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Old August 22nd 08, 09:34 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Big plans from the Persians:
http://www.reuters.com/article/world...13323720080821
(cut to scene of Ahmadinejad whipping the launchpad that the failed
satellite booster ascended from.)
Two words: Spartan Spacemen.
Get going, Greece.
Return with that heatshield, or on it. :-)

Pat
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Old August 22nd 08, 09:53 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On Aug 22, 4:34*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Big plans from the Persians:http://www.reuters.com/article/world...13323720080821
(cut to scene of Ahmadinejad whipping the launchpad that the failed
satellite booster ascended from.)
Two words: Spartan Spacemen.
Get going, Greece.
Return with that heatshield, or on it. :-)

Pat


How can they stand it when there were already Pigs in Space?
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Old August 22nd 08, 10:39 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone...
Big plans from the Persians:
http://www.reuters.com/article/world...13323720080821
(cut to scene of Ahmadinejad whipping the launchpad that the failed
satellite booster ascended from.)
Two words: Spartan Spacemen.
Get going, Greece.
Return with that heatshield, or on it. :-)

Pat


Has April Fool's Day come around already? What a load of bull.


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Old August 22nd 08, 11:20 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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"Alan Erskine" wrote in news:GmGrk.30503
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
dakotatelephone...
Big plans from the Persians:
http://www.reuters.com/article/world...13323720080821
(cut to scene of Ahmadinejad whipping the launchpad that the failed
satellite booster ascended from.)
Two words: Spartan Spacemen.
Get going, Greece.
Return with that heatshield, or on it. :-)

Pat


Has April Fool's Day come around already? What a load of bull.


Given the incoherency of Iranian news reporting on almost any
subject, I'd have to agree. The only possibility of an Iranian
astronaut is as a passenger in a Russian Soyuz.

--Damon

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Old August 23rd 08, 01:04 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Alan Erskine wrote:

Has April Fool's Day come around already? What a load of bull.


Beware infidel, for in Iran the bulls have wings:
http://persianempire.info/angro2.jpg

Pat
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Old August 23rd 08, 01:16 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Damon Hill wrote:
Given the incoherency of Iranian news reporting on almost any
subject, I'd have to agree. The only possibility of an Iranian
astronaut is as a passenger in a Russian Soyuz.


If this is actually the base of their satellite booster, it's smaller
than a Jupiter C:
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Internat..._080818_mn.jpg
"A Saturday Aug. 16, 2008 photo taken at an undisclosed location in Iran
which the Fars News Agency claim shows Iranian President Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, second right, looking at an Iranian satellite launching
vehicle. Iran has test launched a rocket it plans to use to carry a
research satellite into orbit, state television reported Sunday.
Saturday's test of the two-stage rocket, called the Safir-e Omid, or
Ambassador of Peace, was successful, state TV said, broadcasting images
of the nighttime launch. The rocket released equipment that beamed
flight data back to ground control, said Reza Taghipoor, the head of
Iran's Space Agency, in a live television interview."

Pat
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Old August 23rd 08, 01:30 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Old August 23rd 08, 03:23 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Damon Hill wrote:
"Alan Erskine" wrote in news:GmGrk.30503
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
thdakotatelephone...

Big plans from the Persians:
http://www.reuters.com/article/world...13323720080821
(cut to scene of Ahmadinejad whipping the launchpad that the failed
satellite booster ascended from.)
Two words: Spartan Spacemen.
Get going, Greece.
Return with that heatshield, or on it. :-)

Pat


Has April Fool's Day come around already? What a load of bull.



Given the incoherency of Iranian news reporting on almost any
subject, I'd have to agree. The only possibility of an Iranian
astronaut is as a passenger in a Russian Soyuz.


Why would they not be able to launch an astronaut in ten years.
They don't have the technology now, but I see no reason why they
wouldn't be able to develop the technology in a decade. It is not
as if they were an uneducated population, they have many bright
engineers.


Alain Fournier
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Old August 23rd 08, 04:02 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Alain Fournier wrote in
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Damon Hill wrote:


Given the incoherency of Iranian news reporting on almost any
subject, I'd have to agree. The only possibility of an Iranian
astronaut is as a passenger in a Russian Soyuz.


Why would they not be able to launch an astronaut in ten years.
They don't have the technology now, but I see no reason why they
wouldn't be able to develop the technology in a decade. It is not
as if they were an uneducated population, they have many bright
engineers.


I don't see the remotest possibility of Iran being capable of
manned spaceflight in this half of the century on their own
resources. Even this rather small and relatively primitive launch
vehicle is mostly based on foreign technology, to say nothing of
creating any sort of manned spacecraft. I doubt Iran would want to
divert the funds and resources to such a questionable project.

But I don't doubt that they badly want a capable ICBM force--probably
the real goal. The rest is just propoganda to impress their
immediate neighbors.

--Damon

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Old August 23rd 08, 11:23 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Damon Hill wrote:
Alain Fournier wrote in
:

Damon Hill wrote:


Given the incoherency of Iranian news reporting on almost any
subject, I'd have to agree. The only possibility of an Iranian
astronaut is as a passenger in a Russian Soyuz.


Why would they not be able to launch an astronaut in ten years.
They don't have the technology now, but I see no reason why they
wouldn't be able to develop the technology in a decade. It is not
as if they were an uneducated population, they have many bright
engineers.


I don't see the remotest possibility of Iran being capable of
manned spaceflight in this half of the century on their own
resources. Even this rather small and relatively primitive launch
vehicle is mostly based on foreign technology, to say nothing of
creating any sort of manned spacecraft. I doubt Iran would want to
divert the funds and resources to such a questionable project.


It isn't such an enormous task that it would drain the resources
of the country. They are not very far from being capable of launching
a satellite. All they need to do is solve the problems with their
current launcher, scale it up a little, and build a capsule to get
their astronauts back. That capsule can be very crude, they aren't
going to the moon or anything they just said they would get an
astronaut in orbit. If they just go twice around they don't need
much life support. All they need is a small retro rocket to initiate
de-orbit and a heat shield. They can have their astronaut open
the hatch at 3 km, come down on parachutes and let the capsule
crash. They have much more engineers available than SpaceX to
do so. If they want to do it they can.

As far as I know it is just the president of Iran that has said
he wanted to put an astronaut in orbit, he is not a dictator with
total power, I don't know if other relevant politicians in Iran
support him on this. Also, over a period of ten years many things
can happen, some other country might decide to drop bombs on them.
But if they do really want to go to space, and nothing catastrophic
happens to them, I see no reason why they couldn't.


Alain Fournier
 




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