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  #11  
Old February 14th 10, 01:14 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default LHC. Collapse. Again to deadly error with cosmic rays.

BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:38 am, Mark Thorson wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:



Magnetic wrote:
Wait a couple of weeks. It is possible we will survive. I give 50% on
our survival.
I give it around 100%
Are you still going to be spewing this BS when CERN is working at full
energy?

Yes, but he will post under another pseudonym so he
won't have to take responsibility for his earlier
rantings.


If I unloaded a full AK47 magazine of ammo at you, say from 10 yards
and somehow missed; would that count as zero risk for each additional
time I tried to hit my target?


Certainly, because to take the analogy further, you would be firing blanks

What's a double mass proton worth these days?


As much as before - zilch.

--
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  #12  
Old February 14th 10, 06:13 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
BradGuth
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Default LHC. Collapse. Again to deadly error with cosmic rays.

On Feb 13, 4:14*pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:38 am, Mark Thorson wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:


Magnetic wrote:
Wait a couple of weeks. It is possible we will survive. I give 50% on
our survival.
I give it around 100%
Are you still going to be spewing this BS when CERN is working at full
energy?
Yes, but he will post under another pseudonym so he
won't have to take responsibility for his earlier
rantings.


If I unloaded a full AK47 magazine of ammo at you, say from 10 yards
and somehow missed; *would that count as zero risk for each additional
time I tried to hit my target?


Certainly, because to take the analogy further, you would be firing blanks

What's a double mass proton worth these days?


As much as before - zilch.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show


In other words, outside of the usual denial you don't have a clue.

~ BG
  #13  
Old February 14th 10, 06:30 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default LHC. Collapse. Again to deadly error with cosmic rays.

BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 13, 4:14 pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 13, 11:38 am, Mark Thorson wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
Magnetic wrote:
Wait a couple of weeks. It is possible we will survive. I give 50% on
our survival.
I give it around 100%
Are you still going to be spewing this BS when CERN is working at full
energy?
Yes, but he will post under another pseudonym so he
won't have to take responsibility for his earlier
rantings.
If I unloaded a full AK47 magazine of ammo at you, say from 10 yards
and somehow missed; would that count as zero risk for each additional
time I tried to hit my target?

Certainly, because to take the analogy further, you would be firing blanks

What's a double mass proton worth these days?

As much as before - zilch.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show


In other words, outside of the usual denial you don't have a clue.

~ BG


Yeah... nobody in the entire universe except you and Magnet have a clue.
The rest know real physics.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
  #14  
Old February 14th 10, 10:50 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Magnetic
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Default CERN: "Dear citizens, be ready to near death."

Existence of high energy cosmic rays (protons or ions) does not give
any guarantee that the same particle collisions are safe at head-on
colliders.
Indeed “dangerous particle condensate” (Condensate) can be created at
both cases.
It is obvious that Condensate has its rest energy and binding energy.
It was proved that total binding energy of Condensate is smaller than
kinetic energy of atmospheric particles in the system of Condensate,
if it was created by collision of cosmic particle with atmospheric
one. Consequently, cosmo-atmospheric Condensate would be ruined
immediately. But collider Condensate will not be ruined and it can
grow, if this growth is permitted by physical laws.

Till now there were theoretically described several types of
Condensates: pion condensate, stranglet, magnetized vacuum, magnetic
vacuum domain, magnetic holes and so on. In fact, the mentioned types
of condensates are different approximations to one and the same
Condensate, which can be created in Nature or in a physical
experiment. These approximations were grounded on different types of
forces. I tried to investigate Condensate, which is connected
presumably by magnetic forces. Now I can see that my results coincide
quite good with the results, received in the investigations of
Condensate, connected by pions (pion condensate, Migdal), gluon
condensate (Savvidy?), sea quark-antiquark pairs, strange quarks..

The main conclusion: Condensate can be created at particle collision
with energy of about 1-TeV per particle.

