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  #31  
Old May 13th 17, 05:32 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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JF Mezei wrote:

On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote:

A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had.


Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February
they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that
consideration.


'Considering' at the direction of the White House is not a 'plan'.


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Old May 13th 17, 05:38 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Jeff Findley wrote:

In article om,
says...

On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote:

A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had.


Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February
they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that
consideration.


This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see
that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally
stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in
space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested


From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020
and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional
dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have
to fly manned.


Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on
Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a
service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal
systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a
"complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed
since it will be uncrewed.


One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I
think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that
will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support
system.


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man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
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  #33  
Old May 15th 17, 12:26 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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Default NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide

On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 12:38:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:

In article om,
says...

On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote:

A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had.

Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February
they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that
consideration.


This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see
that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally
stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in
space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested


From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020
and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional
dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have
to fly manned.


Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on
Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a
service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal
systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a
"complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed
since it will be uncrewed.


One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I
think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that
will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support
system.


--
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore,
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
--George Bernard Shaw


trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ment/22085951/
  #34  
Old May 15th 17, 09:51 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide

bob haller wrote:

On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 12:38:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote:

In article om,
says...

On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote:

A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had.

Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February
they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that
consideration.


This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see
that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally
stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in
space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested


From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020
and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional
dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have
to fly manned.


Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on
Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a
service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal
systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a
"complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed
since it will be uncrewed.


One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I
think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that
will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support
system.


trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ment/22085951/


You're insane and that topic is irrelevant here. Gee, a left wing law
professor wants Trump impeached. Imagine that. Pity he has no say in
the matter, isn't it?


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
  #39  
Old May 17th 17, 12:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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Default NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide

you dont realize the historic nature of all this. its right up there with watergate.....

will trump admit defeat or resign?

either way he is out of office.

mc masters tries to keep trump on track by having key words, to warn the president to stop before disclosing anything more dangerous.
  #40  
Old May 17th 17, 08:59 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide

bob haller wrote:

you dont realize the historic nature of all this. its right up there with watergate.....


You don't realize that THIS IS NOT SPACE RELATED AND YOU SHOULD STFU.


will trump admit defeat or resign?

either way he is out of office.


Stop masturbating and put down the tweezers. Just how do you think
that's going to happen? He's pretty much impeachment-proof until
2020.


mc masters tries to keep trump on track by having key words, to warn the president to stop before disclosing anything more dangerous.


Bobbert is delusional.


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"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
 




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