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MSL delayed till 2011
.....as was suspected in recent weeks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. Pat |
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MSL delayed till 2011
On Dec 4, 11:27 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
....as was suspected in recent weeks:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. Pat With that nifty plank of Mars wood setting in plain sight, as such sort of changes most everything, doesn't it. An old railway sleeper found on Mars? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a5bc47d?hl=en# On Dec 2, 3:21 am, Neil Gerace wrote: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...l_L-B118R1.jpg Opportunity / Sol 115, May 25, 2004 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...nity_n115.html Makes this nifty plank of Mars wood from a fairly old archived image kind of weird. Wonder why it was intentionally withheld for so many years. Apparently the faith-based rusemasters that are about to lose their public funded jobs are starting to uncontrollably sweat. Perhaps keeping our public media focus on Mars instead of Venus is clearly their priority number one. - That's certainly a good one, as though looking kind of "old railway sleeper" artificial. (? apparently Mars once had trees to make rail ties?) Seems they ran directly over the top of it, so it's not such a large rail sleeper/tie as you'd think. However, small Mars folks shouldn't have needed much bigger than quarter-scale. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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MSL delayed till 2011
On Dec 4, 1:15 pm, Hi Pat! wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:54 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote: This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. ...But I think it's better off that they get the thing right before they come up with another MPL or Beaglesplat. OM That's true enough, especially since we really do not have a viable fly-by-rocket lander of what it's going to take in order to avoid the direct hard landing that has no last second hope of avoiding a bad/ fatal kind of landing. In other words, this spendy mission needs at least a few seconds worth of fly-by-rocket hang time before dropping onto the deck. ~ BG |
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MSL delayed till 2011
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Dec 4, 11:27 am, Pat Flannery wrote: ....as was suspected in recent weeks:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. Pat With that nifty plank of Mars wood setting in plain sight, as such sort of changes most everything, doesn't it. An old railway sleeper found on Mars? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...a5bc47d?hl=en# ...................... That's nothing. Here's the secret entrance to Mars Underground! http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P2365L7M1.HTML |
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MSL delayed till 2011
Hi Pat! wrote in :
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:54 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote: This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. ...But I think it's better off that they get the thing right before they come up with another MPL or Beaglesplat. I'm getting real pessimistic about living long enough to see a manned Mars landing. --Damon |
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MSL delayed till 2011
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:56:41 -0600, in a place far, far away, Damon
Hill made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Hi Pat! wrote in : On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:54 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote: This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. ...But I think it's better off that they get the thing right before they come up with another MPL or Beaglesplat. I'm getting real pessimistic about living long enough to see a manned Mars landing. That only means that you're pessimistic about living long. |
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MSL delayed till 2011
"Pat Flannery" wrote in message telephone... ....as was suspected in recent weeks: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. No surprise. Other (smaller) programs will likely suffer because of this. After all, the time and money for the overruns has to come from *somewhere*. Jeff -- beb - To paraphrase Stephen Colbert, reality has an anti-Ares I bias. |
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MSL delayed till 2011
Damon Hill wrote:
Hi Pat! wrote in : On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:54 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote: This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. ...But I think it's better off that they get the thing right before they come up with another MPL or Beaglesplat. I'm getting real pessimistic about living long enough to see a manned Mars landing. Well, you just wasted another five years and another $20 billion dollars pursuing another 'Constellation' pipe dream, which rightly can't pass a simple engineering **** test and should have never left the damn napkin. Doing **** like that every five years isn't going to deliver your goals. |
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MSL delayed till 2011
On Dec 4, 2:27*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
....as was suspected in recent weeks:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. Pat Another way to look at it is to not waste the money and work invested in it already, and to take it slow to make sure that the thing will work as advertised. They only have one spacecraft and it must not fail. Plus it keeps the spacecraft engineers at JPL employed. |
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MSL delayed till 2011
On Dec 4, 4:00 pm, "jonathan" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Dec 4, 11:27 am, Pat Flannery wrote: ....as was suspected in recent weeks:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7765818.stm This will further drive up the costs of the already way-over-budget program. Pat With that nifty plank of Mars wood setting in plain sight, as such sort of changes most everything, doesn't it. An old railway sleeper found on Mars? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s..._frm/thread/fd... ..................... That's nothing. Here's the secret entrance to Mars Underground! http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...5468289EFF65C3... Perhaps these two rather weird/artificial looking items are related. ~ BG |
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