It is clear, at least for me, that microscopic droplet of Condensate
will be created very soon at LHC. This can lead to further rapid
explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.

So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as “scientists”.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


  #15  
Old February 14th 10, 04:45 PM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default CERN: "Dear citizens, be ready to near death."

Magnetic wrote:
Existence of high energy cosmic rays (protons or ions) does not give
any guarantee that the same particle collisions are safe at head-on
colliders.
Indeed “dangerous particle condensate” (Condensate) can be created at
both cases.
It is obvious that Condensate has its rest energy and binding energy.
It was proved that total binding energy of Condensate is smaller than
kinetic energy of atmospheric particles in the system of Condensate,
if it was created by collision of cosmic particle with atmospheric
one. Consequently, cosmo-atmospheric Condensate would be ruined
immediately. But collider Condensate will not be ruined and it can
grow, if this growth is permitted by physical laws.

Till now there were theoretically described several types of
Condensates: pion condensate, stranglet, magnetized vacuum, magnetic
vacuum domain, magnetic holes and so on. In fact, the mentioned types
of condensates are different approximations to one and the same
Condensate, which can be created in Nature or in a physical
experiment. These approximations were grounded on different types of
forces. I tried to investigate Condensate, which is connected
presumably by magnetic forces. Now I can see that my results coincide
quite good with the results, received in the investigations of
Condensate, connected by pions (pion condensate, Migdal), gluon
condensate (Savvidy?), sea quark-antiquark pairs, strange quarks..

The main conclusion: Condensate can be created at particle collision
with energy of about 1-TeV per particle.

It is clear, at least for me, that microscopic droplet of Condensate
will be created very soon at LHC. This can lead to further rapid
explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.

So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as “scientists”.

http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


All you lack is the mathematics eh?


--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
  #16  
Old February 15th 10, 10:24 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Magnetic
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Default CERN: "Dear citizens, be ready to near death."

On Feb 14, 5:45*pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
wrote:
Magnetic wrote:
Existence of high energy cosmic rays (protons or ions) does not give
any guarantee that the same particle collisions are safe at head-on
colliders.
Indeed “dangerous particle condensate” (Condensate) can be created at
both cases.
It is obvious that Condensate has its rest energy and binding energy.
It was proved that total binding energy of Condensate is smaller than
kinetic energy of atmospheric particles in the system of Condensate,
if it was created by collision of cosmic particle with atmospheric
one. Consequently, cosmo-atmospheric Condensate would be ruined
immediately. But collider Condensate will not be ruined and it can
grow, if this growth is permitted by physical laws.


Till now there were theoretically described several types of
Condensates: pion condensate, stranglet, magnetized vacuum, magnetic
vacuum domain, magnetic holes and so on. In fact, the mentioned types
of condensates are different approximations to one and the same
Condensate, which can be created in Nature or in a physical
experiment. These approximations were grounded on different types of
forces. I tried to investigate Condensate, which is connected
presumably by magnetic forces. Now I can see that my results coincide
quite good with the results, received in the investigations of
Condensate, connected by pions (pion condensate, Migdal), gluon
condensate (Savvidy?), sea quark-antiquark pairs, strange quarks..


The main conclusion: Condensate can be created at particle collision
with energy of about 1-TeV per particle.


It is clear, at least for me, that microscopic droplet of Condensate
will be created very soon at LHC. This can lead to further rapid
explosion of Earth and extermination of our Civilization. Particle
physicists will not stop their experiments, because the stop of these
high-energy experiments will mean that they do recognize that these
collisions are really dangerous for the whole Earth. The recognition
of the danger will mean that most of particle physicists are already
criminals or global terrorists, - they did not stop their dangerous
experiments despite court cases and disputes, lasting nearly ten
years.


So, dear citizens, be ready to near death. You all will be murdered
soon by criminals, who name themselves as “scientists”.


http://darkenergy.narod.ru/


All you lack is the mathematics eh?

