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  #521  
Old December 16th 06, 01:45 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
John Griffin
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"Brad Guth" wrote:

"tomcat" wrote in message
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Well, now the Borg are trying to hide what Einstein knew and
stated many years ago, viz., E = M C ^2 and nothing can
travel faster than light in a vacuum. This, by itself,
indicates that energy is light is mass. How else could
Einstein have known that nothing travels faster than light?
He could only know this if light were unique in some way.
But what way? Well, light is the only real substance in the
Universe so light can't go faster than itself.


Physical travel at or faster than 'c' is in fact limited
because of such having to involve mass. You simply would not
want to run yourself into another atom if merging at 'c', much
less if the combined head on impact is 2X 'c'.


Can you debunk the physicists' explanation of why that can't
happen?

This universe started when a scientist in the preceding universe
managed to get a proton and an antiproton moving at the speed of
light in opposite directions in separate accelerators and then
let them loose to collide head-on. He was expecting a nobel
prize or something for his work, which was going to explain the
big bang before the most recent one.

However,
information can and has in fact traveled at FTL velocity.


Can you be a bit more specific? Are you referring to that story
about the particle or photon that seemed to come out the other
end of a pipe instantly when one hit the other end? Are you
talking about "spooky action at a distance," as though you've
decided just this once to respect Albert Einstein's "old
testament incest-cloned borg buttology"?

Unfortunately, anything FTL is kept all taboo/nondisclosure,
as X-rated physics because it's involving the truth and
nothing but the truth.


Does this mean you think the scientists are protecting you
because they know that truth pains you?

Of course, you'll obviously believe in anything our Old
Testament controlled government prints on their used toilet
paper, and especially as infomercial hyped to death like their
NASA/Apollo crapolla that you and most other village idiot
fools 100% believe in. -
Brad Guth


Take pride in the fact that your arguments for your vagaries of
thought and against the present state of human knowledge are
amusing.

By the way, nothing shows up in a photograph until enough photons
hit the film, and nothing shows up after too many hit it. This
means that you couldn't photograph Venus, for example, over a
sunlit moonscape. As soon as you learn that, every human and
every borg will know it.




  #522  
Old December 16th 06, 01:47 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
John Griffin
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"Brad Guth" wrote:

"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4
The expression you need to incorporate into your goofy
nonsense is m=M/(1-v^2/c^2), where M is the rest mass and m is
the relativistic mass. Of course this says the mass of your
imaginary non-massless photon is infinite, since v=c...heh!
MC^2 is the energy released by particle interactions where the
new stuff has less mass than the old stuff.


Taking out your intentional flatulence of naysay physics, and
lo and behold we're more than half way there, wouldn't you
say?


I'm pretty sure I wouldn't say whatever you're trying to say.
This is getting to be a regular occurrence.

Obviously our "John Griffin" got himself an official MIB/spook
browny point for having contributed that one.


Do I get a ****in' engraved plaque or something?

P.S. Did you want to disagree with what I said?
  #523  
Old December 16th 06, 02:21 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
John Griffin
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"Brad Guth" wrote:

"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4

Ask me if I know where non sequiturs and incoherent verbal
gas jets come from.


For spewing infomercial jewspeak, you're certainly damn good
at it.


I could probably do it in my sleep just as well. What is it?

I hate infomercials and everything that looks like them. Someday
I'd like to hear "HI! BILLY MAYS HERE FOR THE AMAAAAAZINGPOW
POW POW"

I have no idea how to do "jewspeak," but I once learned to play
the violin and solve some simple types of differential equations
at the same time.


(((i bet he believes that)))
  #524  
Old December 16th 06, 03:12 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks
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tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
"tomcat" wrote in message
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Well, now the Borg are trying to hide what Einstein knew and stated
many years ago, viz., E = M C ^2 and nothing can travel faster than
light in a vacuum. This, by itself, indicates that energy is light is
mass. How else could Einstein have known that nothing travels faster
than light? He could only know this if light were unique in some way.
But what way? Well, light is the only real substance in the Universe
so light can't go faster than itself.


