Breakthrough In Propulsion Physics.

Listen up, you insufferable ineducable jackass - physical theory is a
series of internally self-consistent axiomatic systems. They contain
no mistakes. You cannot use their content or structure to disprove
themselves. There are only two routes to discrediting extant theory,

No mistakes?

JS

(Abhi) wrote in message . com...
I have sent emails regarding "Breakthrough In Propulsion Physics"
contents of which are given below, to reputed physicists. But in
general, this message is addressed to all the physicists/scientists on
planet earth. I believe, in these final monents, this is my duty.
Thanking you,

-Abhi.
__________________________________________________ ______________

Dear Dr.

I believe that I have a device through which we can generate
unidirectional action force to propel any body without using reaction
mass or propellant. This device is based on my Time Theory regarding
origin of universe, cause of big bang, nature of time, space, energy,
mechanism of gravity, magnetism, charge etc.

http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice

I am 34 year old Assistant serving with an insurance company with
absolutely no scientific credentials or any kind of help at all. If I
approach media with this device to bring it before world, I do not
think that media reporters will take me seriously. After all, they are
reporters, not physicists.

As I have patented this device, I can always use commercial platform
to bring this device before world. But it will be saddest moment of my
life if I have to do so. Till this date, I tried on Internet through
discussion forums, some emails so that some reputed
physicist/scientific institution take notice of this invention and
bring it before world from educational platform with justice it
deserves. Because, I believe that this invention is going to change
our way of looking at universe, course of physics and history. It will
open gateway to entire universe in future for mankind.

I will be thankful to you if you take initiative to communicate with
me and bring this invention before world.

I will wait until Xmas eve for your Action, NOT discussion. Please
visit my homepage for mechanism of said Action Device..

http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice

This message is also relayed to other reputed scientists, physicists
and will be posted in physics discussion forums on Internet.

Thanking you,

-Abhi.
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice
Email:
Address:Abhijit B Patil , C/o: LIC of India, At/po/Tq: Shahada, Dist:
Nandurbar (MS), India. PIN: 425409


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Neil Turok,
Steven Weinberg,
John Barrow,
George Coyne,
Bruno Guiderdoni,
Marc millis, .
Sergei Kopeikin,
Tom van Flandern,
Hideki Asada,
Stuart Samuel,
Clifford M. Will,
Steve Carlip, .

I have sent emails regarding "Breakthrough In Propulsion Physics",
contents of which are given below, to all the faculty members of
Mechanical Engineering Department of Indian Institute of Technology
(IIT) Delhi.

I believe, in these final monents, this is my duty.

Thanking you,

-Abhi.
__________________________________________________ ____________

Dear Dr.

I believe that I have a device through which we can generate
unidirectional action force to propel any body without using reaction
mass or propellant.

http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice

I will be thankful to you if you take initiative to communicate with
me and bring this invention before world from most reputed educational
platform in India, IIT.

I will wait until X'mas eve.

Thanking you,

-Abhi.

Email:
Address:Abhijit B Patil , C/o: LIC of India, At/po/Tq: Shahada, Dist:
Nandurbar (MS), India. PIN: 425409

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EjP:


This is a common misconception. The only things that patent reviewers
check a
(a) That your patent fee check clears
(b) That there isn't already a patent for something identical
(c) That the application doesn't make certain *explicit*
claims.
As an example of the last, you cannot patent something which claims
to be a "perpetual motion machine"; however, there are a number
of standing patents for devices which - if their claims were
taken at face value - would imply perpetual motion. There is
great joy in kookville whenever this happens. The most
recent example was the famous "Motionless Electromagnetic
Generator (MEG)", which was patented in 2002:
http://my.voyager.net/~jrrandall/Patents/MEGPatent.htm
If the inventors' claims are to be believed, this is a
functioning over-unity generator, but more than a year an
a half later, they're still stuck paying their electric
bill - with money from investors, no doubt


You give the patent office too much credit.

(1) U.S. Patent No. 6,368,227 is for a method of swinging on a swing
(It appears that if you sit on a swing
and swing side-to-side rather than
back and forth, you owe royalties)

(2) U.S. Patent No. 4,151,431 is for a "permanent magnet motor"

(3) U.S. patent No. 5,375,430 is for a gravity powered shoe air
conditioner

(4) U.S. Patent No. 5,830,035 is for a toe puppet

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Mr. Patil were able to
patent his device, as long as he reworded the claims a bit.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was able to patent his device just
by including a cashier's check.

So you basically refute Newton's 3rd law and conservation of momentum. You
are saying that you, standing on the ground, with zero momentum, can
suddenly attain momentum without an external force or mass reduction but
only using internal forces to the system.

Pretty spooky or Harry Pottery stuff.

Yes, quite bizarre indeed. However if you could reduce the inertia of
a body to almost zero, you would not need more than a minuscule force
to gain a very high speed. Returning to your original inertia would
stop you.

I doubt that this can achieved in someone's garage, anyway... :-)

"Abhi" wrote in message
m...
(Abhi) wrote in message
. com...
I have sent emails regarding "Breakthrough In Propulsion Physics"
contents of which are given below, to reputed physicists. But in
general, this message is addressed to all the physicists/scientists on
planet earth. I believe, in these final monents, this is my duty.
Thanking you,

Tell you what....

Build a working prtotype and claim the JREF $1M prize to fund a commercial
product.

Dear Abhi Patil

These people in general are being relatively kind to you.
If you really have something cough it up and show us.
Otherwise STFU !

Paul Birke (Electrical Engineer)

BTW From one Indian Karma to another !!