--
Dirk


Dirk, you can not understand my mathematics and that is your problem.
- - -

Brian Cox: “Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a
****”. Source: THE BLACK HOLE CASE: THE INJUNCTION AGAINST THE END OF
THE WORLD. Eric E. Johnson. Page 858. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.5480.pdf

I give 50% that in a several days CERN will create a “new quark-gluon
phase” of vacuum. This microscopic magnetized droplet of vacuum
(magnetic hole) will lead to magnetic collapse (x-boson condensation)
of ordinary matter on it and to explosion of Earth.
Take Brian Cox as hostage. If CERN would not stop their experiments
cut off the Brian's head.
He named your savers as "****s".

  #17  
Old February 16th 10, 08:57 AM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Magnetic
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Default CERN: "Dear citizens, be ready to near death." CENR leader andother criminals do not come to my town. You are banned here forever, notdepending from the results of the LHC experiment.

CENR leader and other criminals do not come to my town. You are banned
here forever, not depending from the results of the LHC experiment.

Between Mars and Jupiter there was a planet, which was probably
exploded with the help of collider. Now there is an asteroid belt
there.

In a week or slightly more CERN physicists can transform the Earth
into new asteroid belt.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates.

Somebody asks: “Ivan, how does a magnetic hole turn a whole planet
into an asteroid belt?”

Magnetic hole grows by millions times more rapidly than black hole. It
captures protons, ruins them onto x-bosons and positrons, swallows x-
bosons and becomes bigger; eject positrons, releasing the energy,
which is equivalent to 1/3 of rest energy of proton per each act of
induced proton decay.
Let’s suppose that magnetic hole had already ruined the hundredth part
of the Earths internal core. Then the external core of the Earth will
receive the energy in the form of heat Q = (M/(3*100))*c^2. This heat
will transform the internal core’s matter from liquid state into hot
plasma. The pressure of this plasma will be so great that the Earth’s
radius will grow with acceleration. The thickness of the Earth’s
mantle and crust will become smaller. At last Earth’s surface will be
torn on peaces and start into cosmos. These filaments will be
accelerated further by plasma wind, occurring from the central region
there the magnetic hole continue to capture the rarefying plasma
matter.
I can say without any computation that about of 1/100 of Earths matter
will be captured by magnetic hole; 1/10 of Earths matter will form the
new asteroid belt; the rest of Earth’s matter will leave the Solar
system with high velocity in the form of hot plasma.
If magnetic hole will be captured by the solar magnetic field, then
the Sun will undergo an explosion as supernova or several successive
explosions as nova.
From the other had, it is not excluded, that the magnetic hole will be
thrown out from the Solar system by magnetic forces, soon after the
Earth collaptical explosion.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates, if you will be happy to enter into that 1/10 of Earth’s
matter, which had formed the new asteroid belt.

.. . .
3. Explosions of oil and gas pipes, leading to Europe.
.. . .
I would be performed the third point, but I have no sufficient money
and time to buy explosives and to hire performers.

Somebody wrote: “Ivan, take a credit in a bank”.

It is better to stole a huge tractor; catch a tube by a still rope and
broke the tube. Let they froze a little there in Europe, let they seat
without an electricity light a little, - may by they get a brain a
little into their empty heads.

.. . .

There were even Nobel Prize winners, who had said about the dangers
from collider particle collisions. They were also unable to stop the
LHC experiment.

Somebody asks: “Who?”

Here is a quote from the bottom of the page http://www.lhcfacts.org/

Quote:
Nobel winning scientist Frank Wilczek recently joked
(paraphrase) “If this does cause the end of the world, I will not only
be very surprised but very embarrassed!”
I would say “If the Earth will survive the 7 TeV (per article)
experiment at head-on colliders, I will be surprised, because I give
30% on survival and 70% on explosion. If we survive at 3.5 TeV
experiment I will not be surprised, not be embarrassed, because I give
at these energies 50/50 probabilities.

