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http://www.space.com/13060-nasa-huma...ture-path.html I watched Apollo astronauts Neil Armstrong and Eugene Cernan, in space.com today and it was sad. So sad it made me cry. Amstrong's hands were trembling when he spoke softly. And I remembered those days of 69 when everything seemed possible and he proved it before all mankind as we watched him step into another planet. I remembered my grandfather, the same that told me that he paid big money in his youth to go to a show to see a machine heavier than the air take off and fly over the rooftops. And he could see, before he died, that a man stepped into a machine heavier than the air and flew to the moon. And all that came in a second, when I saw Amstrong and Cernan with their hair all white (as mine) plead for returning to space, keeping on that dream. But nothing goes any more in this era of greed. Space is just not profitable. |
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Space is just not profitable. Neither is welfare but it seems that's where the folks like Obama would rather spend the nation's money. Somehow though the space pioneers faded from public view after Apollo when their presence and support may have brought us something more meaningful than the Space Shuttle and ISS that became bottomless money pits without inspiring most of the population or delivering on any of their promises. |
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On Sep 23, 5:20*pm, "Val Kraut" wrote:
Space is just not profitable. *Neither is welfare but it seems that's where the folks like Obama would rather spend the nation's money. Somehow though the space pioneers faded from public view after Apollo when their presence and support may have brought us something more meaningful than the Space Shuttle and ISS that became bottomless money pits without inspiring most of the population or delivering on any of their promises. And his replacement will only be concerned about the welfare of the CEOs, the very rich, members of corporate boards, and the more special member of the American Chamber of Commerce. Space exploration isn't on that list either except as pork sausage with lots of cereal fillers. For some it is greed and others it is the result of being too low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It is true there are always poor but there aren't always Depressions and we may only be at 1929 as it stands. Or at the very best sometime in the 1930s prior to the second dip. Perhaps the next grand old party can reintroduce the policies of pre-war Dixie? Or maybe "they" can retread the "final solution" or perhaps go with the slogan "we only tax the poor and the working classes so there will be fewer of them" or perhaps "the rich are worth it so they deserve lower taxes".............oops they already use that one or nearly so. So the free market won't explore space? Maybe the great state of Texas can do it with hot air balloons and faith based propulsion systems. I wonder if Mars has hydrocarbon deposits for exploitation? Maybe we can get some global warming going on there? Off to live in a rat hole on a rock in a near vacuum with the employer controlling the air supply. .................................................. Trig |
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wrote: On Sep 23, 5:20*pm, "Val Kraut" wrote: Space is just not profitable. *Neither is welfare but it seems that's where the folks like Obama would rather spend the nation's money. Somehow though the space pioneers faded from public view after Apollo when their presence and support may have brought us something more meaningful than the Space Shuttle and ISS that became bottomless money pits without inspiring most of the population or delivering on any of their promises. And his replacement will only be concerned about the welfare of the CEOs, the very rich, members of corporate boards, and the more special member of the American Chamber of Commerce. Space exploration isn't on that list either except as pork sausage with lots of cereal fillers. For some it is greed and others it is the result of being too low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It is true there are always poor but there aren't always Depressions and we may only be at 1929 as it stands. Or at the very best sometime in the 1930s prior to the second dip. Perhaps the next grand old party can reintroduce the policies of pre-war Dixie? Or maybe "they" can retread the "final solution" or perhaps go with the slogan "we only tax the poor and the working classes so there will be fewer of them" or perhaps "the rich are worth it so they deserve lower taxes".............oops they already use that one or nearly so. So the free market won't explore space? Maybe the great state of Texas can do it with hot air balloons and faith based propulsion systems. I wonder if Mars has hydrocarbon deposits for exploitation? Maybe we can get some global warming going on there? Off to live in a rat hole on a rock in a near vacuum with the employer controlling the air supply. .................................................. Trig The problem is the ability of bankers to control our money supply. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGEPqe7DwLc And our overly intrusive government. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03MqzFcfh9c Warm mars by placing a condenser at Lagrange Point 1 between Mars and Sol. This condenser consists of a ring of slowly spinning Fresnel zone plates 10,344 km in diameter with a hole 6,787 km in diameter orbiting on the sun-ward side of Mars 1,083,996 km above Mars. To an observer on Mars the Sun appears to be as large as it is on Earth increasing in size 1.6x - and light intensity increases from 593.5 W/ m2 on the Martian surface to 1,370 W/m2 (Earth normal) What's a Fresnel Zone plate? