Precession of the Equinoxes explanation

On Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 11:43:28 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

Scrap the now meaningless and geocentric 'tropical' latitudes and allow the
circles traced out by the polar points over the course of an annual orbit to
facilitate a new Equator reflecting the orbital plane of the Earth.

Excuse me, if the equator were aligned with the plane of the ecliptic, then,
except at the two equinoxes, every location would have its location change back
and forth over the course of each day.

That is not very useful as a way to express where something is located on the
surface of the Earth.

John Savard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

It will remain a wonderful once a year event as the polar latitude turns through the circle of illumination and the Sun appears for the first time in 6 months.

The first principle of astronomy since Copernicus is that rotation is behind the daily appearance of the Sun and now this is extended to the orbital event where a separates surface rotation of the entire planet can now be observed at the South polar latitude.

Nobody is ever going to challenge the rotation behind the appearance of the Sun each morning but neither will anyone, at least those with intelligence, support the polar sunrise and the surface rotation behind it be it ever so wonderful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

I think the majesty of this particular Southern polar latitude sunrise will appeal to those who have a sense of dignity,intelligence and that they are encountering something completely new as the Northern polar surface point turns through the circle of illumination in 10 days and the Sun comes into view.

This is no appeal to the slumbering academic not to the celestial sphere adherent and his magnification kit, it only appeals to those who can watch darkness turn to daylight as their location rotates through the circle of illumination each day and who can transfer this experience to the Northern and Southern polar latitudes where a separate rotation produces a wonderful astronomical event at the Equinoxes.

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:43:16 PM UTC, Quadibloc wrote:

Excuse me, if the equator were aligned with the plane of the ecliptic, then,
except at the two equinoxes, every location would have its location change back
and forth over the course of each day.

Not to mention that we already have a perfectly good name for the plane of the Earth's orbit: the Ecliptic. It is marked on charts and everything.

But in Gerald's new model, the Earth doesn't orbit the Sun, it just hangs in space gyrating. The Sun is always in the same spot, too, somewhere to the left of the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_...precession.svg

How he is going to model the motions of the stars, never mind the other planets, is going to be very interesting. The whole mess will be even more complex than Ptolemy (and less accurate, too, until he understands a lot more than he does now).

On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 8:30:11 AM UTC, wrote:
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:43:16 PM UTC, Quadibloc wrote:

Excuse me, if the equator were aligned with the plane of the ecliptic, then,
except at the two equinoxes, every location would have its location change back
and forth over the course of each day.

Not to mention that we already have a perfectly good name for the plane of the Earth's orbit: the Ecliptic. It is marked on charts and everything.

But in Gerald's new model, the Earth doesn't orbit the Sun, it just hangs in space gyrating. The Sun is always in the same spot, too, somewhere to the left of the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_...precession.svg

How he is going to model the motions of the stars, never mind the other planets, is going to be very interesting. The whole mess will be even more complex than Ptolemy (and less accurate, too, until he understands a lot more than he does now).

There is no model, there is just the lovely common sense fact behind the observation that darkness turns to daylight and the Sun comes into view as your location turns through the circle of illumination at dawn each day.

Now turn to the North at South poles at the Equinoxes -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okw6Mu3mxdM

So simple and effective to apply a daily observation to the polar latitudes where a surface rotation as a function of the orbital motion of the Earth takes center stage and I can, as a person who values their intelligence,definitely say that sunrise will appear at the Northern polar surface point in little over than a week and all sunrises and sunsets are due to rotation.

Nobody is going to distract or contend with cause and effect at this important juncture where dual surface rotations displace older and flawed views.It is the point of departure for so many productive and creative research as soon as people get behind it.