CSI Miami throws science out the window, again

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"windowwasher" wrote:
Ignoring wind, other atmospherics, and other variables, a 2000 grain
50 cal. bullet fired with a muzzle velocity of 2900 fps would drop
around 230 inches at 1000 yards from the sight point with a total
drop of 257 inches. Obviously the drop would be considerably larger
at 2100 yards. My hunting ballistics calculator only goes to 1000
yards. I'm sure there are programs on the web that go higher.

At that distance, even the rotation of the earth becomes a factor.

I wonder how, if you're tilting the rifle up to compensate for such a huge
drop over distance, how you can even see the target in the scope?

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The scope is adjusted in reference to the sighted-in position such that when
the target is sighted in the scope, the rifle will actually have an
increased barrel tip up orientation. Over a long distance, not that much of
a tilt is needed. Gravity is always working on the projectile so there is
always somewhat of an upward tilt. Scopes are built such that distance to
target can be "dialed in" to adjust the scope. (I assume military sniper
scopes are pretty sophisticated and allow for adjustment out to very large
distances.) It still takes experience and skill even with the best weapon.
2100 yards is an astounding hit.

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"Unique" wrote:

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I wonder how, if you're tilting the rifle up to compensate for such a
huge drop over distance, how you can even see the target in the scope?

My father had a couple of Boer-War-era rifles (.45 Martini-Henry?
Enfield-Martini?) whose near sights were mounted on hinges (with detent
grooves at intervals) along which they could slide; when in the highest
position with the hinge raised, the notch would sit a good 10 cm above
the barrel, giving an angle of elevation something like 5°.

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aemeijers wrote:

David Johnston wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:39:01 -0700, Anim8rFSK
wrote:

Is it like "Bones" where Booth the FBI agent lets Bones (the forensic
anthropologist) to take the lead in a similar situation?
Yeah, well, Bones shouldn't even HAVE a gun.

Assuming she has a license, why wouldn't she have a gun?
Assuming she lives in metro DC, civilians can't GET a license. Even if
she lives outside, they can't carry in DC, IIRC.

Plus she carries it concealed, and she crosses state lines all over the
place.

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(William December Starr) wrote:

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Mark Nobles said:

Thanatos wrote:

Are you kidding me? They've done the "infinite zoom" thing
repeatedly on the Vegas show, just like the other two CSI shows,
where they take some grainy security camera footage and zoom in
to read a clothing label or a note in a person's hand or some
other ridiculous thing.

I have never seen anything on that show resembling this in any
way. They have done some very limited "sharpening" of pictures,
but it almost never gives them any useful information - maybe a
digit or two of a license plate, but never the kind of stuff they
do on Miami or Numbers.

Did you see the "CSI" episode that Faye Dunaway guest starred in[1]?

If I recall correctly they had a security camera image, from about
twenty feet away, of a parked car with something that the suspect
had put on the roof for a moment, and they enhanced the image enough
to be able to tell that it was a print-it-yourself airline ticket
(or boarding pass, I forget which) with a two-dimensional
data-encoding "UPC" on it, and then they enhanced it some more and
got a clear enough image of *that* to tell what date and flight it
was for.

*1: "Kiss-Kiss, Bye-Bye" Episode Number: 130 Season Num: 6 First
Aired: Thursday January 26, 2006

Pikers. On Las Vegas, they can zoom in on a sequin on a stripper's
pasty get a reflection of a guy across the street as seen in his rear
view mirror. Or run old footage of the casino and switch to infrared
and see that there's a body inside a trunk.

None of which comes close to CSI Miami that can break footage into
frames, which allows them to look BETWEEN the frames, and see action the
camera isn't fast enough to capture.

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Anim8rFSK wrote:
In article ,
(William December Starr) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Nobles said:

Thanatos wrote:

Are you kidding me? They've done the "infinite zoom" thing
repeatedly on the Vegas show, just like the other two CSI shows,
where they take some grainy security camera footage and zoom in
to read a clothing label or a note in a person's hand or some
other ridiculous thing.
I have never seen anything on that show resembling this in any
way. They have done some very limited "sharpening" of pictures,
but it almost never gives them any useful information - maybe a
digit or two of a license plate, but never the kind of stuff they
do on Miami or Numbers.
Did you see the "CSI" episode that Faye Dunaway guest starred in[1]?

If I recall correctly they had a security camera image, from about
twenty feet away, of a parked car with something that the suspect
had put on the roof for a moment, and they enhanced the image enough
to be able to tell that it was a print-it-yourself airline ticket
(or boarding pass, I forget which) with a two-dimensional
data-encoding "UPC" on it, and then they enhanced it some more and
got a clear enough image of *that* to tell what date and flight it
was for.

*1: "Kiss-Kiss, Bye-Bye" Episode Number: 130 Season Num: 6 First
Aired: Thursday January 26, 2006

Pikers. On Las Vegas, they can zoom in on a sequin on a stripper's
pasty get a reflection of a guy across the street as seen in his rear
view mirror. Or run old footage of the casino and switch to infrared
and see that there's a body inside a trunk.

Right!

None of which comes close to CSI Miami that can break footage into
frames, which allows them to look BETWEEN the frames, and see action the
camera isn't fast enough to capture.