Physical travel at or faster than 'c' is in fact limited because of such
having to involve mass. You simply would not want to run yourself into
another atom if merging at 'c', much less if the combined head on impact
is 2X 'c'. However, information can and has in fact traveled at FTL
velocity.

Unfortunately, anything FTL is kept all taboo/nondisclosure, as X-rated
physics because it's involving the truth and nothing but the truth.

Of course, you'll obviously believe in anything our Old Testament
controlled government prints on their used toilet paper, and especially
as infomercial hyped to death like their NASA/Apollo crapolla that you
and most other village idiot fools 100% believe in.
-
Brad Guth


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Photons have mass or they couldn't be a particle. It is my view that
photons are -- as all else in the Universe -- snarls, eddies,
perturbances, in the EM probability waves, waves that travel at the
speed of light because they are light. This explains why everything
squirts photons when squeezed.


Hahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahah

This is brilliant, even better than your little Martians, tomkitty.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The earth was without form, and void; and darkeness was on the face of
the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the
waters.

Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good, and God divided the light from
the darkness. God called the light Day and the darkness He called
Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day."

So here the Bible states that there is day and night, light and
non-light. Modern physics tells us that probability waves exist until
observed and when 'observed' they become particles, which are but
snarls, eddies, perturbances of light. Science says, then, that there
is light and observation of that light.

This, in turn, fits Ontology in Metaphysics which denotes a tripartite
relation of observed, observer, and the relation of the observed to the
observer, viz., 'observation'. Which, in turn, fits the Holy Trinity
of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Or, the scientific Obeserver
observing the observed.


tomkitty has fallen off the edge and landed in a big pool of mystical
physics mud.


tomcat


In case the audience [tina] has forgotten, tomkitty and GuthBall are up
for a joint VVFWS for their profound deduction that massless photons do
indeed have mass, and that they are the Legos for everything. Just
squeeze an atom like a lemon and you get photon juice!
  #525  
Old December 16th 06, 03:13 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell
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John Griffin wrote:

"Brad Guth" wrote:

"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4
The expression you need to incorporate into your goofy
nonsense is m=M/(1-v^2/c^2), where M is the rest mass and m is
the relativistic mass. Of course this says the mass of your
imaginary non-massless photon is infinite, since v=c...heh!
MC^2 is the energy released by particle interactions where the
new stuff has less mass than the old stuff.


Taking out your intentional flatulence of naysay physics, and
lo and behold we're more than half way there, wouldn't you
say?


I'm pretty sure I wouldn't say whatever you're trying to say.
This is getting to be a regular occurrence.

Obviously our "John Griffin" got himself an official MIB/spook
browny point for having contributed that one.


Do I get a ****in' engraved plaque or something?

P.S. Did you want to disagree with what I said?


Actually, that was Brad's way of saying that he has no idea or clue
what you posted, John.
  #526  
Old December 16th 06, 03:28 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks
Art Deco[_5_]
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John Griffin wrote:

"Brad Guth" wrote:

"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4

Ask me if I know where non sequiturs and incoherent verbal
gas jets come from.


For spewing infomercial jewspeak, you're certainly damn good
at it.


I could probably do it in my sleep just as well. What is it?

I hate infomercials and everything that looks like them. Someday
I'd like to hear "HI! BILLY MAYS HERE FOR THE AMAAAAAZINGPOW
POW POW"

I have no idea how to do "jewspeak," but I once learned to play
the violin and solve some simple types of differential equations
at the same time.


Do you think Brad knows what a boundary condition is?


(((i bet he believes that)))


Bs pbhefr.
  #527  
Old December 16th 06, 04:22 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
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"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"Brad Guth" wrote:

"tomcat" wrote in message
ups.com

tomcat: The Sun gives off 'sunlight' and we use this to
see objects.


At best, we can only see 0.0001% of the full spectrum that
relates to said photons. The unfiltered Kodak eye can see and
thereby records roughly half again as much spectrum as the
human eye.

