Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.

Fr. George Coyne has been head of the Vatican observatory for 25 years
is an expert in astrophysics with an interest in the interstellar
medium, stars with extended atmospheres and Seyfert galaxies. He also
appointed himself as an expert in evolutionary biology and theology
last summer in an article for the UK's liberal Catholic magazine, The
Tablet.

Fr. Coyne was writing against Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, a principal
author of the Catholic catechism, who said that an "unplanned process
of random variation and natural selection," both important parts of
evolutionary thinking, are incompatible with Catholic belief in God's
ordering and guiding of creation.

Coyne, retiring after 25 years of service for the Vatican observatory,
said, "The classical question as to whether the human being came
about by chance, and so has no need of God, or by necessity, and so
through the action of a designer God, is no longer valid."

Schonborn had written in the New York Times that "neo-Darwinian
evolution is not compatible with Catholic doctrine."

Fr. Coyne is being replaced at the Vatican Observatory by Father Funes,
43, a native of Cordoba, Argentina.



Vatican Astronomer Contradicts Cardinal's Support of Catholic
Teaching on Evolution
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/aug/05080901.html

Visit the website of the Vatican Observatory
http://clavius.as.arizona.edu/vo/R1024/VO.html

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http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.

Fr. George Coyne has been head of the Vatican observatory for 25 years
is an expert in astrophysics with an interest in the interstellar
medium, stars with extended atmospheres and Seyfert galaxies. He also
appointed himself as an expert in evolutionary biology and theology
last summer in an article for the UK's liberal Catholic magazine, The
Tablet.

Fr. Coyne was writing against Christoph Cardinal Schonborn, a principal
author of the Catholic catechism, who said that an "unplanned process
of random variation and natural selection," both important parts of
evolutionary thinking, are incompatible with Catholic belief in God's
ordering and guiding of creation.

Coyne, retiring after 25 years of service for the Vatican observatory,
said, "The classical question as to whether the human being came
about by chance, and so has no need of God, or by necessity, and so
through the action of a designer God, is no longer valid."

Schonborn had written in the New York Times that "neo-Darwinian
evolution is not compatible with Catholic doctrine."

Fr. Coyne is being replaced at the Vatican Observatory by Father Funes,
43, a native of Cordoba, Argentina.



Vatican Astronomer Contradicts Cardinal's Support of Catholic
Teaching on Evolution
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/aug/05080901.html

Visit the website of the Vatican Observatory
http://clavius.as.arizona.edu/vo/R1024/VO.html


Galileo but not Darwin?

http://www.cas.muohio.edu/~marcumsd/...res/grehab.htm

Double-A

The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Double-A

Double-A wrote:
The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm
Here is an update on the earlier story concerning the...

" Atheist who sued priest over Jesus' reality "


See http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50890

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigi_Cascioli for further information)

Cordially,

R.

Perhaps George Coyne, as being outside the lethal range of the Pope's
stun-gun, will even go so far as to dare to appreciate upon what the
unlikely as Catholic nor Jewish Venusian environment as having been only
a touch physically hot and somewhat nasty as hell, because it's so
geothermally alive and kicking. At least there's been no other physics
nor available science proving otherwise.

Professor Grinspoon and actually many others as having a much better
grasp of the laws of physics and thereby of having an open mindset upon
planetology and of the sorts of harsh environment capable forms of other
life that could be possible, as typically these folks having less often
if ever having been formally published, haven't actually verbatim
excluded the possibility of there having been other life on Venus,
though much less having bothered as to exclude upon intelligent ETs as
making any go of it at their form of coexisting efforts.

By way of folks merely excluding whatever observationology has
uncovered, and further excluding the usage of the regular laws of
physics (AKA imposing selective or conditional physics) and of merely
excluding upon whatever else is derived from the best available science
is what makes it rather easy for most folks to exclude the notions of
other life having existed/coexisted on Venus, or for that matter upon
any other planet or moon becomes a status quo done deal of our being
entirely alone in the foreseeable universe, or at least until we've
managed to run our global warming selves out of fossil and yellowcake
fuel. Unfortunately, such multi-faced bigots-R-us says it all, and then
some.

By way of their stopping just short of directly saying it's entirely
possible for other life (especially of intelligent other life) to have
existed/coexisted is the same as folks having stopped short of saying
that Iraq doesn't actually have WMD, and just look at what an absolute
fiasco that little bit of LLPOF lack of proper disclosure has had such a
horrific impact upon real people of honest souls, and of the collateral
damage as to very real property that obviously didn't belong to us in
the first place.