In any case the crime is already committed. Criminals will be
criminals forever, not depending from the results of the experiment,
because they had already risked by our lives, and they continue to
threaten the humanity survival. I decla “CERN leaders and other LHC
promoters, do not come to my town. You are my first enemies forever,
and I can not give any guarantee that you will survive here.”
  #18  
Old February 16th 10, 03:03 PM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default CERN: "Dear citizens, be ready to near death." CENR leader andother criminals do not come to my town. You are banned here forever, notdepending from the results of the LHC experiment.

Magnetic wrote:
CENR leader and other criminals do not come to my town. You are banned
here forever, not depending from the results of the LHC experiment.

Between Mars and Jupiter there was a planet, which was probably
exploded with the help of collider. Now there is an asteroid belt
there.

In a week or slightly more CERN physicists can transform the Earth
into new asteroid belt.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates.

Somebody asks: “Ivan, how does a magnetic hole turn a whole planet
into an asteroid belt?”

Magnetic hole grows by millions times more rapidly than black hole. It
captures protons, ruins them onto x-bosons and positrons, swallows x-
bosons and becomes bigger; eject positrons, releasing the energy,
which is equivalent to 1/3 of rest energy of proton per each act of
induced proton decay.
Let’s suppose that magnetic hole had already ruined the hundredth part
of the Earths internal core. Then the external core of the Earth will
receive the energy in the form of heat Q = (M/(3*100))*c^2. This heat
will transform the internal core’s matter from liquid state into hot
plasma. The pressure of this plasma will be so great that the Earth’s
radius will grow with acceleration. The thickness of the Earth’s
mantle and crust will become smaller. At last Earth’s surface will be
torn on peaces and start into cosmos. These filaments will be
accelerated further by plasma wind, occurring from the central region
there the magnetic hole continue to capture the rarefying plasma
matter.
I can say without any computation that about of 1/100 of Earths matter
will be captured by magnetic hole; 1/10 of Earths matter will form the
new asteroid belt; the rest of Earth’s matter will leave the Solar
system with high velocity in the form of hot plasma.
If magnetic hole will be captured by the solar magnetic field, then
the Sun will undergo an explosion as supernova or several successive
explosions as nova.
From the other had, it is not excluded, that the magnetic hole will be
thrown out from the Solar system by magnetic forces, soon after the
Earth collaptical explosion.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates, if you will be happy to enter into that 1/10 of Earth’s
matter, which had formed the new asteroid belt.

. . .
3. Explosions of oil and gas pipes, leading to Europe.
. . .
I would be performed the third point, but I have no sufficient money
and time to buy explosives and to hire performers.

Somebody wrote: “Ivan, take a credit in a bank”.

It is better to stole a huge tractor; catch a tube by a still rope and
broke the tube. Let they froze a little there in Europe, let they seat
without an electricity light a little, - may by they get a brain a
little into their empty heads.

. . .

There were even Nobel Prize winners, who had said about the dangers
from collider particle collisions. They were also unable to stop the
LHC experiment.

Somebody asks: “Who?”

Here is a quote from the bottom of the page http://www.lhcfacts.org/

Quote:
Nobel winning scientist Frank Wilczek recently joked
(paraphrase) “If this does cause the end of the world, I will not only
be very surprised but very embarrassed!”
I would say “If the Earth will survive the 7 TeV (per article)
experiment at head-on colliders, I will be surprised, because I give
30% on survival and 70% on explosion. If we survive at 3.5 TeV
experiment I will not be surprised, not be embarrassed, because I give
at these energies 50/50 probabilities.

In any case the crime is already committed. Criminals will be
criminals forever, not depending from the results of the experiment,
because they had already risked by our lives, and they continue to
threaten the humanity survival. I decla “CERN leaders and other LHC
promoters, do not come to my town. You are my first enemies forever,
and I can not give any guarantee that you will survive here.”


I think at this point even Brad Guth is backing off in embarrassment


--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
  #19  
Old February 16th 10, 07:12 PM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Magnetic
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Default People, you will be killed in a several days by CERN physicists.

