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Cooled CCD cameras - recommendations?
I am interested in obtaining a color cooled CCD camera such as those
used in high level astrophotography. I would like to have input from any users on some questions I have: Software - Live imaging? Low light focusing? "white balance" issues? Ease of export of the image to an IP software package? Camera - IR blocking filter? Mounting methods? Spectral response? My interest is in adapting such a camera to very low light imaging of luminescent images with specific bandpass filters extending into the NIR. If any users of these cameras would be kind enough to help me out I would be appreciative. Thanks. Henry Barwood |
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Henry,
If you are going to be using bandpass filters, you probably want a monochrome camera rather than a colour camera. There are a number of companies (SBIG, FLI, Apogee) that make cameras for long exposures. There are also companies that make video rate and faster cameras with similar CCD sensors. www.sbig.com www.fli-cam.com www.ccd.com www.ptgrey.com www.1394imaging.com IR blocking filters are standard on most webcams and consumer digital cameras, but astronomical cameras typically do not have an IR blocking filters. Focusing is always an issue with low light levels - I have to find a star and focus at maybe 1 frame per second, and then take a long exposure of whatever nebula, galaxy I'm going for. 'Real-time' focusing doesn't happen at low light levels. Take a look for "Handbook of CCD Astronomy" by Steve Howell for a good technical overview on faint object imaging. Should be able to get it used from Powell's Books for maybe $15. It's an astronomy book, but it covers everything you'll run into with low light imaging. www.powells.com Many cameras ship with basic software. But once you figure out what you're doing, you'll likely want something with more power and options. CCD Soft and Maxim DL are aimed at astrophotography. Quantum Image is more general and is very powerful. www.bisque.com www.cyanogen.com www.quantimage.com Eric. wrote: I am interested in obtaining a color cooled CCD camera such as those used in high level astrophotography. I would like to have input from any users on some questions I have: Software - Live imaging? Low light focusing? "white balance" issues? Ease of export of the image to an IP software package? Camera - IR blocking filter? Mounting methods? Spectral response? My interest is in adapting such a camera to very low light imaging of luminescent images with specific bandpass filters extending into the NIR. If any users of these cameras would be kind enough to help me out I would be appreciative. Thanks. Henry Barwood |
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for your insightful comments. Let me clarify a bit. I posed the question to astronomers, but my actual use in in microscopy. I do a lot of cathodoluminescence microscopy. I have a very old Vicam that I removed the IR blocking filter from. Using this very low resolution, non-cooled camera, I opened up a world of IR imaging that shows details simply not present in visible images. I am trying to find a suitable camera to conduct more rigorous examination of my samples, but have a problem. Cameras for low light (fluorescence) microscopy are 2-3 orders of magnitude beyond my budget. Straining all my resources, I probably can afford an astrocam. Since I build all my microscopes and instruments out of salvaged or donated equipment (or stuff I buy off of E-bay!), I would adapt the camera myself if it is suitably configured to begin with. In CL work, color (even false-color) is a key component of recognition of different luminescent substances. Henry |
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Hi Eric,
I am making cathodoluminescent images of petrographic thin sections of rocks, refractories, fossils, etc. I use a vacuum stage with a cold cathode electron gun called a Luminoscope. Many common minerals and compounds luminesce under electron bombardment. Computer monitors and television screens (well, at least the non-liquid crystal ones!) generate an image using cathodoluminescent phosphors. Essentially no work has been done on NIR luminescence. Henry |
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So it's like an electron microscope - scan the target with an electron
beam, but I don't measure the backscattered electrons, I image the luminescence through a window in the side of the vacuum chamber ? So you could get bandpas filters or use a spectrograph to look for very specific items in the rock. What kind of electron energy are you using ? Probably only need something around 100 eV ? Or do you vary the incoming energy ? Eric. wrote: Hi Eric, I am making cathodoluminescent images of petrographic thin sections of rocks, refractories, fossils, etc. I use a vacuum stage with a cold cathode electron gun called a Luminoscope. Many common minerals and compounds luminesce under electron bombardment. Computer monitors and television screens (well, at least the non-liquid crystal ones!) generate an image using cathodoluminescent phosphors. Essentially no work has been done on NIR luminescence. Henry |
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Hi Eric,
Actually, it is much less hi-tech than that. You establish a vacuum chamber at about 50 microns and then use a cold cathode to generate an electron beam at 4-20KV. The beam will make a lot of things "glow" (in living color!). Technique goes back to Crookes, but only became popular in the late 1960's when a commercial device, the Luminoscope, was marketed. I've used one for years to look at alkali syenites, carbonates, refractory materials, etc. With the development of digital imaging, a lot of new uese have cropped up! Henry |
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That sounds very interesting. Particularly the bit about fossils.
Thanks, Henry. Eric. wrote: Hi Eric, Actually, it is much less hi-tech than that. You establish a vacuum chamber at about 50 microns and then use a cold cathode to generate an electron beam at 4-20KV. The beam will make a lot of things "glow" (in living color!). Technique goes back to Crookes, but only became popular in the late 1960's when a commercial device, the Luminoscope, was marketed. I've used one for years to look at alkali syenites, carbonates, refractory materials, etc. With the development of digital imaging, a lot of new uese have cropped up! Henry |
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Henry
If you want something real cheap to play with, I'd recommend a monochrome CCTV camera using the Sony EXview HAD chip. They will see to under 0.01 lux, and mine (as an uncased PCB) cost about $80. They have quite a good near IR response. www.rfconcepts.co.uk is one supplier. (There is a mod to increase video gain - mail me if you need it). Then look for a group called QCUIAG - they specialise in getting low light images out of uncooled cameras, and some of their results are spectacular. None of this stuff will beat a cooled CCD, but then it doesn't cost the same... Good luck - oh, at 20KV I guess you get some very soft Xrays. Not sure CCDs will cope well with that - this might limit your sensitivity Sounds great fun --David wrote: Hi Eric, Actually, it is much less hi-tech than that. You establish a vacuum chamber at about 50 microns and then use a cold cathode to generate an electron beam at 4-20KV. The beam will make a lot of things "glow" (in living color!). Technique goes back to Crookes, but only became popular in the late 1960's when a commercial device, the Luminoscope, was marketed. I've used one for years to look at alkali syenites, carbonates, refractory materials, etc. With the development of digital imaging, a lot of new uese have cropped up! Henry |
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Thanks for the information. My present camera is rated at 1 lux, so
that would be two orders of magnitude better. I've visited the QCUIAG groups before and they have some excellent information. The Luminoscope is fully encased and all observation is done through a lead glass port. Henry |
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