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_plate (Note the formula section) What do we make it out of? 5261 Eureka A 3 km diameter asteroid orbiting at Martian L5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5261_Eureka How do we proceed? All we do is send a probe to the 3 km diameter asteroid at Martian Lagrange Point 5, manufacture zone plate components there using solar energy, and eject them using a rail gun at 0.2 km/sec (448 mph) to travel to Martian Lagrange Point 1. As the projectiles approache L1 they deploy from their canister and use a solar sail technique with part of the zone plate component to slow to the precise spot and maintain position there. In a few months, the zone plate is completed. Its easy to compute the size of the binary zone plate elements of the 10,344 km diameter zone plate around the 6,787 km diameter hole with a 1,083,996 km focal length. Each zone plate element in a swarm - self assembles using a local radio positioning technique based on radio signals sent from the probe at Martian L5 and from Mars itself. Increasing the light intensity increases the temperature of Mars to Earth normal. Rising temperatures will cause the iron oxides to break down releasing vast quantities of water locked in the Martian crust. The soil will turn from red to black as water accumulates on the surface. Water vapor increases the atmospheric pressure. UV light breaks down the water vapor into hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen escapes the planet. Oxygen remains. At 20,000 pascal pressure (3 psi) the oxygen is breathable, and water vapor rains out of the atmosphere. The number of CO2 atoms are unchanged by the rising water vapor - and so, CO2 pressure remains the same partial pressure they have today (by Ficks law) - which is 30 pascals - about what it is on Earth. Nitrates will be a valued commodity at this point. How to Calculate the distance to L1 from any planet/moon and its primary; r=R*(Planet Mass/(3*Primary Mass))^(1/3) Mass of Sun 6.42E+23 kg (Primary) Mass of Mars 1.99E+30 kg (Planet) Radius 2.2792E+11 m (R) r 1,083,995,868.16222 m (answer) |
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On 9/23/2011 1:38 PM, jacob navia wrote:
But nothing goes any more in this era of greed. Space is just not profitable. We wouldn't have built may airplanes either if you couldn't: A. Use them to aid in killing people. B. Make a buck off of them. Now if Buzz had been there, things would have been different. He would have danced with most of the members of congress, then brought in his pet chimpanzee, "Moonwatcher" who would present each of the congress members with a small model of Phobos with a tiny black monolith on it. After that, they would know what to do. After the chimp's bullet riddled and lifeless body was dragged from the chamber and Buzz was safely in the custody of the police, Neil's testimony would seem like the height of rationality and most sage advice. I suggested this outside-the-box strategy to NASA last week, but the hidebound fools would have none of it. Pat |
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"jacob navia" wrote in message ... And all that came in a second, when I saw Amstrong and Cernan with their hair all white (as mine) plead for returning to space, keeping on that dream. "Dreams are well but Waking's better, If One wake at Morn If One wake at Midnight better Dreaming of the Dawn" There are two ways of looking at the space program. The way it is, or what it could become. It could provide the long term solution to the global energy future. And end wars over oil. It could become the primary solution to climate change. It could bring prosperity and opportunity to billions in the third world, and end world hunger. It could transform humanity from barbaric, to civilized once and for all. The largest industry in the world is food, followed closely by energy. And a quarter of the food produced spoils for a lack of energy. All it takes is to figure out how in the world the space program can become directly connected to those industries and needs Space Solar Power is no pipe-dream, colonies on Mars and mining asteroids are pipe-dreams which provide little hope for a better future. Nothing approaching the possibilities of an entirely clean energy source which can /travel/ to the ends of the Earth, reaching all those people currently left behind, where conventional power will never reach. Because of the ability of Space Solar Power to reach anywhere including thinly populated areas, SSP would be every bit as big an advance as AC power was over DC. For billions it would be the difference between electricity and the Internet, or nothing, and remaining in stone age poverty. All that, and our space program badly needs new inspiration and direction. You may feel sad at the current state of affairs, I see a space program which only just now has a rare and magnificent opportunity to Save the World from itself yet again. I truly believe that day will soon come true. These guys feel the same way, and they represent the best and brightest in their field. Space Energy Inc. http://spaceenergy.com/ "But how shall finished Creatures A function fresh obtain? Old Nicodemus' Phantom Confronting us again!" s |
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Check this out;
Ever wonder why we didn't have income taxes before 1913? Ever wonder how government coped? We didn't have income taxes before 1913 because before 1913 the USA issued debt free currency as a sovereign state - and spent that money into existence and then raised sufficient tax to keep the money in circulation of stable value. That's how Lincoln paid for the Civil War, and why the USA accumulated so much wealth and grew so rapidly from the Civil War through 1913 despite millions of people coming to America during this period. Lincoln's commitment to debt free currency is why Lincoln was assassinated. The issuance of debt free currency to resolve an artificially induced banking crisis is why Garfield was assassinated. Imposing restrictions to keep US gold and silver from Alaska in the US to support US currency is why McKinley was assassinated. A big supporter of McKinley and US economic growth independently of European influence, John Astor, was killed along with 600 other major supporters of the "American Way" were given free passage on the maiden voyage of the Titanic, by the major supporter of European banking interests, JP Morgan, who bought the White Star line, paid for the Titanic, and sold the company afterward. A few months after the death of Astor and his associates, the Federal Reserve was made law. Check out this chart of wages and productivity; http://jkornacki.com/wp-content/uplo...real_wages.jpg Productivity and wages decoupled in 1913. The decoupling accelerated in 1963. What happened on these dates? In 1913 the USA created the Federal Reserve and IRS. In 1963 JFK was assassinated and the perpetrators got precious metals out of our currency and got into power and passed laws that restricted liberties and free markets and created 'too big to fails' which is another name for Fascism. Why is that important? Because after 1913 money=debt and debt bears interest which extracts all the wealth out of an economy. After 1963 the government lost all ability to operate independently of the Federal Reserve. Federal Reserve: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84887024293324 JFK Assassination: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQ5mFkrlDs JFK Jr. Death: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=284zz4Nl00g FDR Assassination Attempt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnr7CxqxJdQ The American Way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q What can we do? Personal currency instead of world currency... Return to our roots, with modern counterfeit proof electronic currency http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q A peer to peer electronic currency: http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf Gift economy versus market economy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy How do you bring this about? CORE PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY (1) Self-replicating machine systems... