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Old December 10th 04, 05:46 PM
Syke
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Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at 14.99. Does anyone have any idea
what they're really like? Are the lenses glass or plastic? My local store
say customers are not supposed to open boxes to look at goods. Is this the
same country-wide? Their returns policy is quaint too; you have to apply to
head office, in writing, and they will consider it, then decide!



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Old December 10th 04, 05:49 PM
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:19 +0000, Syke wrote:

Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at 14.99. Does anyone have any idea
what they're really like?


Are you having a laugh?
For 14.99, what do you think they are like?
They probably cost 5 or less to make,so you can imagine, their quality
will only be slightly better than a milk bottle base.
Alan.

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Old December 10th 04, 07:11 PM
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On or about 2004-12-10,
A.Lee illuminated us with:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:46:19 +0000, Syke wrote:

Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at 14.99. Does anyone have any idea
what they're really like?


Are you having a laugh?
For 14.99, what do you think they are like?
They probably cost 5 or less to make,so you can imagine, their quality
will only be slightly better than a milk bottle base.


Seems reasonable:
http://www.lidl.co.uk/gb/index.nsf/p..._24_Binoculars

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Old December 10th 04, 08:10 PM
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I got from Ebay a new pair of those cheap "Breaker" 13x70 binoculars not
that long ago. They have those bright "ruby-coated" objectives.

They're pretty crap. But they were cheap. Can't remember but ISTR I
paid about forty-something for them.

I wouldn't buy another pair though. But hey, I didn't expect great things
so I wasn't that disappointed, and they do kinda work. Kinda.


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Old December 11th 04, 06:54 AM
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Syke wrote:
Lidl have binoculars from Monday next at 14.99.


These are zoom binoculars. There is no such thing as a good zoom
binocular for astronomy (or anything else, for that matter). There is a
very good reason that you don't find zoom binoculars with the names
Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski on them.

Not only must the eyepieces zoom at as-near-as-dammit exactly the same
rate (which means absolutely no perceptible rocking of the bridge), but
you are trying to make a system with moveable optical elements that must
hold collimation, ideally to about an arcminute where step (aka
dipvergence, aka supravergence) is concerned if one is approaching 24;
for the 125 that I have seen advertised for some zoom binoculars, this
translates to better than 15 arcsec! Now, consider how many good quality
centre-focus 24 binoculars you know of -- I don't know of any, and I am
sure that part of the reason must be that it would be a feat of
technological brilliance (not to say expense!) to bridge two eyepieces
in such a way that they maintain collimation to within the tolerances
that are required. (And remember that it is unlikely that they will have
a "base tolerance" of zero error.)

Does this help?

Best,
Stephen

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Old December 11th 04, 08:44 AM
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I'm getting completely fed up with buying 7 & 10 x 50 Japanese binos
for under a tenner in the charity shops and flea markets.
I paid a bit more for the pair of 8 x 56 rubber-armoured german
roof-prism jobs. But not much more.
Saw a pair of armoured roof-prism 7 x 42 Zeiss Dialyts the other day. I
left them for someone who needed them more than me. (and hopefully knew
how to pronounce the name properly) ;-)

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Old December 11th 04, 12:04 PM
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:54:10 +0000, Stephen Tonkin ) said:
in such a way that they maintain collimation to within the tolerances
that are required. (And remember that it is unlikely that they will have
a "base tolerance" of zero error.)

Does this help?


I know you're the expert and I'm not, but I did have a cheap pair of 7-21x
42s that were quite useable for many years for very basic astro purposes.

Easy enough to use the eyepiece diopter correction to correct for any
inherent focus differences between the eyepieces. Eventually fell out of
alignment (fifteen years later) and are now a zoom-lens for my camera.

Personally, I'm missing them now; a pair of rough & ready bins to keep in
the car for when I'd otherwise be without a pair.

Yes, they're not going to be in the same league as proper pair of fixed
10x50s, but I wouldn't be surprised if they'd still make Pleiades look
pretty.

I have to say that, for 15quid, I'd be tempted to get them as a second
'emergency' pair.

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Old December 11th 04, 12:12 PM
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7dayshop's little porro (I assume) jobs at 7x and 10x are very handy under a
tenner. Only 21mm, though, so no light grasp.
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I'm getting completely fed up with buying 7 & 10 x 50 Japanese binos
for under a tenner in the charity shops and flea markets.
I paid a bit more for the pair of 8 x 56 rubber-armoured german
roof-prism jobs. But not much more.
Saw a pair of armoured roof-prism 7 x 42 Zeiss Dialyts the other day. I
left them for someone who needed them more than me. (and hopefully knew
how to pronounce the name properly) ;-)

Chris.B



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Old December 11th 04, 03:58 PM
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these look nice
http://www.lidl.co.uk/gb/index.nsf/p...ian_Chocolates


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Old December 11th 04, 06:02 PM
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Julie Brandon wrote:
I know you're the expert and I'm not,


I'm not an expert, Julie, merely an informed user.

Best,
Stephen

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