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Military vs Civilian Orbital Laboratories, Vehicles, and Crews
On Mar 24, 2:54 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 11, 8:25 am, " wrote: 1) Some people imply that the space shuttle and its support structure (like the Manned Orbital Laboratory) was designed from its inception to accomplish military goals. 2) Since the Challenger disaster with an IUS aboard, the space shuttle has been deemed too dangerous for non-astronauts. 3) Yet military advocates don't blame the Air Force for what they consider our civilian space shuttle / space station dilemma. How is it logical for advocates of failed military orbital capabilities (manned) to denigrate our current civilian orbital capabilities? JTM For all the right sorts of technical, safety and payload reasons, as well as per reductions in global pollution per tonne placed so quickly into orbit, as such we'll need that new and greatly improved shuttle, of which this need not be of more than 50% public invested. Unfortunately, our MI5/CIA cloak and dagger aspects of the past, present and future has our village idiot butts and private parts pretty much nailed to their next available cross. Here's another somewhat polished reply, as for topic brain-food and eye-candy, whereas here's a couple of old links worth looking at, plus something of NASA's NExT that'll most likely never happen unless pigs fly and hell freezes over, not to mention those NASA/Apollo cows ever coming home. Boeing OASIS: Earth-Moon L1 Gateway Missions / Executive Summary 10/2/2001http://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/design_lib/OASISEXEC_97.pdf Clarke Station: An Artificial Gravity Space Station at the Earth-Moon L1 Pointhttp://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/reports/CB-1106/maryland01b.pdf Building an L1 Depot in Phases: Growing in step with operations on the Moon's surfacehttp://chapters.nss.org/hub/pdf%20presentations/LIphases.pdf Getting the most tonnage per any given fly-by-rocket method is by far most obtainable if such payload tonnage were intended for deployment into the moon's L1 pocket. This ML-1 location is an interactive gravity-null or quiet zone of otherwise being nearly ideal for efficiently station-keeping as much volumetric size and tonnage as you'd like. However, keeping in mind that this Earth-Moon-L1 location is also double IR toasty because, that physically dark moon once even partially solar illuminated is what reflects and/or radiates solar energy at roughly 33%~50% of the available IR spectrum. Don't kid yourself about that wide-open space between Earth and our moon, as for being the least bit cool or much less cold as reported by those NASA/ Apollo missions it is not, especially if there's multiple human bodies and loads of systems and instrumentation heat to continually get rid of, as such is not as technically easy to get rid of such heat as you'd think, especially since unlike the 50% dark time of ISS, there's not much greater than 2% dark time per any given year while situated within the moon's L1, meaning that for days on end there's none of that shade whatsoever, as well as at times getting that IR energy as derived from three directions at once. My fully tethered LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) along with its counter mass of a truly substantial space habitat that's extremely well shielded, and of its tether dipole element reaching that other habitat capable pod or module to within 2r of Earth, is far better than either of the above or that of anything NASA's NExT space station/ gateway has to offer. . - Brad Guth What's so terrible and/or horrifically insurmountable about utilizing our moon's L1 for our next space depot/gateway? (I can't think of anything that's negative, other than being hot and gamma saturated, each of which can be managed within known technology) .. - Brad Guth |
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Military vs Civilian Orbital Laboratories, Vehicles, and Crews
On Mar 14, 4:48 pm, wrote:
You are insane. Seek help. This coming from our very own stealth solar energy and green H2 provider. Very good, lord Mook. .. - Brad Guth |
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