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine CORE TRANSPORT CAPABILITY (2) Voitenko Compressor initiated microfusion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voitenko_compressor CORE MECHANICAL ENERGY CAPABILITY (3) Zero-point energy extraction http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html Alright, so let's put this together. THE POWER OF SELF REPLICATION: A 23 micron diameter nano-robot made by reacting chemicals against a chemically structured wafer masses 7.5 nano-grams. So, you need 133 billion of these devices to make 1 kilogram of material. How long does it take to do this starting with one machine? Well if the replication time takes 1 hour - you'll need; 1 hour * LN(133e9)/LN(2) = 36.956 hours ~ 37 hours! Starting with 1 kg of these devices it will take 1 hour * LN(1000)/LN(2) = 9.965 hours ~ 10 hours! to make a tonne. Starting with 1 tonne of these devices it will take 1 hours * LN(7e9)/LN(2) = 32.704 hours ~ 33 hours! to produce 1 tonne of these devices for every man woman and child on the face of the planet. Approximately 80 hours - less than four days - after completing the very first machine. PRACTICAL FUSION Lithium-6 isotope of Lithium when combined with Deuterium isotope of Hydrogen forms a powder with an average density of 0.82 grams per cubic centimeter - when compressed with a Voitenko Compressor, produces an aneutronic fusion reaction - that produces alpha particles, which are EASILY deflected, moving at 11% light speed (33,000 km/sec) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion Designs for these engines have been completed and tested. Disposable chemical and electromagnetic compressors have been built using micro- electro-mechanical systems (MEMS) aka wafer fab techniques at very low cost and efficient paraboloid deflectors have been designed built and tested. With this sort of engine it is possible to fly across the solar system in a matter of days at constant gee. Consider a trip from Earth to Moon at constant gee. One where you accelerate half way then flip over and slow half way to a gentle landing, avoiding the problem of zero gee aboard ship. Well if you do that with this fusion rocket it takes 3.6 hours each way and consumes 0.75% of the total vehicle's weight to go out and back. You reach a top speed of 62.7 km/sec. How about a constant gee trip to Mars? Well this takes 48 hours each way and consumes 9.9% of the total vehicles weight to go out and back. A top speed of 858.2 km/sec is achieved. How about a constant gee trip to Ceres and back? This takes 57 hours each way and requires 21.7% of the ships mass be propellant. Cutting these accelerations back to 1/10th gee - for freight - changes the Earth Moon times to 5.6 hours each way the top speed to 39.6 km/ sec and the propellant fraction to 0.24% It changes the Earth Mars times to 48.6 hours each way, top speed to 85.8 km/sec and propellant fraction to 1%. It changes the Earth Ceres times to 114.1 hours top speed to 403.2 km/sec and propellant fraction to 2.41% One way they consume about 1.5% propellant fraction. Minimum energy orbits require vastly less energy with longer trip times. Wealthy humanity uses around 4 tonnes per person per year of materials. 1.5 tons of that is fuel. This means that there are 2.5 tonnes per person per year is other stuff since practical fusion ends reliance on fossil fuels. Assuming all persons are wealthy and obtain their raw materials from the Asteroid belt at 1/10th gee - each person would consume 28.2 kilograms of lithium-6. There are 21 trillion kg of lithium-6 in Earth's oceans. Even more in the ices of Saturn's moons and in the asteroids. Enough to last centuries even assuming every man woman and child obtained every raw material they used on Earth from the asteroid belt. It takes up to 30 days to ship things by container ship. It takes 5 days to ship by fusion rocket at 1/10th gee. The space travel problem is solved with this technology. ZERO POINT ENERGY The Casimir-Polder force is a well defined effect caused by the zero point energy of the vacuum. Since this force is not conserved, it can be tapped. That is the State Variable of the Vacuum is non-zero. Chemicals have been designed to work with microscopic channels to take advantage of this Casimir force to extract useful energy to change the chemical's state. This changes everything. And useful machines have been built using them. The important point here is we have no energy shortages running our machinery and especially our self replicating machinery. While this is useful for replacing chemical fuels, and batteries, it does not yet work at the nuclear level, so, fusion power has specific application. WHAT CAN WE DO? I am engaged in the following program; (1) deploy a cloud of microscopic observers throughout the biosphere that network together to implement a free intelligence service and internet; (2) send a 1 kg payload to Saturn at 1 gee using a 207 gram fusion rocket (yes they can be made that small). It arrives in 9 days. (3) deposit the self-replicating payload in the Saturnian moon Iapetus. This moon contains 1.6e+21 kg of water ice. The Earth's hydrosphere contains 1.4e+21 kg of water. (4) process the entire body of Iapetus with self-replicating machine systems extracting 2e+20 kg of raw materials, and sending sufficient water to Venus to form an ocean that covers 50% of its surface, sufficient water to cover 25% of Mars, 25% of the Moon and 25% of Mercury with oceans. (5) Eject ice from Saturn's moon Iapetus at 35 km/sec using fusion energized rockets toward Venus, Mercury and the Moon, it arrives at 40 km/sec to 45 km/sec - and directed against the limb of these worlds, causes them to spin - taking up a 24 hour day. Mars already spins at a rate of 24 hours. It takes 9 months for the oceans to arrive at these planets. (6) During transit send small self-replicating systems to Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury as well as Ceres and other major asteroids. Process the atmosphere of Venus and the crusts of these worlds to a depth of 20 km. (7) There is