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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest
video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. |
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Rube Goldberg - NASA's New Chief Engineer
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Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Introducing Rube Goldberg! NASA's new administrator and chief engineer. |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
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... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. That's gotta help with costs. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message ... "M" wrote in message ... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. That's gotta help with costs. It helps the NASA budget if NASA can talk the Navy into footing the bill for the recovery missions. If the Navy balks at footing the bill, can you imagine the potential cost to NASA for Orion recovery? Perhaps the SRB recovery ships could be used for this, but that only works if NASA plans on splashdowns near the east Florida coast. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? Ares I is an over cost, under-performing dog which needs put out of its misery. Once Ares I is dead, NASA should be informed that a shuttle/saturn derived launch vehicle is simply not politically acceptable. Time to switch to buying launches from US launch providers. Payload not big enough for a throw-away (Apollo) approach? then maybe it's time NASA invest in developing the technologies for LEO fuel depots. This would be a breakthrough space technology and would put the US ahead of the rest of the world. Jeff -- "Many things that were acceptable in 1958 are no longer acceptable today. My own standards have changed too." -- Freeman Dyson |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
On Dec 24, 10:38*am, "Jeff Findley"
wrote: "Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in ... "M" wrote in message .... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. *So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. *That's gotta help with costs. It helps the NASA budget if NASA can talk the Navy into footing the bill for the recovery missions. *If the Navy balks at footing the bill, can you imagine the potential cost to NASA for Orion recovery? *Perhaps the SRB recovery ships could be used for this, but that only works if NASA plans on splashdowns near the east Florida coast. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? Ares I is an over cost, under-performing dog which needs put out of its misery. *Once Ares I is dead, NASA should be informed that a shuttle/saturn derived launch vehicle is simply not politically acceptable. *Time to switch to buying launches from US launch providers. Payload not big enough for a throw-away (Apollo) approach? *then maybe it's time NASA invest in developing the technologies for LEO fuel depots. *This would be a breakthrough space technology and would put the US ahead of the rest of the world. Jeff -- "Many things that were acceptable in 1958 are no longer acceptable today. My own standards have changed too." *-- Freeman Dyson With Space station missions in high inclination orbits it would limit the Orion spacecraft to land close to the Cape only on certain orbits. I really doubt if the capsule will have the cross range capability of the Space Shuttle. For returns form lunar missions it could be a bit more flexible. |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
On Dec 23, 8:30*pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote: "M" wrote in message ... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. *So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. *That's gotta help with costs. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. Well, at least it has an survivable abort capability throughout its entire flight regime.... |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
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... On Dec 23, 8:30 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: "M" wrote in message ... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. That's gotta help with costs. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. Well, at least it has an survivable abort capability throughout its entire flight regime.... We'll see. My understanding is there's still some question on that. Of course keep in mind that when an SRB DOES fail, it's generally pretty catastrophic. -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |
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NASA Constellation video now shows Ocean Splashdown
"Jeff Findley" wrote in message
... "Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote in message ... "M" wrote in message ... Looks like the airbag system for landing on land is out, the latest video shows an expensive Apollo-style splashdown. Also the Altair ascent stage looks mighty smaller as they leave the airlock behind when they take off from the lunar surface. Oh goodie. So now we have to task Naval resources to recover this wonderful capsule. That's gotta help with costs. It helps the NASA budget if NASA can talk the Navy into footing the bill for the recovery missions. Good luck with that one. I can't see any reason the Navy would do that. Especially with their assets being used for other missions right now. I highly doubt they'd want to task a CBG to the mission and their LHDs, while perhaps ideal, I'm sure are going to be busy with things like the Somali pirates and other actions. If the Navy balks at footing the bill, can you imagine the potential cost to NASA for Orion recovery? Perhaps the SRB recovery ships could be used for this, but that only works if NASA plans on splashdowns near the east Florida coast. Which might make sense, but I'm not sure they're really suited for that. What's the benefit of Ares I over Shuttle again? Ares I is an over cost, under-performing dog which needs put out of its misery. Once Ares I is dead, NASA should be informed that a shuttle/saturn derived launch vehicle is simply not politically acceptable. Time to switch to buying launches from US launch providers. Agreed. Payload not big enough for a throw-away (Apollo) approach? then maybe it's time NASA invest in developing the technologies for LEO fuel depots. This would be a breakthrough space technology and would put the US ahead of the rest of the world. Jeff -- "Many things that were acceptable in 1958 are no longer acceptable today. My own standards have changed too." -- Freeman Dyson -- Greg Moore Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC. |
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