Phuckwit Duck's SR (PDSR)

"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:53 -0800 (PST), train

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On Feb 13, 1:57 am, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:22:27 -0800 (PST), train

wrote:





On Feb 12, 6:09 am, "Androcles" wrote:
"train" wrote in message

The Lunar Rangefinding Retroreflector experiment - is it the same -
could this be a scientific test of the above - however note the width
of the beam - 7 - 20 kilometres

Laser beams are used because they remain tightly focused for large
distances. Nevertheless, there is enough dispersion of the beam that
it is about 7 kilometers in diameter when it reaches the Moon and 20
kilometers in diameter when it returns to Earth. Because of this very
weak signal, observations are made for several hours at a time. By
averaging the signal for this period, the distance to the Moon can be
measured to an accuracy of about 3 centimeters (the average distance
from the Earth to the Moon is about 385,000 kilometers)

This experiment, like every astronomical experiment assiumes that light
speed
is constant.
It is not.
True, the moon's orbit is pretty circular (e = 0.054) but that is enough
to
make quite a difference to the speed of the return pulse.

The whole of astronomy will have to be rewritten when the truth finally
emerges.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missio...periments/lrr/

Henry Wilson...

.......provider of free physics lessons

If the speed of light was not assumed constant how would it affect the
result?
Isn't there a way to test this from the LRR itself?

Variable star brightness curves...they are actually due to fast light
catching
up to slow light.

Photons emitted by orbiting stars bunch together in transit and give the
impression that a star has periodic brightness fluctuations.
....it doesn't.

.... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.
The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the later emitted
fast
photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt) and that produces an
increase
in luminosity, but the gap between fast photons and later emitted slow
photons
increases (dT dt) and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF

Thus the difference in apparent brightness is a measure of distance as
Swan-Leavitt
found empirically, but could not explain.

-- Androcles
........provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:03:24 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:53 -0800 (PST), train

If the speed of light was not assumed constant how would it affect the
result?
Isn't there a way to test this from the LRR itself?

Variable star brightness curves...they are actually due to fast light
catching
up to slow light.

Photons emitted by orbiting stars bunch together in transit and give the
impression that a star has periodic brightness fluctuations.
....it doesn't.

... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.
The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the later emitted
fast
photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt) and that produces an
increase
in luminosity, but the gap between fast photons and later emitted slow
photons
increases (dT dt) and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF

Thus the difference in apparent brightness is a measure of distance as
Swan-Leavitt
found empirically, but could not explain.

-- Androcles
.......provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

I'll give you credit for that disovery....but you still cannot understand
ADoppler shift, which is the greatest astronomical breakthough since the
telescope.


Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons

"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:03:24 -0000, "Androcles"

wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:53 -0800 (PST), train

If the speed of light was not assumed constant how would it affect the
result?
Isn't there a way to test this from the LRR itself?

Variable star brightness curves...they are actually due to fast light
catching
up to slow light.

Photons emitted by orbiting stars bunch together in transit and give the
impression that a star has periodic brightness fluctuations.
....it doesn't.

... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Thus the difference in apparent brightness is a measure of distance as
Swan-Leavitt
found empirically, but could not explain.

-- Androcles
.......provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

I'll give you credit for that disovery....but you still cannot understand
ADoppler shift, which is the greatest astronomical breakthough since the
telescope.

Nobody else can understand you either. That's because you
can't explain how the back end of Awilson's condom passes the
front and propagates backwards, stretching as it goes.
Do VW camper vans turn inside-out when the back end is
accelerated, or do they have front-wheel drive?
--
Androcles
........provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

On Feb 13, 5:53*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in messagenews:ic8en5lled4h8er257q9ua37qn6v6figtm@4ax .com...





On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:03:24 -0000, "Androcles"

wrote:

"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:53 -0800 (PST), train

If the speed of light was not assumed constant how would it affect the
result?
Isn't there a way to test this from the LRR itself?

Variable star brightness curves...they are actually due to fast light
catching
up to slow light.

Photons emitted by orbiting stars bunch together in transit and give the
impression that a star has periodic brightness fluctuations.
....it doesn't.

... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
* *http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Interesting. How does red shift fit in with this?


Thus the difference in apparent brightness is a measure of distance as
Swan-Leavitt
found empirically, but could not explain.

-- Androcles
.......provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

I'll give you credit for that disovery....but you still cannot understand
ADoppler shift, which is the greatest astronomical breakthough since the
telescope.

*Nobody else can understand you either. That's because you
can't explain how the back end of Awilson's condom passes the
front and propagates backwards, stretching as it goes.
Do VW camper vans turn inside-out when the back end is
accelerated, or do they have front-wheel drive?
--
Androcles
.......provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.- Hide quoted text -

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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:32 -0800 (PST), Bruce Richmond
wrote:

On Feb 13, 5:53*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in messagenews:ic8en5lled4h8er257q9ua37qn6v6figtm@4ax .com...



... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
* *http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Interesting. How does red shift fit in with this?

Interesting question....

I don't think there would be a bias. Red and blue shifts should be equally
divided. Maybe red shifts would be observed for longer periods than blue but
blue shifts would be higher on average than red.


Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons

On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:53:35 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:03:24 -0000, "Androcles"

wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
...
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:04:53 -0800 (PST), train

If the speed of light was not assumed constant how would it affect the
result?
Isn't there a way to test this from the LRR itself?

Variable star brightness curves...they are actually due to fast light
catching
up to slow light.

Photons emitted by orbiting stars bunch together in transit and give the
impression that a star has periodic brightness fluctuations.
....it doesn't.

... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Thus the difference in apparent brightness is a measure of distance as
Swan-Leavitt
found empirically, but could not explain.

-- Androcles
.......provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

I'll give you credit for that disovery....but you still cannot understand
ADoppler shift, which is the greatest astronomical breakthough since the
telescope.

Nobody else can understand you either. That's because you
can't explain how the back end of Awilson's condom passes the
front and propagates backwards, stretching as it goes.
Do VW camper vans turn inside-out when the back end is
accelerated, or do they have front-wheel drive?


Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons

"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:32 -0800 (PST), Bruce Richmond

wrote:

On Feb 13, 5:53 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in
messagenews:ic8en5lled4h8er257q9ua37qn6v6figtm@4ax .com...



... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has
an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate
measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Interesting. How does red shift fit in with this?

Interesting question....

I don't think

We all know that, no need to advertise it.

there would be a bias. Red and blue shifts should be equally
divided. Maybe red shifts would be observed for longer periods than blue
but
blue shifts would be higher on average than red.

He's off on his "maybe could be might be" kick again...
dT dt is red shift, dT dt is blue shift - obviously, since f = 1/t.

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:24:40 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:32 -0800 (PST), Bruce Richmond

wrote:

On Feb 13, 5:53 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in
messagenews:ic8en5lled4h8er257q9ua37qn6v6figtm@4ax .com...



... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has
an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate
measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Interesting. How does red shift fit in with this?

Interesting question....

I don't think

We all know that, no need to advertise it.

there would be a bias. Red and blue shifts should be equally
divided. Maybe red shifts would be observed for longer periods than blue
but
blue shifts would be higher on average than red.

He's off on his "maybe could be might be" kick again...
dT dt is red shift, dT dt is blue shift - obviously, since f = 1/t.

why, do you think there would be more redshift than blue? Please explain.

Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons

"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
...
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:24:40 -0000, "Androcles"

wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:36:32 -0800 (PST), Bruce Richmond

wrote:

On Feb 13, 5:53 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in
messagenews:ic8en5lled4h8er257q9ua37qn6v6figtm@4ax .com...



... it doesn't have any intrinsic brightness fluctuation, but it has
an
observed
brightness fluctuation when seen from a distance.

Absolute magnitude is intrinsic but in general cannot be known, only
estimated.
Absolute magnitude divided by apparent magnitude is an approximate
measure
of distance -- see inverse square law.
For cepheid variables, delta magnitude is an approximate measure of
distance --
see Henrietta Swan-Leavitt.

The way it works is the gap between the slow photons and the
later emitted fast photons closes with increasing distance (dT dt)
and that produces an increase in luminosity, but the gap between
fast photons and later emitted slow photons increases (dT dt)
and that produces a decrease in luminosity.
http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF


Interesting. How does red shift fit in with this?

Interesting question....

I don't think

We all know that, no need to advertise it.

there would be a bias. Red and blue shifts should be equally
divided. Maybe red shifts would be observed for longer periods than blue
but
blue shifts would be higher on average than red.

He's off on his "maybe could be might be" kick again...
dT dt is red shift, dT dt is blue shift - obviously, since f = 1/t.

why, do you think there would be more redshift than blue? Please explain.

http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF
Open your ****in' eyes!

http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wendy/Wendy.gif
Accelerated photons (c+v) are drawn longer than decelerated ones (c-v).

....You are starting to sound more like Phuckwit Duck every day......

--
Androcles
........provider of expensive physics lessons Awilson can't afford.

On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:47:48 -0000, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Henry Wilson DSc" ..@.. wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:24:40 -0000, "Androcles"



there would be a bias. Red and blue shifts should be equally
divided. Maybe red shifts would be observed for longer periods than blue
but
blue shifts would be higher on average than red.

He's off on his "maybe could be might be" kick again...
dT dt is red shift, dT dt is blue shift - obviously, since f = 1/t.

why, do you think there would be more redshift than blue? Please explain.

http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doolin'sStar.GIF
Open your ****in' eyes!

there is both red and blue shift. Can you prove there is more red than blue?

http://androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Wendy/Wendy.gif
Accelerated photons (c+v) are drawn longer than decelerated ones (c-v).

That doesn't tell us anything.

...You are starting to sound more like Phuckwit Duck every day......


Henry Wilson...

........provider of free physics lessons