enough nitrogen on Venus to sustain 4.3 Earth atmospheres. Enough oxygen (when separated from Carbon) to sustain 306 Earth atmospheres. Enough carbon to construct large sun shields and diamondoid solar panels at Lagrange Point 1 between the Sun and Each planet. For Venus and Mercury these reduce light levels on the planet to Earth normal. For Mars this operates as a condenser to focus additional light on Mars to raise light levels to Earth normal. Solar energy is used to drive powerful electro magnetic at each shield to provide protection from Solar wind and Solar flares. The atmospheric gases are sufficient to give Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury earth normal atmospheres. (8) The materials are processed in the crusts of each world to make them stable after the arrival of water. Excess materials, and especially metals, are extracted and sent to Lagrange Point 1, to be held in trust for all mankind. These materials along with self- replicating machine systems that extracted them, are capable of making any manner of products. (9) After the arrival and settling of the oceans, self replicating machine systems shape the land and sea floor and establish stable chemical conditions. Advanced propagation techniques are applied to a small quantity of stock extracted from Earth to fill the land and ocean with Earth life, including freely available food crops fiber crops and livestock. This will be completed only 5 years after launch of the initial Saturn probe. A total of 90 billion acres of land have been developed. (10) Based on modeling of the human race derived from the intelligence network mentioned previously construct free flying fusion powered space homes at Mercury and fly them to Earth. Pick up all people who desire a freehold off world. Each man woman and child (7 billion total as of today) can claim 5 acres each, along with a proportionate demand on the self-replicating systems and feedstock materials extracted by this process - to build a self-sustaining homestead anywhere of their choosing off world. They owe nothing for this, it is a gift. The only requirement is that they give to those in need as they see the need, as payment. http://www.scribd.com/doc/62745980/Flying-Home (11) Over the next 15 years the entire asteroid belt along with surplus air and water, are used to complete a ring of large interconnected space colonies in a ring 820 million km in diameter with a colony diameter of 30 km - with a condenser orbiting sunward 240 km in diameter to achieve shielding and Earth normal light levels. This has vast oceans and 7.3 TRILLION acres of productive land area. Saturn's moon Enceladus provides additional water. Neptune's moon Triton provides added nitrogen. Venus continues to supply adequate oxygen. At 80 acres per home it will take over 600 years to reach that capacity of this structure. (12) At Mercury large solar pumped laser arrays are built and deployed to float on light pressure 3.7 million km above the Sun's surface. Laser energy is directed outward to a reflector, also held in place by light pressure, 100 billion km or more from the Sun. This reflector bounces the light back AROUND the Sun, using its gravity as a vast lens, allowing beams to be accurately formed and maintained across the light years - pointed at a nearby star. Laser light sails operate with fusion powered rockets to allow them to accelerate to 33% light speed. They boost at 1/6 gee from the Solar system to 100 billion km in about 4 months - along the line connecting Sol to the nearby star. There a solar sail is deployed and the engine is cut off. Acceleration rises to 1/3 gee - and lasts about 9 months. The ship is now traveling at 100,000 km/sec. In 12 to 15 years depending on the star, the ship arrives at the nearby star. There a similar laser pointing away from the star, slows the ship after it deploys its light sail. It arrives at the target star and uses its fusion engine to slow further and navigate throughout the remote star system. Earlier, two stage light sails deposited self replicating machine systems which first surveyed the target star, and terra formed planets and built space colonies - as at Sol. As for the Solar System, vast areas around each star are turned to the support of human beings. Starting in 2025 and continuing through 2300 - even assuming a 1.14% per year rate of growth in human numbers, we can see that the number of people per Earth area drops from 43 million to 5,000!! This is the vision I have for space travel over the next few years. Cheers William Mook |
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On Sep 26, 9:27*pm, William Mook wrote:
Check this out; Ever wonder why we didn't have income taxes before 1913? *Ever wonder how government coped? We didn't have income taxes before 1913 because before 1913 the USA issued debt free currency as a sovereign state - and spent that money into existence and then raised sufficient tax to keep the money in circulation of stable value. That's how Lincoln paid for the Civil War, and why the USA accumulated so much wealth and grew so rapidly from the Civil War through 1913 despite millions of people coming to America during this period. Lincoln's commitment to debt free currency is why Lincoln was assassinated. *The issuance of debt free currency to resolve an artificially induced banking crisis is why Garfield was assassinated. Imposing restrictions to keep US gold and silver from Alaska in the US to support US currency is why McKinley was assassinated. *A big supporter of McKinley and US economic growth independently of European influence, John Astor, was killed along with 600 other major supporters of the "American Way" were given free passage on the maiden voyage of the Titanic, by the major supporter of European banking interests, JP Morgan, who bought the White Star line, paid for the Titanic, and sold the company afterward. *A few months after the death of Astor and his associates, the Federal Reserve was made law. Check out this chart of wages and productivity; http://jkornacki.com/wp-content/uplo...real_wages.jpg Productivity and wages decoupled in 1913. *The decoupling accelerated in 1963. What happened on these dates? In 1913 the USA created the Federal Reserve and IRS. In 1963 JFK was assassinated and the perpetrators got precious metals out of our currency and got into power and passed laws that restricted liberties and free markets and created 'too big to fails' which is another name for Fascism. Why is that important? Because after 1913 money=debt and debt bears interest which extracts all the wealth out of an economy. * *After 1963 the government lost all ability to operate independently of the Federal Reserve. Federal Reserve:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84887024293324 JFK Assassination:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQ5mFkrlDs JFK Jr. Death:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=284zz4Nl00g FDR Assassination Attempt:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnr7CxqxJdQ The American Way:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q What can we do? Personal currency instead of world currency... Return to our roots, with modern counterfeit proof electronic currencyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q A peer to peer electronic currency:http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf Gift economy versus market economy...