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Old December 6th 06, 02:18 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"jem" wrote in message
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kenseto wrote:

jem wrote:

kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving wrt
the detector?



Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector", when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative motion"?


OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.


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Old December 6th 06, 02:25 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
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kenseto wrote:


jem wrote:


kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving wrt
the detector?


Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector", when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative motion"?



OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?
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Old December 6th 06, 02:30 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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jem wrote:

kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
...

kenseto wrote:


jem wrote:


kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving wrt
the detector?



Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector", when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative motion"?




OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?


For that matter how can "the light rauys from all directions" be in the
same state of motion?
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Old December 6th 06, 03:06 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"jem" wrote in message
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jem wrote:

kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
...

kenseto wrote:


jem wrote:


kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving

wrt
the detector?



Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector",

when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative

motion"?



OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from

all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?


For that matter how can "the light rauys from all directions" be in the
same state of motion?


Sigh....because they have the same relative motion wrt the DETECTOR.


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Old December 6th 06, 03:07 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"jem" wrote in message
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kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
...

kenseto wrote:


jem wrote:


kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving wrt
the detector?


Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector", when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative motion"?



OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from

all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?


Sigh....notice that in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.


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Old December 6th 06, 06:42 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
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kenseto wrote:

OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from

all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.




Isotropy (the opposite of anisotropy) is the property of being

independent
of direction. The speed of light c, is constant independent of

direction.
Relative motion between light sources and detector (observer) shows up

as
Doppler Effect.
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...lerEffect.html


****ing idiot runt.


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Old December 6th 06, 07:57 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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In article ,
"kenseto" wrote:


"Sam Wormley" wrote in message
news:ddDdh.305972$1i1.186344@attbi_s72...
kenseto wrote:

OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from

all
directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.




Isotropy (the opposite of anisotropy) is the property of being

independent
of direction. The speed of light c, is constant independent of

direction.
Relative motion between light sources and detector (observer) shows up

as
Doppler Effect.
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...lerEffect.html


****ing idiot runt.


I think you got him too Sam ;-)

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Old December 6th 06, 07:58 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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In article kDEdh.261450$FQ1.121829@attbi_s71,
Sam Wormley wrote:

Seriously Seto, Isotropy (the opposite of anisotropy) is the property
of being independent of direction. The speed of light c, is constant
independent of direction. Relative motion between light sources and
detector (observer) shows up as Doppler Effect.
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/phys...lerEffect.html

Do you not understand the concepts of isotropy and/or Doppler shift,
Seto?


Rhetorical question, Sam?

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Old December 7th 06, 01:33 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
...

kenseto wrote:


"jem" wrote in message
...


kenseto wrote:



jem wrote:



kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving wrt
the detector?


Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector", when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative motion"?


OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from


all

directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?



Sigh....notice that in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



Just what do you think it means for two things to "share the same state
of relative motion"? Don't just repeat your MMX light ray mantra -
specify the criteria that determine whether *any* two things share the
same motion.



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Old December 7th 06, 02:20 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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"jem" wrote in message
...
kenseto wrote:

"jem" wrote in message
...

kenseto wrote:


"jem" wrote in message
...


kenseto wrote:



jem wrote:



kenseto wrote:
How can they be "arriving" at the detector when they're not moving

wrt
the detector?


Sigh....isotropy means that the light rays are moving toward the
detector at the same speed in all directions.


And how is it that "the light rays are moving toward the detector",

when
"the detector and the light rays are not in a state of relative

motion"?


OK....maybe I should say that isotropy means that the light rays from


all

directions are in the same state of relative motion wrt the detector.



If they're in the "same state of motion", how does one move towards the
other?



Sigh....notice that in the same state of relative motion wrt the

detector.



Just what do you think it means for two things to "share the same state
of relative motion"? Don't just repeat your MMX light ray mantra -
specify the criteria that determine whether *any* two things share the
same motion.


Sigh....share the same relative motion as determined by the DETECTOR.



 




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