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Old March 2nd 16, 12:38 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 6:51:12 AM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
Mike Collins wrote:
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On Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, ddouglas wrote:
... and down here in Texas we say Plaay-ahhh-daees :-) said very slowly.

(just kidding)

Allan Tingey wrote in message ...
How do you pronounce Pleiades?

why would anyone from or in texas need to use that word?


Why resurrect a thread from the last century?




However since it has been resurrected it's Ply a dees rhyming with Hyades
in UK English.



http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...glish/pleiades


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJa5sok-TlU

The Greeks and Americans are right, the Oxford Dictionary wrong.



The Oxford Dictionary is the ultimate reference for the English language.
It gives both pronunciations and just as in words like schedule does not
judge which version is better. How do you pronounce Pythagoras, in Samos,
where he lived it's pronounced Pith ag or ass.
English pronunciation of foreign derived words differs between North
America and the British Isles. Some agree with the original derivation
language,some don't. It's about 50/50 whichever side of the Atlantic you
investigate. But dictionaries follow usages they do not force it. Each
pronunciation is correct for it's location. You should be less combative.
It would help your blood pressure.


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Old March 2nd 16, 01:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:41:32 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

The Oxford Dictionary is the ultimate reference for the English language.
It gives both pronunciations and just as in words like schedule does not
judge which version is better. How do you pronounce Pythagoras, in Samos,
where he lived it's pronounced Pith ag or ass.
English pronunciation of foreign derived words differs between North
America and the British Isles. Some agree with the original derivation
language,some don't. It's about 50/50 whichever side of the Atlantic you
investigate. But dictionaries follow usages they do not force it. Each
pronunciation is correct for it's location. You should be less combative.
It would help your blood pressure.


And Patrick Moore, patron saint of UK amateur astronomy, always referred to the "Plyadeez."
Flat 'a' as in Snellfish, Putin and Assad.
QED
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Old March 2nd 16, 01:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Chris.B wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:41:32 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

The Oxford Dictionary is the ultimate reference for the English language.
It gives both pronunciations and just as in words like schedule does not
judge which version is better. How do you pronounce Pythagoras, in Samos,
where he lived it's pronounced Pith ag or ass.
English pronunciation of foreign derived words differs between North
America and the British Isles. Some agree with the original derivation
language,some don't. It's about 50/50 whichever side of the Atlantic you
investigate. But dictionaries follow usages they do not force it. Each
pronunciation is correct for it's location. You should be less combative.
It would help your blood pressure.


And Patrick Moore, patron saint of UK amateur astronomy, always referred
to the "Plyadeez."
Flat 'a' as in Snellfish, Putin and Assad.
QED


He was wrong about Betelgeuse as well.


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Old March 2nd 16, 01:27 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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Mike Collins wrote:
Chris.B wrote:
On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 13:41:32 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

The Oxford Dictionary is the ultimate reference for the English language.
It gives both pronunciations and just as in words like schedule does not
judge which version is better. How do you pronounce Pythagoras, in Samos,
where he lived it's pronounced Pith ag or ass.
English pronunciation of foreign derived words differs between North
America and the British Isles. Some agree with the original derivation
language,some don't. It's about 50/50 whichever side of the Atlantic you
investigate. But dictionaries follow usages they do not force it. Each
pronunciation is correct for it's location. You should be less combative.
It would help your blood pressure.


And Patrick Moore, patron saint of UK amateur astronomy, always referred
to the "Plyadeez."
Flat 'a' as in Snellfish, Putin and Assad.
QED


He was wrong about Betelgeuse as well.
sent that too early by mistake.


He was wrong about Betelgeuse as well as the ridiculous Ur Ann us which he
successfully promoted. It's Uranus rhyming with anus,


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Old March 2nd 16, 01:52 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, 2 March 2016 14:30:57 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

He was wrong about Betelgeuse as well.
sent that too early by mistake.


He was wrong about Betelgeuse as well as the ridiculous Ur Ann us which he
successfully promoted. It's Uranus rhyming with anus,


Ah, Beetle Juice!
Perhaps he was compensating for something?
Abuse of British Libraries?
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Old March 2nd 16, 03:00 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins:
However since it has been resurrected it's Ply a dees rhyming with Hyades
in UK English.


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...glish/pleiades


Odd, that, even allowing for frequent differences between American and
British English. On both sides of the Atlantic we agree that "ei" is
/generally/ pronounced as a long "a." Witness "rein," "seine," "feign,"
"deign," "heinous," "neigh," et al. I think that the OED was overly
influenced by Greek. The Oxford American Dictionary has it as
play-a-deez."

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Old March 2nd 16, 04:30 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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Davoud wrote:
Mike Collins:
However since it has been resurrected it's Ply a dees rhyming with Hyades
in UK English.


http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...glish/pleiades


Odd, that, even allowing for frequent differences between American and
British English. On both sides of the Atlantic we agree that "ei" is
/generally/ pronounced as a long "a." Witness "rein," "seine," "feign,"
"deign," "heinous," "neigh," et al. I think that the OED was overly
influenced by Greek. The Oxford American Dictionary has it as
play-a-deez."


I find it strange as well but I never met anybody in the UK who used the
other pronunciation. Also I would have thought the German descended US
citizens would have held on to the "ei" equals eye pronunciation.
As one of my German teaches always said "Never say die, say dee".
On my first visit to the USA I was surprised by many of the differences you
don't see in films and TV programmes. "Erbs" instead of Herbs was the most
surprising.


 




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