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy How do you bring this about? CORE PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY (1) Self-replicating machine systems...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine CORE TRANSPORT CAPABILITY (2) Voitenko Compressor initiated microfusionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voitenko_compressor CORE MECHANICAL ENERGY CAPABILITY (3) Zero-point energy extractionhttp://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html Alright, so let's put this together. THE POWER OF SELF REPLICATION: A 23 micron diameter nano-robot made by reacting chemicals against a chemically structured wafer masses 7.5 nano-grams. *So, you need 133 billion of these devices to make 1 kilogram of material. *How long does it take to do this starting with one machine? *Well if the replication time takes 1 hour - you'll need; * * 1 hour * LN(133e9)/LN(2) = 36.956 hours ~ 37 hours! Starting with 1 kg of these devices it will take * * 1 hour * LN(1000)/LN(2) = 9.965 hours ~ 10 hours! to make a tonne. Starting with 1 tonne of these devices it will take * * 1 hours * LN(7e9)/LN(2) = 32.704 hours ~ 33 hours! to produce 1 tonne of these devices for every man woman and child on the face of the planet. Approximately 80 hours - less than four days - after completing the very first machine. PRACTICAL FUSION Lithium-6 isotope of Lithium when combined with Deuterium isotope of Hydrogen forms a powder with an average density of 0.82 grams per cubic centimeter - when compressed with a Voitenko Compressor, produces an aneutronic fusion reaction - that produces alpha particles, which are EASILY deflected, moving at 11% light speed (33,000 km/sec) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion Designs for these engines have been completed and tested. *Disposable chemical and electromagnetic compressors have been built using micro- electro-mechanical systems (MEMS) aka wafer fab techniques at very low cost and efficient paraboloid deflectors have been designed built and tested. With this sort of engine it is possible to fly across the solar system in a matter of days at constant gee. Consider a trip from Earth to Moon at constant gee. * *One where you accelerate half way then flip over and slow half way to a gentle landing, avoiding the problem of zero gee aboard ship. Well if you do that with this fusion rocket it takes 3.6 hours each way and consumes 0.75% of the total vehicle's weight to go out and back. *You reach a top speed of 62.7 km/sec. How about a constant gee trip to Mars? *Well this takes 48 hours each way and consumes 9.9% of the total vehicles weight to go out and back. *A top speed of 858.2 km/sec is achieved. How about a constant gee trip to Ceres and back? *This takes 57 hours each way and requires 21.7% of the ships mass be propellant. Cutting these accelerations back to 1/10th gee - for freight - changes the Earth Moon times to 5.6 hours each way the top speed to 39.6 km/ sec and the propellant fraction to 0.24% *It changes the Earth Mars times to 48.6 hours each way, top speed to 85.8 km/sec and propellant fraction to 1%. *It changes the Earth Ceres times to 114.1 hours top speed to 403.2 km/sec and propellant fraction to 2.41% * *One way they consume about 1.5% propellant fraction. * Minimum energy orbits require vastly less energy with longer trip times. Wealthy humanity uses around 4 tonnes per person per year of materials. *1.5 tons of that is fuel. *This means that there are 2.5 tonnes per person per year is other stuff since practical fusion ends reliance on fossil fuels. *Assuming all persons are wealthy and obtain their raw materials from the Asteroid belt at 1/10th gee - each person would consume 28.2 kilograms of lithium-6. *There are 21 trillion kg of lithium-6 in Earth's oceans. *Even more in the ices of Saturn's moons and in the asteroids. *Enough to last centuries even assuming every man woman and child obtained every raw material they used on Earth from the asteroid belt. It takes up to 30 days to ship things by container ship. *It takes 5 days to ship by fusion rocket at 1/10th gee. The space travel problem is solved with this technology. ZERO POINT ENERGY The Casimir-Polder force is a well defined effect caused by the zero point energy of the vacuum. *Since this force is not conserved, it can be tapped. *That is the State Variable of the Vacuum is non-zero. Chemicals have been designed to work with microscopic channels to take advantage of this Casimir force to extract useful energy to change the chemical's state. This changes everything. *And useful machines have been built using them. The important point here is we have no energy shortages running our machinery and especially our self replicating machinery. While this is useful for replacing chemical fuels, and batteries, it does not yet work at the nuclear level, so, fusion power has specific application. WHAT CAN WE DO? I am engaged in the following program; (1) deploy a cloud of microscopic observers throughout the biosphere that network together to implement a free intelligence service and internet; (2) send a 1 kg payload to Saturn at 1 gee using a 207 gram fusion rocket (yes they can be made that small). *It arrives in 9 days. (3) deposit the self-replicating payload in the Saturnian moon Iapetus. *This moon contains 1.6e+21 kg of water ice. *The Earth's hydrosphere contains 1.4e+21 kg of water. (4) process the entire body of Iapetus with self-replicating machine systems extracting 2e+20 kg of raw materials, and sending sufficient water to Venus to form an ocean that covers 50% of its surface, sufficient water to cover 25% of Mars, 25% of the Moon and 25% of Mercury with oceans. (5) Eject ice from Saturn's moon Iapetus at 35 km/sec using fusion energized rockets toward Venus, Mercury and the Moon, it arrives at 40 km/sec to 45 km/sec - and directed against the limb of these worlds, causes them to spin - taking up a 24 hour day. * *Mars already spins at a rate of 24 hours. *It takes 9 months for the oceans