On Feb 16, 4:03*pm, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
wrote:
Magnetic wrote:
CENR leader and other criminals do not come to my town. You are banned
here forever, not depending from the results of the LHC experiment.


Between Mars and Jupiter there was a planet, which was probably
exploded with the help of collider. Now there is an asteroid belt
there.


In a week or slightly more CERN physicists can transform the Earth
into new asteroid belt.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates.


Somebody asks: “Ivan, how does a magnetic hole turn a whole planet
into an asteroid belt?”


Magnetic hole grows by millions times more rapidly than black hole. It
captures protons, ruins them onto x-bosons and positrons, swallows x-
bosons and becomes bigger; eject positrons, releasing the energy,
which is equivalent to 1/3 of rest energy of proton per each act of
induced proton decay.
Let’s suppose that magnetic hole had already ruined the hundredth part
of the Earths internal core. Then the external core of the Earth will
receive the energy in the form of heat Q = (M/(3*100))*c^2. This heat
will transform the internal core’s matter from liquid state into hot
plasma. The pressure of this plasma will be so great that the Earth’s
radius will grow with acceleration. The thickness of the Earth’s
mantle and crust will become smaller. At last Earth’s surface will be
torn on peaces and start into cosmos. These filaments will be
accelerated further by plasma wind, occurring from the central region
there the magnetic hole continue to capture the rarefying plasma
matter.
I can say without any computation that about of 1/100 of Earths matter
will be captured by magnetic hole; 1/10 of Earths matter will form the
new asteroid belt; the rest of Earth’s matter will leave the Solar
system with high velocity in the form of hot plasma.
If magnetic hole will be captured by the solar magnetic field, then
the Sun will undergo an explosion as supernova or several successive
explosions as nova.
From the other had, it is not excluded, that the magnetic hole will be
thrown out from the Solar system by magnetic forces, soon after the
Earth collaptical explosion.
In a billion years your remnants will drop at the decks of Venues
pirates, if you will be happy to enter into that 1/10 of Earth’s
matter, which had formed the new asteroid belt.


. . .
3. Explosions of oil and gas pipes, leading to Europe.
. . .
I would be performed the third point, but I have no sufficient money
and time to buy explosives and to hire performers.


Somebody wrote: “Ivan, take a credit in a bank”.


It is better to stole a huge tractor; catch a tube by a still rope and
broke the tube. Let they froze a little there in Europe, let they seat
without an electricity light a little, - may by they get a brain a
little into their empty heads.


. . .


There were even Nobel Prize winners, who had said about the dangers
from collider particle collisions. They were also unable to stop the
LHC experiment.


Somebody asks: “Who?”


Here is a quote from the bottom of the pagehttp://www.lhcfacts.org/


Quote:
Nobel winning scientist Frank Wilczek recently joked
(paraphrase) “If this does cause the end of the world, I will not only
be very surprised but very embarrassed!”
I would say “If the Earth will survive the 7 TeV (per article)
experiment at head-on colliders, I will be surprised, because I give
30% on survival and 70% on explosion. If we survive at 3.5 TeV
experiment I will not be surprised, not be embarrassed, because I give
at these energies 50/50 probabilities.


In any case the crime is already committed. Criminals will be
criminals forever, not depending from the results of the experiment,
because they had already risked by our lives, and they continue to
threaten the humanity survival. I decla “CERN leaders and other LHC
promoters, do not come to my town. You are my first enemies forever,
and I can not give any guarantee that you will survive here.”


I think at this point even Brad Guth is backing off in embarrassment

--
Dirk


People, you will be killed in a several days by CERN physicists.

Ivan.
  #20  
Old February 16th 10, 07:37 PM posted to sci.physics.electromag,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,sci.astro,sci.chem
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Default People, you will be killed in a several days by CERN physicists.

Magnetic wrote:


People, you will be killed in a several days by CERN physicists.


Lucky escape given my credit card debt.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
 




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