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NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide
JF Mezei wrote:
On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote: A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had. Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that consideration. 'Considering' at the direction of the White House is not a 'plan'. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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Jeff Findley wrote:
In article om, says... On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote: A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had. Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that consideration. This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020 and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have to fly manned. Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a "complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed since it will be uncrewed. One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support system. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw |
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On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 12:38:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Jeff Findley wrote: In article om, says... On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote: A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had. Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that consideration. This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020 and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have to fly manned. Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a "complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed since it will be uncrewed. One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support system. -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." --George Bernard Shaw trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ment/22085951/ |
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bob haller wrote:
On Saturday, May 13, 2017 at 12:38:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote: Jeff Findley wrote: In article om, says... On 2017-05-12 17:12, Fred J. McCall wrote: A bit tough for them to drop plans that they never had. Read the text opf the press release. It confirms that since February they were considering making EM-1 crewed. Now that formally end that consideration. This "idea" came from the new Administration, not NASA. I'm glad to see that the engineers and NASA management realized what a monumentally stupid thing it would be to put people inside a capsule never tested in space on top of a launch vehicle that had never been flight tested From what I've read they would have had to slide the flight to 2020 and needed anywhere from half a billion to a billion additional dollars to pull various things left that they absolutely had to have to fly manned. Yes, I remember that "Orion" has "flown" once, but that Orion test on Delta IV Heavy was more boilerplate than Orion capsule since it lacked a service module, real escape tower, and many of the critical internal systems needed to keep a crew alive. EM-1 is the first test of a "complete" Orion and even then it will lack certain systems not needed since it will be uncrewed. One of these 'missing' systems is apparently the life support, which I think is a bad idea. They need to fly unmanned with some payload that will 'consume' consumables in order to test out the life support system. trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ment/22085951/ You're insane and that topic is irrelevant here. Gee, a left wing law professor wants Trump impeached. Imagine that. Pity he has no say in the matter, isn't it? -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is only stupid." -- Heinrich Heine |
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On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment Bob this is clearly off-topic. Keep this crap off sci.space! You want to talk politics? There are other Usenet Newsgroups to do it in. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. look trump asked comey to not investagate mike flynn. this is being covered on all the major media. with days or ven hours trump will be replaced as president....... thats real news. mike pence may shut down major parts of nasa, we really dont know... in any case anyone is better than trump........... |
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bob haller wrote:
On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 1:32:37 PM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote: In article , says... trumps time as president is coming to a close. most likely endimg in impeachment Bob this is clearly off-topic. Keep this crap off sci.space! You want to talk politics? There are other Usenet Newsgroups to do it in. look trump asked comey to not investagate mike flynn. this is being covered on all the major media. look bobbert spewed politics inappropriately and has been repeatedly asked to refrain. with days or ven hours trump will be replaced as president....... thats real news. That's a Trump Derangement Syndrome wet dream. Stop jerking off and put down the tweezers. mike pence may shut down major parts of nasa, we really dont know... in any case anyone is better than trump........... Not you, because you are stupid and innumerate. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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NASA Announces SLS/Orion Flight Slide
you dont realize the historic nature of all this. its right up there with watergate.....
will trump admit defeat or resign? either way he is out of office. mc masters tries to keep trump on track by having key words, to warn the president to stop before disclosing anything more dangerous. |
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bob haller wrote:
you dont realize the historic nature of all this. its right up there with watergate..... You don't realize that THIS IS NOT SPACE RELATED AND YOU SHOULD STFU. will trump admit defeat or resign? either way he is out of office. Stop masturbating and put down the tweezers. Just how do you think that's going to happen? He's pretty much impeachment-proof until 2020. mc masters tries to keep trump on track by having key words, to warn the president to stop before disclosing anything more dangerous. Bobbert is delusional. -- "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is only stupid." -- Heinrich Heine |
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