to arrive at these planets. (6) During transit send small self-replicating systems to Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury as well as Ceres and other major asteroids. Process the atmosphere of Venus and the crusts of these worlds to a depth of 20 km. (7) There is enough nitrogen on Venus to sustain 4.3 Earth atmospheres. *Enough oxygen (when separated from Carbon) to sustain 306 Earth atmospheres. *Enough carbon to construct large sun shields and diamondoid solar panels at Lagrange Point 1 between the Sun and Each planet. *For Venus and Mercury these reduce light levels on the planet to Earth normal. *For Mars this operates as a condenser to focus additional light on Mars to raise light levels to Earth normal. Solar energy is used to drive powerful electro magnetic at each shield to provide protection from Solar wind and Solar flares. *The atmospheric gases are sufficient to give Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury earth normal atmospheres. (8) The materials are processed in the crusts of each world to make them stable after the arrival of water. *Excess materials, and especially metals, are extracted and sent to Lagrange Point 1, to be held in trust for all mankind. *These materials along with self- replicating machine systems that extracted them, are capable of making any manner of products. (9) After the arrival and settling of the oceans, self replicating machine systems shape the land and sea floor and establish stable chemical conditions. *Advanced propagation techniques are applied to a small quantity of stock extracted from Earth to fill the land and ocean with Earth life, including freely available food crops fiber crops and livestock. * This will be completed only 5 years after launch of the initial Saturn probe. * A total of 90 billion acres of land have been developed. (10) *Based on modeling of the human race derived from the intelligence network mentioned previously construct free flying fusion powered space homes at Mercury and fly them to Earth. *Pick up all people who desire a freehold off world. *Each man woman and child (7 billion total as of today) can claim 5 acres each, along with a proportionate demand on the self-replicating systems and feedstock materials extracted by this process - to build a self-sustaining homestead anywhere of their choosing off world. *They owe nothing for this, it is a gift. *The only requirement is that they give to those in need as they see the need, as payment. http://www.scribd.com/doc/62745980/Flying-Home (11) Over the next 15 years the entire asteroid belt along with surplus air and water, are used to complete a ring of large interconnected space colonies in a ring 820 million km in diameter with a colony diameter of 30 km - with a condenser orbiting sunward 240 km in diameter to achieve shielding and Earth normal light levels. *This has vast oceans and 7.3 TRILLION acres of productive land area. *Saturn's moon Enceladus provides additional water. Neptune's moon Triton provides added nitrogen. *Venus continues to supply adequate oxygen. *At 80 acres *per home it will take over 600 years to reach that capacity of this structure. (12) At Mercury large solar pumped laser arrays are built and deployed to float on light pressure 3.7 million km above the Sun's surface. Laser energy is directed outward to a reflector, also held in place by light pressure, 100 billion km or more from the Sun. *This reflector bounces the light back AROUND the Sun, using its gravity as a vast lens, allowing beams to be accurately formed and maintained across the light years - pointed at a nearby star. *Laser light sails operate with fusion powered rockets to allow them to accelerate to 33% light speed. *They boost at 1/6 gee from the Solar system to 100 billion km in about 4 months - along the line connecting Sol to the nearby star. There a solar sail is deployed and the engine is cut off. Acceleration rises to 1/3 gee - and lasts about 9 months. *The ship is now traveling at 100,000 km/sec. *In 12 to 15 years depending on the star, the ship arrives at the nearby star. *There a similar laser pointing away from the star, slows the ship after it deploys its light sail. *It arrives at the target star and uses its fusion engine to slow further and navigate throughout the remote star system. *Earlier, two stage light sails deposited self replicating machine systems which first surveyed the target star, and terra formed planets and built space colonies - as at Sol. *As for the Solar System, vast areas around each star are turned to the support of human beings. Starting in 2025 and continuing through 2300 - even assuming a 1.14% per year rate of growth in human numbers, we can see that the number of people per Earth area drops from 43 million to 5,000!! This is the vision I have for space travel over the next few years. Cheers William Mook As long as our republic can't ever be told the whole truth and nothing but the truth, no amount of education or expertise is ever going to truly fix whatever's wrong and only getting worse. In this context, the past does lock us into the path we're on, and ”whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell is still offering a good analogy. If your expertise and leadership can fix any of this, go right ahead and show us how it's done, because it's pretty hard to ignore any demonstration that accomplishes whatever the author or creator had in mind. I for one would be a strong supporter of those actions that yield the sort of results which you claim are technically doable. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On Oct 2, 6:11*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Sep 26, 9:27*pm, wrote: Check this out; Ever wonder why we didn't have income taxes before 1913? *Ever wonder how government coped? We didn't have income taxes before 1913 because before 1913 the USA issued debt free currency as a sovereign state - and spent that money into existence and then raised sufficient tax to keep the money in circulation of stable value. That's how Lincoln paid for the Civil War, and why the USA accumulated so much wealth and grew so rapidly from the Civil War through 1913 despite millions of people coming to America during this period. Lincoln's commitment to debt free currency is why Lincoln was assassinated. *The issuance of debt free currency to resolve an artificially induced banking crisis is why Garfield was assassinated. Imposing restrictions to keep US gold and silver from Alaska in the US to support US currency is why McKinley was assassinated. *A big supporter of McKinley and US economic growth independently of European influence, John Astor, was killed along with 600 other major supporters of the "American Way" were