Hm, do you write for TV?

bfg

Anim8rFSK wrote:
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aemeijers wrote:

David Johnston wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:39:01 -0700, Anim8rFSK
wrote:

Is it like "Bones" where Booth the FBI agent lets Bones (the forensic
anthropologist) to take the lead in a similar situation?
Yeah, well, Bones shouldn't even HAVE a gun.
Assuming she has a license, why wouldn't she have a gun?
Assuming she lives in metro DC, civilians can't GET a license. Even if
she lives outside, they can't carry in DC, IIRC.

Plus she carries it concealed, and she crosses state lines all over the
place.

DC: we know about
VA: not a problem
MD: ?

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Tony Harding wrote:

Anim8rFSK wrote:
In article ,
(William December Starr) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Nobles said:

Thanatos wrote:

Are you kidding me? They've done the "infinite zoom" thing
repeatedly on the Vegas show, just like the other two CSI shows,
where they take some grainy security camera footage and zoom in
to read a clothing label or a note in a person's hand or some
other ridiculous thing.
I have never seen anything on that show resembling this in any
way. They have done some very limited "sharpening" of pictures,
but it almost never gives them any useful information - maybe a
digit or two of a license plate, but never the kind of stuff they
do on Miami or Numbers.
Did you see the "CSI" episode that Faye Dunaway guest starred in[1]?

If I recall correctly they had a security camera image, from about
twenty feet away, of a parked car with something that the suspect
had put on the roof for a moment, and they enhanced the image enough
to be able to tell that it was a print-it-yourself airline ticket
(or boarding pass, I forget which) with a two-dimensional
data-encoding "UPC" on it, and then they enhanced it some more and
got a clear enough image of *that* to tell what date and flight it
was for.

*1: "Kiss-Kiss, Bye-Bye" Episode Number: 130 Season Num: 6 First
Aired: Thursday January 26, 2006

Pikers. On Las Vegas, they can zoom in on a sequin on a stripper's
pasty get a reflection of a guy across the street as seen in his rear
view mirror. Or run old footage of the casino and switch to infrared
and see that there's a body inside a trunk.

Right!

None of which comes close to CSI Miami that can break footage into
frames, which allows them to look BETWEEN the frames, and see action the
camera isn't fast enough to capture.

Hm, do you write for TV?

bfg

I'd answer that but I'm on strike. :P

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In article ,
Mark Nobles wrote:

Anim8rFSK wrote:

aemeijers wrote:
David Johnston wrote:
Anim8rFSK wrote:

Is it like "Bones" where Booth the FBI agent lets Bones (the forensic
anthropologist) to take the lead in a similar situation?
Yeah, well, Bones shouldn't even HAVE a gun.

Assuming she has a license, why wouldn't she have a gun?
Assuming she lives in metro DC, civilians can't GET a license. Even if
she lives outside, they can't carry in DC, IIRC.

Plus she carries it concealed, and she crosses state lines all over the
place.

I just assume she is "deputized" as a federal agent, so she can be
Boothe's partner, and state laws don't apply.

That would be NICE, but they don't seem to be playing it that way.

Worse still is BoaVista over on Miami Vice, who is apparently some
private citizen who does police work and now wants a gun for kicks.

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Mark Nobles wrote:

Anim8rFSK wrote:

In article ,
I'd answer that but I'm on strike.

Can you still work on your novel while you aren't walking the picket
line?

As a member of the WGA, I'm not qualified to come up with a clever reply.

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Anim8rFSK wrote:
In article ,
Tony Harding wrote:

Anim8rFSK wrote:
In article ,
(William December Starr) wrote:

In article ,
Mark Nobles said:

Thanatos wrote:

Are you kidding me? They've done the "infinite zoom" thing
repeatedly on the Vegas show, just like the other two CSI shows,
where they take some grainy security camera footage and zoom in
to read a clothing label or a note in a person's hand or some
other ridiculous thing.
I have never seen anything on that show resembling this in any
way. They have done some very limited "sharpening" of pictures,
but it almost never gives them any useful information - maybe a
digit or two of a license plate, but never the kind of stuff they
do on Miami or Numbers.
Did you see the "CSI" episode that Faye Dunaway guest starred in[1]?

If I recall correctly they had a security camera image, from about
twenty feet away, of a parked car with something that the suspect
had put on the roof for a moment, and they enhanced the image enough
to be able to tell that it was a print-it-yourself airline ticket
(or boarding pass, I forget which) with a two-dimensional
data-encoding "UPC" on it, and then they enhanced it some more and
got a clear enough image of *that* to tell what date and flight it
was for.

*1: "Kiss-Kiss, Bye-Bye" Episode Number: 130 Season Num: 6 First
Aired: Thursday January 26, 2006
Pikers. On Las Vegas, they can zoom in on a sequin on a stripper's
pasty get a reflection of a guy across the street as seen in his rear
view mirror. Or run old footage of the casino and switch to infrared
and see that there's a body inside a trunk.
Right!

None of which comes close to CSI Miami that can break footage into
frames, which allows them to look BETWEEN the frames, and see action the
camera isn't fast enough to capture.
Hm, do you write for TV?

bfg

I'd answer that but I'm on strike. :P

LOL good answer!