Space Tourist Spacesuits

So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

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So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

Tourists don't need to do work in space, so the suits may have no fingers.

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So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

Tourists don't need to do work in space, so the suits may have no fingers.

Or if they insist in being able to pickup and move things have a simple set
of waldos or claws that are electrical controlled by the tourist hands
slipping into control gloves built in the suit. They would not have the fine
control but do they need it? Even a simple eletromagnet at the end of each
arm. The tourist can use it to drag themselves along a metal frame or pick
(up/down/?) a metal object and let it go but not much else.

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I don't think space tourists should be allowed to spacewalk anyway.
On a tourist ship, the opening of the external hatch should ONLY be
done as an emergency measure or else when docking with an orbital hotel
or a Lunar cycler.
It's not DisneyLand, it's outer space.
If space-walking is allowed, the suit will have to be economical
and simple and cleaned and re-used after each tourist.

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I don't think space tourists should be allowed to spacewalk anyway.
On a tourist ship, the opening of the external hatch should ONLY be
done as an emergency measure or else when docking with an orbital hotel
or a Lunar cycler.
It's not DisneyLand, it's outer space.
If space-walking is allowed, the suit will have to be economical
and simple and cleaned and re-used after each tourist.

I don't think that's a given. Bigelow is projecting a rate of $1M/night
in his orbital hotel; at those prices, I can reasonably expect to take
home not just the towels, but the spacesuit too.

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- Joe

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So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

Tourists don't need to do work in space, so the suits may have no fingers.

So what happens if there is a habitat breach and you have to keep your space
suit on for a week. How do you **** and crap not to mention eat. Are there
tubes for all these things? I know some of them have a water tube for
drinking. I don't know about the rest.
Somebody doesn't need to tell me oxygen won't last a week or more. I know
they will have to replenish each other from a bulk supply.

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So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

Tourists don't need to do work in space, so the suits may have no
fingers.

So what happens if there is a habitat breach and you have to keep your
space
suit on for a week. How do you **** and crap not to mention eat. Are
there
tubes for all these things? I know some of them have a water tube for
drinking. I don't know about the rest.
Somebody doesn't need to tell me oxygen won't last a week or more. I know
they will have to replenish each other from a bulk supply.

In thinking about it later, it occurred to me that there are two types of
space suits -- flight suits and space walk suits. Given that tourists will
be flying home with their flight suits, they could keep them if they wanted.
For space walk suits, not only are they expensive to make but it is also
expensive to ship them to space. I think that they'll be re-used. Space
suits without gloves may last longer than standard space suits.

If a tourist is hooked to 3 tethers coming from different directions, the
flight crew can control his position. You might have two long metal arms
with tethers coming off of them and a third tether coming from the air-lock.
Tourists could go out one at a time.

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I don't think space tourists should be allowed to spacewalk anyway.


For some, the opprotunity to do so, will be a large part of the
reason for going.

There are plenty of ways to safely tether people. Remember, they're
not doing maintenance, just out there doing even less than Ed White did,
that first time. (And like Ed, even their life support might come via
the same umbilical that keeps them from floating away, plus an emergency
reserve pack.)


On a tourist ship, the opening of the external hatch should ONLY be
done as an emergency measure or else when docking with an orbital hotel
or a Lunar cycler.


Why, necessairily? We open doors on airplanes for sport skydiving...


It's not DisneyLand, it's outer space.


And one can't have both, because...?


If space-walking is allowed, the suit will have to be economical
and simple and cleaned and re-used after each tourist.


Agreed, but that seems rather obvious.

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Joe Strout wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

I don't think space tourists should be allowed to spacewalk anyway.
On a tourist ship, the opening of the external hatch should ONLY be
done as an emergency measure or else when docking with an orbital hotel
or a Lunar cycler.
It's not DisneyLand, it's outer space.
If space-walking is allowed, the suit will have to be economical
and simple and cleaned and re-used after each tourist.

I don't think that's a given. Bigelow is projecting a rate of $1M/night
in his orbital hotel; at those prices, I can reasonably expect to take
home not just the towels, but the spacesuit too.


If so, it would help bring economies of scale into spacesuit
production...

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Rodney Kelp wrote:

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So will they be one offs yours to keep after your vacation or the
expensive EMUs and Orlans of space agencies?

For sure they will be less complicated and hopefully tamper proof.

--Chris Vancil

Tourists don't need to do work in space, so the suits may have no fingers.

So what happens if there is a habitat breach and you have to keep your space
suit on for a week. How do you **** and crap not to mention eat. Are there
tubes for all these things? I know some of them have a water tube for
drinking. I don't know about the rest.
Somebody doesn't need to tell me oxygen won't last a week or more. I know
they will have to replenish each other from a bulk supply.


If we have enough commercial spacecraft commonly operating to make
this possible to begin with, then it's unlikely that one would have to
wait as much as a week for rescue. Even without a dedicated equivalent
of a Coast Guard S&R service, someone(s) will always happen to be
preparing for launch, and be able to meet the launch window constraints.

And a well-designed habitat, like a well designed ship, will be able
to close off sections, and keep them habitable, if one of them
experiences a major pressurization failure. (This has already been
demonstrated on Mir, after all.) Rescue may well come from still
functioning portions of this habitat, before it comes from the ground or
other locations in space.

And there's the matter of evacuation 'lifeboats' as covered in other
threads...

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