given free passage on the maiden voyage of the Titanic, by the major supporter of European banking interests, JP Morgan, who bought the White Star line, paid for the Titanic, and sold the company afterward. *A few months after the death of Astor and his associates, the Federal Reserve was made law. Check out this chart of wages and productivity; http://jkornacki.com/wp-content/uplo...real_wages.jpg Productivity and wages decoupled in 1913. *The decoupling accelerated in 1963. What happened on these dates? In 1913 the USA created the Federal Reserve and IRS. In 1963 JFK was assassinated and the perpetrators got precious metals out of our currency and got into power and passed laws that restricted liberties and free markets and created 'too big to fails' which is another name for Fascism. Why is that important? Because after 1913 money=debt and debt bears interest which extracts all the wealth out of an economy. * *After 1963 the government lost all ability to operate independently of the Federal Reserve. Federal Reserve:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84887024293324 JFK Assassination:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAQ5mFkrlDs JFK Jr. Death:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=284zz4Nl00g FDR Assassination Attempt:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnr7CxqxJdQ The American Way:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q What can we do? Personal currency instead of world currency... Return to our roots, with modern counterfeit proof electronic currencyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgcdRCWEt4Q A peer to peer electronic currency:http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf Gift economy versus market economy...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gift_economy How do you bring this about? CORE PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY (1) Self-replicating machine systems...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_machine CORE TRANSPORT CAPABILITY (2) Voitenko Compressor initiated microfusionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voitenko_compressor CORE MECHANICAL ENERGY CAPABILITY (3) Zero-point energy extractionhttp://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html Alright, so let's put this together. THE POWER OF SELFREPLICATION: A 23 micron diameter nano-robot made by reacting chemicals against a chemically structured wafer masses 7.5 nano-grams. *So, you need 133 billion of these devices to make 1 kilogram of material. *How long does it take to do this starting with one machine? *Well if the replicationtime takes 1 hour - you'll need; * * 1 hour * LN(133e9)/LN(2) = 36.956 hours ~ 37 hours! Starting with 1 kg of these devices it will take * * 1 hour * LN(1000)/LN(2) = 9.965 hours ~ 10 hours! to make a tonne. Starting with 1 tonne of these devices it will take * * 1 hours * LN(7e9)/LN(2) = 32.704 hours ~ 33 hours! to produce 1 tonne of these devices for every man woman and child on the face of the planet. Approximately 80 hours - less than four days - after completing the very first machine. PRACTICAL FUSION Lithium-6 isotope of Lithium when combined with Deuterium isotope of Hydrogen forms a powder with an average density of 0.82 grams per cubic centimeter - when compressed with a Voitenko Compressor, produces an aneutronic fusion reaction - that produces alpha particles, which are EASILY deflected, moving at 11% light speed (33,000 km/sec) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneutronic_fusion Designs for these engines have been completed and tested. *Disposable chemical and electromagnetic compressors have been built using micro- electro-mechanical systems (MEMS) aka wafer fab techniques at very low cost and efficient paraboloid deflectors have been designed built and tested. With this sort of engine it is possible to fly across the solar system in a matter of days at constant gee. Consider a trip from Earth to Moon at constant gee. * *One where you accelerate half way then flip over and slow half way to a gentle landing, avoiding the problem of zero gee aboard ship. Well if you do that with this fusion rocket it takes 3.6 hours each way and consumes 0.75% of the total vehicle's weight to go out and back. *You reach a top speed of 62.7 km/sec. How about a constant gee trip to Mars? *Well this takes 48 hours each way and consumes 9.9% of the total vehicles weight to go out and back. *A top speed of 858.2 km/sec is achieved. How about a constant gee trip to Ceres and back? *This takes 57 hours each way and requires 21.7% of the ships mass be propellant. Cutting these accelerations back to 1/10th gee - for freight - changes the Earth Moon times to 5.6 hours each way the top speed to 39.6 km/ sec and the propellant fraction to 0.24% *It changes the Earth Mars times to 48.6 hours each way, top speed to 85.8 km/sec and propellant fraction to 1%. *It changes the Earth Ceres times to 114.1 hours top speed to 403.2 km/sec and propellant fraction to 2.41% * *One way they consume about 1.5% propellant fraction. * Minimum energy orbits require vastly less energy with longer trip times. Wealthy humanity uses around 4 tonnes per person per year of materials. *1.5 tons of that is fuel. *This means that there are 2.5 tonnes per person per year is other stuff since practical fusion ends reliance on fossil fuels. *Assuming all persons are wealthy and obtain their raw materials from the Asteroid belt at 1/10th gee - each person would consume 28.2 kilograms of lithium-6. *There are 21 trillion kg of lithium-6 in Earth's oceans. *Even more in the ices of Saturn's moons and in the asteroids. *Enough to last centuries even assuming every man woman and child obtained every raw material they used on Earth from the asteroid belt. It takes up to 30 days to ship things by container ship. *It takes 5 days to ship by fusion rocket at 1/10th gee. The space travel problem is solved with this technology. ZERO POINT ENERGY The Casimir-Polder force is a well defined effect caused by the zero point energy of the vacuum. *Since this force is not conserved, it can be tapped. *That is the State Variable of the Vacuum is non-zero. Chemicals have been designed to work with microscopic channels to take advantage of this Casimir force to extract useful energy to change the chemical's state. This changes everything. *And useful machines have been built using them. The important point here is we have no energy shortages running our machinery and especially our self replicating machinery. While this is useful for replacing chemical fuels, and batteries, it does not yet work at the nuclear level, so, fusion power has specific application. WHAT CAN WE DO? I am engaged in the