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Old October 25th 03, 09:24 AM
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Go to http://www.spaceweather.com and catch the latest news on the two
giant 'Jupiter sized' sunspots which are crossing the sun's
photosphere.

The kind of activity going on is precisely the kind of activity that if
increased several fold could easily trigger the onset of a rapid
magnetic pole reversal sequence for the Earth.

Mankind must be prepared to face the horror story of all of the violent
and rapid geological changes which must ensue as a function of a mode
change of the Earth's Electromagnetotoroid (EMT) from the large scale E
loop mode which displays the features of a magnetic dipole to the H
loop mode which will display the features of a large scale electric
dipole.

CCRyder

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Old October 25th 03, 12:57 PM
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Rushed out to my local camping store to buy a pocket compass.
Anxiously watching the needle.


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Old October 25th 03, 12:57 PM
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Rushed out to my local camping store to buy a pocket compass.
Anxiously watching the needle.


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Old October 25th 03, 07:34 PM
David Knisely
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Somebody posted:

The kind of activity going on is precisely the kind of activity that if
increased several fold could easily trigger the onset of a rapid
magnetic pole reversal sequence for the Earth.


Wrong. This kind of activity has been happening for centuries. It has little
if any effect on the internally-generated portion of the Earth's magnetic
field. A strong geomagnetic storm will cause variations in the measured
strength of the field up here, but down inside the Earth, the effects of the
storm will be negligable.

Mankind must be prepared to face the horror story of all of the violent
and rapid geological changes which must ensue as a function of a mode
change of the Earth's Electromagnetotoroid (EMT) from the large scale E
loop mode which displays the features of a magnetic dipole to the H
loop mode which will display the features of a large scale electric
dipole.


Ah, yes, another fear monger (you wouldn't be related to a certain "Cagle" now
would you?).
--
David W. Knisely
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http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org
Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/

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Old October 25th 03, 07:34 PM
David Knisely
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Somebody posted:

The kind of activity going on is precisely the kind of activity that if
increased several fold could easily trigger the onset of a rapid
magnetic pole reversal sequence for the Earth.


Wrong. This kind of activity has been happening for centuries. It has little
if any effect on the internally-generated portion of the Earth's magnetic
field. A strong geomagnetic storm will cause variations in the measured
strength of the field up here, but down inside the Earth, the effects of the
storm will be negligable.

Mankind must be prepared to face the horror story of all of the violent
and rapid geological changes which must ensue as a function of a mode
change of the Earth's Electromagnetotoroid (EMT) from the large scale E
loop mode which displays the features of a magnetic dipole to the H
loop mode which will display the features of a large scale electric
dipole.


Ah, yes, another fear monger (you wouldn't be related to a certain "Cagle" now
would you?).
--
David W. Knisely
Prairie Astronomy Club:
http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org
Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/

**********************************************
* Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY *
* July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir *
* http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org *
**********************************************



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Old October 26th 03, 01:36 AM
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In article 1067106892.689938@cache2, David Knisely
wrote:

Somebody posted:

The kind of activity going on is precisely the kind of activity that if
increased several fold could easily trigger the onset of a rapid
magnetic pole reversal sequence for the Earth.


Wrong. This kind of activity has been happening for centuries.


That's not true. These are unusually big sunspots. And as I stated
'if increased several fold' then there would be cause for concern.

It has little if any effect on the internally-generated portion of the
Earth's magnetic field. A strong geomagnetic storm will cause
variations in the measured strength of the field up here, but down
inside the Earth, the effects of the storm will be negligable.


Utter blustery nonsense. In fact, the dynamics of the generation of
the Earth's magnetic field is not known by the general community of
geophysicists. Even less is known about the processes which cause a
dipole reversal sequence to begin to take place. For you to stand
forth and pontificate otherwise is dishonest as well as irresponsible.
I've spent years studying the physics of flux loop structures, the
mechanism for their generation and have discovered the mechanism for
the mode change of one type of flux loop into the other. You don't see
the danger because you haven't a clue as to the underlying physics.
The reality is that several violent solar flares in rapid succession,
perhaps coupled with the impact upon the Earth's primary
electromagnetotoroid of a squarely aimed Coronal Mass Ejection, could,
in fact, stimulate the Earth's EMT into undergoing a fairly rapid mode
change. That you remain ignorant of the basic physics of flux loop
systems is quite understandable but that you pretend to an
understanding of the Earth's magnetic field so as to attempt to assure
people that there's nothing to worry about is beyond rational
comprehension. You assume that this just an opportunity for you to
start a ****ing contest, Knisely. In fact, it should be an opportunity
for you to learn something. But then how is it that you could learn
anything when you have given the impression that you already know
everything?

Of course, I'm Charles Cagle. Changing my email address was an attempt
to shed myself of spam, not an attempt at disguising my identity.

CCRyder


Mankind must be prepared to face the horror story of all of the violent
and rapid geological changes which must ensue as a function of a mode
change of the Earth's Electromagnetotoroid (EMT) from the large scale E
loop mode which displays the features of a magnetic dipole to the H
loop mode which will display the features of a large scale electric
dipole.


Ah, yes, another fear monger (you wouldn't be related to a certain "Cagle" now
would you?).