But if this isn't enough then check this out:


Evidence for direct photons from quarks in electron-positron
annihilation
Journal Zeitschrift für Physik C Particles and Fields
Publisher Springer Berlin / Heidelberg
ISSN 0170-9739 (Print) 1431-5858 (Online)
Subject Engineering and Physics and Astronomy
Issue Volume 41, Number 3 / September, 1988
DOI 10.1007/BF01585622
Pages 385-393
Online Date Monday, May 16, 2005


As per usual, about all that folks like yourself are ever
going to get in return from these infomercial spewing
rusemasters (such as John Griffin and especially Art Deco) is
more of the very same gauntlet of their Old Testament of
mainstream status quo flak, and to think it's all derived from
those of your very own kind, as in having one and the very
same mindset as for having insisted that we have walked
moonsuit butt-naked on the moon (where the regular laws of
physics simply do not apply).

And once again here you are, tomcat, without so much as an
honest clue as to how terribly snookered and summarily
dumbfounded you've been from the very get go.

BTW; I happen to think you're on the right set of tracks,
though having been somewhat dumbfounded past the point of no
return. -
Brad Guth


Damn, boy, do you realize what you just said? I'll tell you.
You said "yap yap yap yap yap yap yap." Only this and nothing
more.


The transporter took a phaser hit just as Johnboi was last being
reassembled.


  #528  
Old December 16th 06, 04:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
Pat Flannery
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John Griffin wrote:


I have no idea how to do "jewspeak," but I once learned to play
the violin and solve some simple types of differential equations
at the same time.



Two Irishmen - a fight.
Two Germans - an invasion.
Two Russians - a bribe.
Two Englishmen - a snub.
Two Frenchmen - a hangover.
Two Italians - a rub-out.
Two Israelis - a political/theological argument. :-)

Pat
  #529  
Old December 16th 06, 12:05 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
Brad Guth[_2_]
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"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4

By the way, nothing shows up in a photograph until enough photons
hit the film, and nothing shows up after too many hit it. This
means that you couldn't photograph Venus, for example, over a
sunlit moonscape. As soon as you learn that, every human and
every borg will know it.


Liar, as in LLPOF, whereas I as well as Kodak and any other half assed
moron with access to a 3D interactive simulator and the hard replicated
scientific evidence of film can damn well prove it, at least a million
fold over and over if you'd care to argure this to your sorry death.

Why are you and others of your kind being such incest cloned pagan
born-again liars?

"Notroll2006" wrote in message

"John Griffin"
Damn, boy, do you realize what you just said? I'll tell you.
You said "yap yap yap yap yap yap yap." Only this and nothing
more.


The transporter took a phaser hit just as Johnboi was last being
reassembled.


There's not much question, Old Testament thumping rusemasters of this
anti-think-tank of Usenet naysayism are exactly what they are, and it
could only get worse off if their boss/Hitler were still in charge,
although their pagan born-again and resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush)
seems to be doing a damn fine job.
-
Brad Guth


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  #530  
Old December 16th 06, 12:09 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.astro,rec.org.mensa
Brad Guth[_2_]
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Default mass is light.

I see that our resident LLPOF rusemaster "John Griffin" as a spook/mole
insider is into blocking any reply to his reply as of lately. I guess
that's the best of what these Old Testament thumping farts do these
days.

"John Griffin" wrote in message
. 1.4

By the way, nothing shows up in a photograph until enough photons
hit the film, and nothing shows up after too many hit it. This
means that you couldn't photograph Venus, for example, over a
sunlit moonscape. As soon as you learn that, every human and
every borg will know it.


Liar, as in LLPOF, whereas I as well as Kodak and any other half assed
moron with access to a 3D interactive simulator and the hard replicated
scientific evidence of film can damn well prove it, at least a million
fold over and over if you'd care to argure this to your sorry death.

Why are you and others of your kind being such incest cloned pagan
born-again liars?

"Notroll2006" wrote in message

"John Griffin"
Damn, boy, do you realize what you just said? I'll tell you.
You said "yap yap yap yap yap yap yap." Only this and nothing
more.


The transporter took a phaser hit just as Johnboi was last being
reassembled.


There's not much question, Old Testament thumping rusemasters of this
anti-think-tank of Usenet naysayism are exactly what they are, and it
could only get worse off if their boss/Hitler were still in charge,
although their pagan born-again and resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush)
seems to be doing a damn fine job.
-
Brad Guth


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