following program; (1) deploy a cloud of microscopic observers throughout the biosphere that network together to implement a free intelligence service and internet; (2) send a 1 kg payload to Saturn at 1 gee using a 207 gram fusion rocket (yes they can be made that small). *It arrives in 9 days. (3) deposit the self-replicating payload in the Saturnian moon Iapetus. *This moon contains 1.6e+21 kg of water ice. *The Earth's hydrosphere contains 1.4e+21 kg of water. (4) process the entire body of Iapetus with self-replicating machine systems extracting 2e+20 kg of raw materials, and sending sufficient water to Venus to form an ocean that covers 50% of its surface, sufficient water to cover 25% of Mars, 25% of the Moon and 25% of Mercury with oceans. (5) Eject ice from Saturn's moon Iapetus at 35 km/sec using fusion energized rockets toward Venus, Mercury and the Moon, it arrives at 40 km/sec to 45 km/sec - and directed against the limb of these worlds, causes them to spin - taking up a 24 hour day. * *Mars already spins at a rate of 24 hours. *It takes 9 months for the oceans to arrive at these planets. (6) During transit send small self-replicating systems to Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury as well as Ceres and other major asteroids. Process the atmosphere of Venus and the crusts of these worlds to a depth of 20 km. (7) There is enough nitrogen on Venus to sustain 4.3 Earth atmospheres. *Enough oxygen (when separated from Carbon) to sustain 306 Earth atmospheres. *Enough carbon to construct large sun shields and diamondoid solar panels at Lagrange Point 1 between the Sun and Each planet. *For Venus and Mercury these reduce light levels on the planet to Earth normal. *For Mars this operates as a condenser to focus additional light on Mars to raise light levels to Earth normal. Solar energy is used to drive powerful electro magnetic at each shield to provide protection from Solar wind and Solar flares. *The atmospheric gases are sufficient to give Venus, Mars, the Moon and Mercury earth normal atmospheres. (8) The materials are processed in the crusts of each world to make them stable after the arrival of water. *Excess materials, and especially metals, are extracted and sent to Lagrange Point 1, to be held in trust for all mankind. *These materials along with self- replicating machine systems that extracted them, are capable of making any manner of products. (9) After the arrival and settling of the oceans, self replicating machine systems shape the land and sea floor and establish stable chemical conditions. *Advanced propagation techniques are applied to a small quantity of stock extracted from Earth to fill the land and ocean with Earth life, including freely available food crops fiber crops and livestock. * This will be completed only 5 years after launch of the initial Saturn probe. * A total of 90 billion acres of land have been developed. (10) *Based on modeling of the human race derived from the intelligence network mentioned previously construct free flying fusion powered space homes at Mercury and fly them to Earth. *Pick up all people who desire a freehold off world. *Each man woman and child (7 billion total as of today) can claim 5 acres each, along with a proportionate demand on the self-replicating systems and feedstock materials extracted by this process - to build a self-sustaining homestead anywhere of their choosing off world. *They owe nothing for this, it is a gift. *The only requirement is that they give to those in need as they see the need, as payment. http://www.scribd.com/doc/62745980/Flying-Home (11) Over the next 15 years the entire asteroid belt along with surplus air and water, are used to complete a ring of large interconnected space colonies in a ring 820 million km in diameter with a colony diameter of 30 km - with a condenser orbiting sunward 240 km in diameter to achieve shielding and Earth normal light levels. *This has vast oceans and 7.3 TRILLION acres of productive land area. *Saturn's moon Enceladus provides additional water. Neptune's moon Triton provides added nitrogen. *Venus continues to supply adequate oxygen. *At 80 acres *per home it will take over 600 years to reach that capacity of this structure. (12) At Mercury large solar pumped laser arrays are built and deployed to float on light pressure 3.7 million km above the Sun's surface. Laser energy is directed outward to a reflector, also held in place by light pressure, 100 billion km or more from the Sun. *This reflector bounces the light back AROUND the Sun, using its gravity as a vast lens, allowing beams to be accurately formed and maintained across the light years - pointed at a nearby star. *Laser light sails operate with fusion powered rockets to allow them to accelerate to 33% light speed. *They boost at 1/6 gee from the Solar system to 100 billion km in about 4 months - along the line connecting Sol to the nearby star. There a solar sail is deployed and the engine is cut off. Acceleration rises to 1/3 gee - and lasts about 9 months. *The ship is now traveling at 100,000 km/sec. *In 12 to 15 years depending on the star, the ship arrives at the nearby star. *There a similar laser pointing away from the star, slows the ship after it deploys its light sail. *It arrives at the target star and uses its fusion engine to slow further and navigate throughout the remote star system. *Earlier, two stage light sails deposited self replicating machine systems which first surveyed the target star, and terra formed planets and built space colonies - as at Sol. *As for the Solar System, vast areas around each star are turned to the support of human beings. Starting in 2025 and continuing through 2300 - even assuming a 1.14% per year rate of growth in human numbers, we can see that the number of people per Earth area drops from 43 million to 5,000!! This is the vision I have for space travel over the next few years. Cheers WilliamMook As long as our republic can't ever be told the whole truth and nothing but the truth, no amount of education or expertise is ever going to truly fix whatever's wrong and only getting worse. *In this context, the past does lock us into the path we're on, and ”whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell is still offering a good analogy. If your expertise and leadership can fix any of this, go right ahead and show us how it's done, because it's pretty hard to ignore any demonstration that accomplishes whatever the author or creator had in mind. *I for one would be a strong supporter of those actions that yield the sort of results which you claim are technically doable. *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Thank you |
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