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OT - Report From The Convention
"Bruce Palmer" wrote in message
et... If you look at a picture of Madison Square Garden you'll see 2 parts: the round arena part and a 30-story office building part. One of my clients is in the office building part also known as 2 Penn Plaza. I spoke with someone there earlier today where they're running a skeleton shift this week and allowing any employee who can work from home to do so. Among other things they run a fairly sizable IBM mainframe system. They have a contract with Iron Mountain services which is a company that maintains offsite storage of backup tapes. These backup tapes are rotated in weekly and monthly cycles. Monday is the day Iron Mountain makes its pickups and today their plain-white panel van snaked through Manhattan traffic towards the fortress that is Madison Square Garden and 2 Penn Plaza. Hilarity ensued when the driver was stopped by the police and secret service several blocks short of his destination. Much fun was had by all. Especially the driver, Abdullah. He got the tapes but only after parking half a mile away and carting the tapes away from the building on a dolly. I can just hear him at work this morning... "You want me to drive this plain-white van _where_?" Poor bugger. I wonder, would the same thing happen to a "Joe" or "Pete" (white, Anglo-Saxon) etc? -- Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge |
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"Alan Erskine" wrote in message ... "Bruce Palmer" wrote in message et... Poor bugger. I wonder, would the same thing happen to a "Joe" or "Pete" (white, Anglo-Saxon) etc? Given I saw them stopping a car on 34th on Thursday of last week and demanding IDs, I'd say yes. Security there is extremely intense. I'm avoiding NYC this week myself. -- Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge |
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"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Given I saw them stopping a car on 34th on Thursday of last week and demanding IDs, I'd say yes. Cops everywhere are employing their newly-confirmed power to demand identification without probable cause. Thanks, U.S. Supreme Court. Nice to know you're not immune to the "War on Terror" hysteria . . . :-/ Security there is extremely intense. No doubt. I'm avoiding NYC this week myself. I've been avoiding it since my last visit there in 1985. :-p -- Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." ~ Robert A. Heinlein http://www.angryherb.net |
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"Herb Schaltegger" wrote in message ... In article , "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Given I saw them stopping a car on 34th on Thursday of last week and demanding IDs, I'd say yes. Cops everywhere are employing their newly-confirmed power to demand identification without probable cause. Thanks, U.S. Supreme Court. Nice to know you're not immune to the "War on Terror" hysteria . . . :-/ Well, in this case, 34th between I think 6th and 9th Avenues are closed to traffic. This person was turning onto 34th. Security there is extremely intense. No doubt. I'm avoiding NYC this week myself. I've been avoiding it since my last visit there in 1985. :-p I actually enjoy the city and am down there every other week or so these days. -- Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D. "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." ~ Robert A. Heinlein http://www.angryherb.net |
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"Alan Erskine" writes: "Bruce Palmer" wrote in message et... If you look at a picture of Madison Square Garden you'll see 2 parts: the round arena part and a 30-story office building part. One of my clients is in the office building part also known as 2 Penn Plaza. I spoke with someone there earlier today where they're running a skeleton shift this week and allowing any employee who can work from home to do so. Among other things they run a fairly sizable IBM mainframe system. They have a contract with Iron Mountain services which is a company that maintains offsite storage of backup tapes. These backup tapes are rotated in weekly and monthly cycles. Monday is the day Iron Mountain makes its pickups and today their plain-white panel van snaked through Manhattan traffic towards the fortress that is Madison Square Garden and 2 Penn Plaza. Hilarity ensued when the driver was stopped by the police and secret service several blocks short of his destination. Much fun was had by all. Especially the driver, Abdullah. He got the tapes but only after parking half a mile away and carting the tapes away from the building on a dolly. I can just hear him at work this morning... "You want me to drive this plain-white van _where_?" Poor bugger. I wonder, would the same thing happen to a "Joe" or "Pete" (white, Anglo-Saxon) etc? Yep. The DNC decided, in its indefinite wisdom, to plop its convention atop the single nexus for traffic running through-into Boston. Their security demands meant that both Interstate 93, (THe main route into Boston from the North, all rail service into North Station, and the MBTA subway Green Line segments in that area all be shut down. There were State Troopers frisking bus passengers at commuter bus stops throughout New Hampshire. (We have a large Tax Refugee population - there's a lot of cross-border symbiontics that goes on.) Much Happiness Ensued. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:10:41 -0400, (Peter
Stickney) wrote: Yep. The DNC decided, in its indefinite wisdom, to plop its convention atop the single nexus for traffic running through-into Boston. ....As Bill Clinton proved, Democrats will always prefer to plop down on the high-trafficed routes :-P OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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Herb Schaltegger wrote [30 Aug 2004]:
Given I saw them stopping a car on 34th on Thursday of last week and demanding IDs, I'd say yes. Cops everywhere are employing their newly-confirmed power to demand identification without probable cause. Thanks, U.S. Supreme Court. Nice to know you're not immune to the "War on Terror" hysteria . . . :-/ There is a lot of irony in the fact that US people used to laugh at Eastern Europe people about that very thing... Still, it's very positive to hear that the guy not only survived but was also allowed to complete the task (although not as originally intended). -- (moskit-at-irc.pl) |
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On 2004-08-31, Herb Schaltegger wrote:
In article , "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Given I saw them stopping a car on 34th on Thursday of last week and demanding IDs, I'd say yes. Cops everywhere are employing their newly-confirmed power to demand identification without probable cause. Thanks, U.S. Supreme Court. Nice to know you're not immune to the "War on Terror" hysteria . . . :-/ I was reading something the other day - damned if I can remember where - which aregued that the NY statutes are sufficiently different to the (was it Arizona?) ones the ruling was made on that it doesn't apply in most cases - it *does* apply in a vehicle, but then it essentially did anyway (requirement to show a license, &c). Having heard Stories about NY police, waving all the documentation you have and grovelling still seems the safest bet, though... g Security there is extremely intense. No doubt. OTOH, Penn Station is still open, I'm told. That one must be a real headache... This is certainly making the UK approach - hold the Party conferences in a medium-sized coastal town after the holidays are over - seem substantially more rational. -- -Andrew Gray |
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"Andrew Gray" wrote in message . .. OTOH, Penn Station is still open, I'm told. That one must be a real headache... Technically yes.... but only 2 out of I think it's 9 entrances. Which means a madhouse. This is certainly making the UK approach - hold the Party conferences in a medium-sized coastal town after the holidays are over - seem substantially more rational. -- -Andrew Gray |
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