Abhi wrote:
I have sent emails regarding "Breakthrough In Propulsion Physics"
contents of which are given below, to reputed physicists. But in
general, this message is addressed to all the physicists/scientists on
planet earth. I believe, in these final monents, this is my duty.
Thanking you,

-Abhi.
__________________________________________________ ______________

Dear Dr.

I believe that I have a device through which we can generate
unidirectional action force to propel any body without using reaction
mass or propellant. This device is based on my Time Theory regarding
origin of universe, cause of big bang, nature of time, space, energy,
mechanism of gravity, magnetism, charge etc.

http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice

I am 34 year old Assistant serving with an insurance company with
absolutely no scientific credentials or any kind of help at all. If I
approach media with this device to bring it before world, I do not
think that media reporters will take me seriously. After all, they are
reporters, not physicists.

As I have patented this device, I can always use commercial platform
to bring this device before world. But it will be saddest moment of my
life if I have to do so. Till this date, I tried on Internet through
discussion forums, some emails so that some reputed
physicist/scientific institution take notice of this invention and
bring it before world from educational platform with justice it
deserves. Because, I believe that this invention is going to change
our way of looking at universe, course of physics and history. It will
open gateway to entire universe in future for mankind.

I will be thankful to you if you take initiative to communicate with
me and bring this invention before world.

I will wait until Xmas eve for your Action, NOT discussion. Please
visit my homepage for mechanism of said Action Device..

http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice

This message is also relayed to other reputed scientists, physicists
and will be posted in physics discussion forums on Internet.

Thanking you,

-Abhi.
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/actiondevice
Email:
Address:Abhijit B Patil , C/o: LIC of India, At/po/Tq: Shahada, Dist:
Nandurbar (MS), India. PIN: 425409


Message relayed to:
chris Isham
sandra faber,
owen gingerich,
Alan Guth,
Edward Kolb,
david latham,
Joel Primack,
Trinh Xuan Thuan,
Neil Turok,
Steven Weinberg,
John Barrow,
George Coyne,
Bruno Guiderdoni,
Marc millis, .
Sergei Kopeikin,
Tom van Flandern,
Hideki Asada,
Stuart Samuel,
Clifford M. Will,
Steve Carlip, .

"Cesar Sirvent" wrote in message
m...
So you basically refute Newton's 3rd law and conservation of momentum.
You
are saying that you, standing on the ground, with zero momentum, can
suddenly attain momentum without an external force or mass reduction but
only using internal forces to the system.

Pretty spooky or Harry Pottery stuff.

Yes, quite bizarre indeed. However if you could reduce the inertia of
a body to almost zero, you would not need more than a minuscule force
to gain a very high speed. Returning to your original inertia would
stop you.

I doubt that this can achieved in someone's garage, anyway... :-)

Hi Cesar. Reducing inertia to zero is equivalent to reducing inertial mass
to zero. However, it seems to me he is talking about a propulsion of a
system where mass is conserved and d(mv)/dt is simply mdv/dt and not vdm/dt
+ mdv/dt.

Essential he claims that without external forces, mdv/dt is not zero, that
is the internal forces generate momentum and therefore action is not equal
reaction but there is a residual which accelerates the system.

Very spooky and against all known empirical observations for the last, let's
say, 3,000 years or more.

If he is not pulling legs here, I don't know what to say....

But he does not reply to the criticisms. Very funny...

Uncle Al wrote:

1) Space is homogeneous (translation) and isotropic (rotation).
Linear and angular momenta are therefore conserved through Noether's
theorem.
2) Translation in time is homogeneous. Energy is therefore
conserved through Noether's theorem.

I've always found an appeal to such laws unsatisfying, because basically
they say "free energy is not possible". What if this particular device
does generate free energy? I know it doesn't, but this is not the way to
convince this poor soul.

V.
--
email: lastname at cs utk edu
homepage: cs utk edu tilde lastname

"Victor Eijkhout" wrote in message
...
Uncle Al wrote:

1) Space is homogeneous (translation) and isotropic (rotation).
Linear and angular momenta are therefore conserved through Noether's
theorem.
2) Translation in time is homogeneous. Energy is therefore
conserved through Noether's theorem.

I've always found an appeal to such laws unsatisfying, because basically
they say "free energy is not possible". What if this particular device
does generate free energy? I know it doesn't, but this is not the way to
convince this poor soul.

In the best case, thermal energy, through internal friction. In this case
(2) doesn't even hold in your favor and you end up waisting your "time"
literally.


V.
--
email: lastname at cs utk edu
homepage: cs utk edu tilde lastname

Cesar Sirvent wrote:
So you basically refute Newton's 3rd law and conservation of
momentum. You are saying that you, standing on the ground, with
zero momentum, can suddenly attain momentum without an external
force or mass reduction but only using internal forces to the
system.

Pretty spooky or Harry Pottery stuff.


Yes, quite bizarre indeed. However if you could reduce the inertia of
a body to almost zero, you would not need more than a minuscule
force to gain a very high speed. Returning to your original inertia
would stop you.

I doubt that this can achieved in someone's garage, anyway... :-)

The theory of operation of temporary inertia nullification and a
proposed model of how it might function in practice, along with a
discussion of the issues raised by the "intrinsic" or pre-nullification
velocity vector possessed by the nullified object, were developed back
in the 1950's in a series of papers by Dr. E. E. Smith. Unfortunately
the world was not ready for Dr. Smith's theories, and cavalierly
relegated them to the status of "fiction".

To track down these references, visit your favorite online bookseller
and search for titles containing the words "Triplanetary" or "Lensman"
with author "E E (Doc) Smith".


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