"The Case for Life on Venus" is not a joke that this naysay Usenet from
such an anti-think-tank hell as having had it's say about such matters.
In fact, there couldn't be any more nunfounded aysayism unless it was
bought and paid for, of which I tend to believe it was. Although by far
the biggest infomercial-science based cesspool of bigotry on Earth is
via NASA/s own http://uplink.space.com/index.html that'll out-bigot the
Pope and Jews combined if need be.

Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer (as in gee whiz, what a
surprise)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...3b618f61cc0364
"The Jesuit priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic
understanding of God-directed creation, has been removed from his post
as head of the Vatican observatory."

"Fr. George Coyne has been head of the Vatican observatory for 25 years
is an expert in astrophysics with an interest in the interstellar
medium, stars with extended atmospheres and Seyfert galaxies. He also
appointed himself as an expert in evolutionary biology and theology last
summer in an article for the UK's liberal Catholic magazine, The
Tablet."

""Coyne, retiring after 25 years of service for the Vatican observatory,
said, "The classical question as to whether the human being came about
by chance, and so has no need of God, or by necessity, and so through
the action of a designer God, is no longer valid.""

That was obviously a really big time Pope OOPS! whereas only an honest
to God religion would have allowed such an argument to stand as is, at
least until further notice.

Obviously even our modern day Pope likes to kick a little science and
physics butt from time to time, just like all of those sorry butts they
had previously kicked to death of Cathars and of anyone else standing
nearby (good or bad) got exactly what they deserved, and then some. Of
course, our warm and fuzzy NASA wouldn't so much as dare to hire on or
in any way associate with such a Vatican black-balled "George Coyne".
Apparently the Pope's God or even the more impressive Jewish God of
their one and only humanity doesn't believe in pictures, nor in the
regular laws of physics, nor much less in the best available science
that can be replicated. (so what's new?)

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/magellan/ (along with all the usual NASA
approved infomercial-science)

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif (naked and
w/o infomercial-science)

Most of my external pages need to get updated, as I've previously
included more than my fair share of misunderstandings and outright
mistakes, plus having otherwise dyslexic encrypted most everything so
that MI/NSA moles and spooks can't quite figure it all out.
-

"If you're not looking for the truth, you will not find it."
-Brad Guth

"To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting."
-Stanislaus I

"The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes,
but having new eyes."
-Marcel Proust

"Truth is given, not to be contemplated, but to be done. Life is an
action, not a thought."
-F.W. Robertson
~
Even good old and cranky but otherwise fun loving Kurt Vonnegut would
have to agree that; WAR is WAR, thus "in war there are no rules" - In
fact, war has been the very reason why honest folks are having to deal
with the likes of others that haven't been playing by whatever the
supposed rules, such as our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) having
invented WMD seems to come to mind.

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm


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Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

False alarm. The headline reflects the propaganda
goals of the Reich-wing, and not reality.

Fact is, the man was born in 1933. If you're having
some difficulty with the math (and if you're a
creationist git then surely you are) that would make
him 73 years old.

There really isn't anything special about the Vatican
retiring a 73 y.o. man who's been on the job for 25
years.

Problem is, America's Reich-wing needs everyone to
believe that "Creationism" equals "Christian," while
"Evolution" means "Godless secularism." So they
spin the retirement of a 73 y.o. man as "Dumping"
him for daring to contradict the purely fundamentalist
Protestant take on creationism.

Double-A wrote:
The Mormon Church has its own dilemma when confronted by modern
science:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/20...-dna-lds_x.htm

Double-A


Well, nobody sane ever claimed that either the Vatican or the mormon big
brethren were hotbeads of liberal thinking or free inquiry.

In article . com,
"Sound of Trumpet" wrote:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082104.html


Monday August 21, 2006


Vatican Dumps Darwinist-Boosting Astronomer

By Hilary White

ROME, August 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Jesuit
priest-astronomer who vocally opposed the Catholic understanding of
God-directed creation, has been removed from his post as head of the
Vatican observatory.


Galileo redux.

They never learn.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire

Contact - Throw a .net over the .com

Brad Guth wrote:
Perhaps George Coyne, as being outside the lethal range of the Pope's
stun-gun, will even go so far as to dare to appreciate upon what the
unlikely as Catholic nor Jewish Venusian environment as having been only
a touch physically hot and somewhat nasty as hell, because it's so
geothermally alive and kicking. At least there's been no other physics
nor available science proving otherwise.

That's the strangest piece of syntax I've even seen in English outside
of chinese electrical appliance user manuals.

(Michael Grosberg ):

That's the strangest piece of syntax I've even seen in English outside
of chinese electrical appliance user manuals.

(T Guy):

There's some pretty stiff competition later in the same post.

T G