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Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighter thantoday's?



 
 
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Old December 23rd 09, 11:05 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
Yousuf Khan
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighter thantoday's?

Star burst | COSMOS magazine
"Simulations developed by supernova expert Stan Woosley, also of UC
Santa Cruz, along with Kasen, Fritz Röpke of the Max Planck Institute
for Astrophysics in Garching, Germany, and others now suggest that
supernovae that erupted a few billion years back in time may be
different - intrinsically brighter - than those exploding today. The
team has begun to identify several other features that may affect the
brightness - such as how rapidly a star rotated before it exploded and
its abundance of elements heavier than helium - which might confound
dark energy measurements if overlooked."
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...rst?page=0%2C1
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Old December 23rd 09, 02:01 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighterthan today's?

On 12/23/09 5:05 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...rst?page=0%2C1


Nice detail article--Important long term work.
Thanks.

-Sam
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Old December 23rd 09, 02:46 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
Yousuf Khan[_2_]
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighterthantoday's?

Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/23/09 5:05 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...rst?page=0%2C1


Nice detail article--Important long term work.
Thanks.

-Sam


And to think that the secret to figuring these supernovae out lay in
internal combustion engine research. :-)

Yousuf Khan
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Old December 23rd 09, 03:35 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighterthantoday's?

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Star burst | COSMOS magazine
"Simulations developed by supernova expert Stan Woosley, also of UC
Santa Cruz, along with Kasen, Fritz Röpke of the Max Planck Institute
for Astrophysics in Garching, Germany, and others now suggest that
supernovae that erupted a few billion years back in time may be
different - intrinsically brighter - than those exploding today. The
team has begun to identify several other features that may affect the
brightness - such as how rapidly a star rotated before it exploded and
its abundance of elements heavier than helium - which might confound
dark energy measurements if overlooked."
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...rst?page=0%2C1


If the need for Dark matter to fudge factor claimed accelerating
expansion of the universe vanishes, do librarians go through Physical
Review with a razor cutter?

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Old December 23rd 09, 08:21 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
eric gisse
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighter than today's?

Yousuf Khan wrote:

[...]

This is good, post more stuff like this.

Given that a Type 1a happens by the detonation [helium flash] of light
elements accumulating on a white dwarf, the initial conditions for the
supernovae are all remarkably similar and have comparatively small parameter
spaces than compared to...every other supernova.
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Old December 23rd 09, 10:51 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
jacob navia[_2_]
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighterthantoday's?

Uncle Al a écrit :

If the need for Dark matter to fudge factor claimed accelerating
expansion of the universe vanishes, do librarians go through Physical
Review with a razor cutter?


Idiot
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Old December 23rd 09, 11:53 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
eric gisse
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Default Were early-generation Type Ia supenovae intrinsically brighter thantoday's?

Uncle Al wrote:

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Star burst | COSMOS magazine
"Simulations developed by supernova expert Stan Woosley, also of UC
Santa Cruz, along with Kasen, Fritz Röpke of the Max Planck Institute
for Astrophysics in Garching, Germany, and others now suggest that
supernovae that erupted a few billion years back in time may be
different - intrinsically brighter - than those exploding today. The
team has begun to identify several other features that may affect the
brightness - such as how rapidly a star rotated before it exploded and
its abundance of elements heavier than helium - which might confound
dark energy measurements if overlooked."
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/featur...rst?page=0%2C1


If the need for Dark matter to fudge factor claimed accelerating
expansion of the universe vanishes, do librarians go through Physical
Review with a razor cutter?


Dark matter is not dark energy, Al.

But regardless...no, but that would make life more interesting if it were
the case that there was a systematic error in the measurements of 1a
supernovae that exactly corresponded to the apparent acceleration of the
universe. It makes it even more interesting if you consider vacuum energy
and the dark energy / dark matter fit (Lambda-CDM) to the CMB in the context
of no accelerated expansion.
 




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