All I posted was a link, to a comic strip cartoon.

For some reason you are offended by atheism and freedom.

You are very easily offended by fiction and reality.

You have very little confidence in your beliefs.

Why do I get the feeling that you're one of those people living on
the dole?

Nature gives me what I need.

You take what you want.

Sounds like a big affirmative to me.

It wasn't a question.

Fred J. McCall wrote in
:

Jim Davis wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: He doesn't realize that atheism is just another religion...
:
:Oh, no. Atheism (and theism for that matter) is simply a description
f what a person believes.
:

Well, yes. Atheism is a religion with sects, just like any other
religion.


So why don't atheists get religious tax exemptions?