Fear monger? I'm not selling it. People should be concerned with the
greatly devastating geological changes which will accompany a mode
change of the Earth's EMT.

There are perhaps a billion or more Christians in the world and the
prophecies of Christ (and Isaiah and others) as to the coming
devastation of the Day of Wrath are or should be of immediate concern
to many of them. Clearly predicted is a violent solar maximum, solar
scorching of the Earth's surface, giant Earthquakes, Tsunamis, the
rapid descent of whole mountain chains, the rapid rise of other new
mountain systems. In fact, the violence of these coming events will
probably kill two thirds of mankind. If people can take some
preparatory action that might enhance their chances for survival then
you shouldn't try to thwart any warning that is given to them.

Of course, you don't believe that you will be held responsible for any
of your actions, but nevertheless you will be. Hold your peace, David,
and make things easier on yourself.

CCRyder


'to email replace the 'y' with an 'i' in Ryder.
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Old October 26th 03, 01:36 AM
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In article 1067106892.689938@cache2, David Knisely
wrote:

Somebody posted:

The kind of activity going on is precisely the kind of activity that if
increased several fold could easily trigger the onset of a rapid
magnetic pole reversal sequence for the Earth.


Wrong. This kind of activity has been happening for centuries.


That's not true. These are unusually big sunspots. And as I stated
'if increased several fold' then there would be cause for concern.

It has little if any effect on the internally-generated portion of the
Earth's magnetic field. A strong geomagnetic storm will cause
variations in the measured strength of the field up here, but down
inside the Earth, the effects of the storm will be negligable.


Utter blustery nonsense. In fact, the dynamics of the generation of
the Earth's magnetic field is not known by the general community of
geophysicists. Even less is known about the processes which cause a
dipole reversal sequence to begin to take place. For you to stand
forth and pontificate otherwise is dishonest as well as irresponsible.
I've spent years studying the physics of flux loop structures, the
mechanism for their generation and have discovered the mechanism for
the mode change of one type of flux loop into the other. You don't see
the danger because you haven't a clue as to the underlying physics.
The reality is that several violent solar flares in rapid succession,
perhaps coupled with the impact upon the Earth's primary
electromagnetotoroid of a squarely aimed Coronal Mass Ejection, could,
in fact, stimulate the Earth's EMT into undergoing a fairly rapid mode
change. That you remain ignorant of the basic physics of flux loop
systems is quite understandable but that you pretend to an
understanding of the Earth's magnetic field so as to attempt to assure
people that there's nothing to worry about is beyond rational
comprehension. You assume that this just an opportunity for you to
start a ****ing contest, Knisely. In fact, it should be an opportunity
for you to learn something. But then how is it that you could learn
anything when you have given the impression that you already know
everything?

Of course, I'm Charles Cagle. Changing my email address was an attempt
to shed myself of spam, not an attempt at disguising my identity.

CCRyder


Mankind must be prepared to face the horror story of all of the violent
and rapid geological changes which must ensue as a function of a mode
change of the Earth's Electromagnetotoroid (EMT) from the large scale E
loop mode which displays the features of a magnetic dipole to the H
loop mode which will display the features of a large scale electric
dipole.


Ah, yes, another fear monger (you wouldn't be related to a certain "Cagle" now
would you?).


Fear monger? I'm not selling it. People should be concerned with the
greatly devastating geological changes which will accompany a mode
change of the Earth's EMT.

There are perhaps a billion or more Christians in the world and the
prophecies of Christ (and Isaiah and others) as to the coming
devastation of the Day of Wrath are or should be of immediate concern
to many of them. Clearly predicted is a violent solar maximum, solar
scorching of the Earth's surface, giant Earthquakes, Tsunamis, the
rapid descent of whole mountain chains, the rapid rise of other new
mountain systems. In fact, the violence of these coming events will
probably kill two thirds of mankind. If people can take some
preparatory action that might enhance their chances for survival then
you shouldn't try to thwart any warning that is given to them.

Of course, you don't believe that you will be held responsible for any
of your actions, but nevertheless you will be. Hold your peace, David,
and make things easier on yourself.

CCRyder


'to email replace the 'y' with an 'i' in Ryder.
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Old October 26th 03, 01:39 AM
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In article , Ronald Alpiar
wrote:

Rushed out to my local camping store to buy a pocket compass.
Anxiously watching the needle.


You did nothing of the kind. Why lie? Now many people will realize
that you cannot be relied upon to tell the truth.

CCRyder
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Old October 26th 03, 01:39 AM
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In article , Ronald Alpiar
wrote:

Rushed out to my local camping store to buy a pocket compass.
Anxiously watching the needle.


You did nothing of the kind. Why lie? Now many people will realize
that you cannot be relied upon to tell the truth.

CCRyder
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Old October 26th 03, 05:16 AM
David Knisely
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Some fear monger wrote:

That's not true. These are unusually big sunspots. And as I stated
'if increased several fold' then there would be cause for concern.


Obviously you have little experience with observing sunspots. There are a
number of groups in observational history which are on the same order of size
as the ones currently active.

Utter blustery nonsense.


Yup, that is what you are spouting "Chuckie". Another entry for the killfile.


--
David W. Knisely
Prairie Astronomy Club:
http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org
Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/

**********************************************
* Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY *
* July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir *
* http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org *
**********************************************


 




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