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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:18:32 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker" wrote: What really gripes me is once we got there why didn't we set up habitats for further research and build observertories on the dark side. SDI then ISS took precedence. Very unfortunate. SDI does not prevent nukes from being brought in by UPS and planted secretly. ISS is a piece of ****. I refer to it as ISS Alpha ****can One. Everytime I see -2001: A Space Odessy- I weep from frustration. Bob Kolker |
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You left out the entire microelectronics revolution and the computer. Then there's communications - satellites, etc. The phone company (the real Bell) funded that. Much of the unmanned program is about lofting communication sattelites which has nothing to do with going to moon or military applications. It is the only aspect of our space program that makes any economic sense. NASA is a piece of **** corrupt organization. The only bright folks left are the ones doing exploratory unmanned stuff. Manned space development by organizations like NASA is ka ka. Bob Kolker |
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:57:58 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
wrote: SDI does not prevent nukes from being brought in by UPS and planted secretly. Indeed. ISS is a piece of ****. I refer to it as ISS Alpha ****can One. Everytime I see -2001: A Space Odessy- I weep from frustration. Living in Houston I hear a lot of stories about JSC. Many have to do with the NASA employees sitting around most of the day reading the newpaper and drinking coffee. They spend the rest of the day attending meetings. The only people who actually do any work are contractors. -- "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." --Ronald Reagan |
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:01:08 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker"
wrote: Bob wrote: You left out the entire microelectronics revolution and the computer. Then there's communications - satellites, etc. The phone company (the real Bell) funded that. Much of the unmanned program is about lofting communication sattelites which has nothing to do with going to moon or military applications. It is the only aspect of our space program that makes any economic sense. NASA is a piece of **** corrupt organization. The only bright folks left are the ones doing exploratory unmanned stuff. Manned space development by organizations like NASA is ka ka. While I agree with most of what you just said, you are a bit too harsh. NASA did do some important work on communications - or I should say NASA funded private contractors to do the real work. And there is no doubt that NASA was the primary sponsor of the microelectronics and computer revolutions. And the satellite programs definitely had military applications even if the main purpose was civilian communications. An important rule of our fascist dictatorship is that the Military Industrial Complex does not miss a trick. Just remember that throughout history man has always used new technology for military purposes first. -- "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." --Ronald Reagan |
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Bob wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:01:08 -0500, "Robert J. Kolker" wrote: Bob wrote: You left out the entire microelectronics revolution and the computer. Then there's communications - satellites, etc. The phone company (the real Bell) funded that. Much of the unmanned program is about lofting communication sattelites which has nothing to do with going to moon or military applications. It is the only aspect of our space program that makes any economic sense. NASA is a piece of **** corrupt organization. The only bright folks left are the ones doing exploratory unmanned stuff. Manned space development by organizations like NASA is ka ka. While I agree with most of what you just said, you are a bit too harsh. NASA did do some important work on communications - or I should say NASA funded private contractors to do the real work. And there is no doubt that NASA was the primary sponsor of the microelectronics and computer revolutions. And the satellite programs definitely had military applications even if the main purpose was civilian communications. An important rule of our fascist dictatorship is that the Military Industrial Complex does not miss a trick. Just remember that throughout history man has always used new technology for military purposes first. Bob, it would appear that friend kolker wants to be a troll. He seems blithely indifferent to facts, or reason, preferring "ka ka" over spin offs. He really sounds like one of those ridiculous dianics that I am forced to deal with at certain conventions. the other Bob |
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Bob wrote:
Living in Houston I hear a lot of stories about JSC. Many have to do with the NASA employees sitting around most of the day reading the newpaper and drinking coffee. They spend the rest of the day attending meetings. The only people who actually do any work are contractors. People like Morton Thiakol personel. Wonderful. When NASA sat on them, they folded and let Challanger fly. We all know what happened after that. NASA is a rotten corrupt organization and should be abolished. Bob Kolker |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Rand Simberg" wrote in message ... All that meant was that they issued some feasibility study contracts. NASA does this all the time with many things that never happen (in fact, most of the time, the project fails to go forward). It means the Apollo project existed at an earlier date than JFK would have been in a position to initiate it, thus it means that JFK did not initiate the Apollo project. *However*, at the time of its creation, Project Apollo was *not* a project to land on the moon. It was the next-generation spacecraft, which later was chosen to be the moon ship. Kennedy didn't announce that NASA would build a new spaceship, but he *did* announce the trip to the moon. NASA chose to adapt an existing project into the new one, so Kennedy *is* responsible for getting us to the moon. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net... "Rand Simberg" wrote in message ... http://history.nasa.gov/moondec.html "On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade." By what instrument was that goal made national policy? By the instrument of Kennedy's speech, of course, later supported by enabling legislation. Duh. |
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Bob wrote:
While I agree with most of what you just said, you are a bit too harsh. NASA did do some important work on communications - or I should say NASA funded private contractors to do the real work. And there is no doubt that NASA was the primary sponsor of the microelectronics and computer revolutions. And the satellite programs definitely had military applications even if the main purpose was civilian communications. Transistors were invented in Cherry Hill, NJ in 1947, and released for public use in 1948. NASA has zero, zilch, nada to do with it. Cherry Hill is where Bell Telephone Labs was. NASA or its predecessor agency did not even exist at the time. The solid state electronics revolution was initiated in a purely commercial (not academtic!) context. An important rule of our fascist dictatorship is that the Military Industrial Complex does not miss a trick. Just remember that throughout history man has always used new technology for military purposes first. Not true. Transistors were first used to automate telephone call switching. The phone company was -desparate- to get out of the bind of a switching system that was mostly manual. Only later were transistors used in computers which had military applications as well as commercial applications. It was the Bell Lab team of Wilson and Penzias who senendipitously provied the clinching proof for the big bang thoery. That was in 1965 when they were playing around with a mostly obsolete communications system antenna in New Jersey. They got togehter with Dr. Dicke at Princeton, just a few miles down the road and the rest is history. No military connection there, whatsoever. Bob Kolker |
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