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  #131  
Old March 7th 08, 07:07 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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Default Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16

On Mar 7, 8:18 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation





wrote:
On Mar 7, 6:41 am, BradGuth wrote:


On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation


wrote:
On Mar 6, 6:38 pm, BradGuth wrote:" Just like
this time, I'm not making the effort to deal with your spendy science
that hasn't paid off, other than in eye-candy. At a million hard
earned dollars per frame, what's to show for it all? Other than
tracking our obvious global warming, got any other results
yet? What's lame is your pathetic excuses and lack of remorse on
behalf of so many others going broke?"


you make efforts to assign malicious motivations to my actions, with
no logical rational explanation for your descriptions. Now you have
continuously argued for increased access to information, but then you
hypocritically criticize my actions of increasing access to
information as spreading eye candy, sorry you cant have it both ways
brad. I have been sharing information from the data gathered by
experiments in our manned space program, meaning that my posts are
attempting to get more use from the tax dollars already spent. Now
such an action is not contrary to caring or even advancing arguments
for social services as you have illogical argued, and therefore your
character analysis of my actions and descriptions of my motivations
fails.


Are you saying that robotics in space couldn't have done an equal or
better job of Earth imaging, at not 0.1% the cost of ISS?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


laughing, i find it funny that you have twisted my posts into the
above statement, as i have pointed out your hypocrisy directly to your
face and you could not address what i posted, you could only shift and
run away to attack in another way. So yeah i find this funny as this
is just another time i got you in this discussion and you could not
admit it, instead you make illogical assertions which are nothing more
than you attempting to protect your fragile ego. Now one would ask
you why are you afraid of combing the observations made by iss crews,
and those made from satellites, as the use of both can produce a
synergy of scientific information when combined.


Geat image of the South Patogonian Ice Field
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick View
ISS016-E-25117
S. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, LAKES
Latitude: -50.0 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."


No, you just don't like others asking viable questions, especially as
to the given cost of that eye-candy, or as to the restricted access to
those raw image files. What are you afraid of?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


My fear is people not utilizing the information already accessible in
the public domain, as tax payers have already spent the money on the
images/data that are in the archives, and my sharing of information
(providing links etc.) is simply trying to get the most science as
possible from those images, you know the science you are afraid to
acknowledge....Now your continuous hypocritical allegations, personal
attacks, and denial of information, just doesn't stop at you clinging
to your own ignorance, as you are making a very large effort to
publicly reduce the validity/relevance of such images, and in effect
attempting to discourage others from even being exposed to information
you personally don't like (based on no logical grounds), actions which
could be compared to "book burners" of the past....

Geat image of the South Patogonian Ice Field
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Display Record
ISS016-E-10753
CHILE
BENITO GL., ICE FIELD, GL.
Latitude: -47.0 Center Point Longitude: -73.5
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."


  #132  
Old March 7th 08, 07:25 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
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Default Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16

On Mar 7, 11:07 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
On Mar 7, 8:18 am, BradGuth wrote:



On Mar 7, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation


wrote:
On Mar 7, 6:41 am, BradGuth wrote:


On Mar 6, 9:03 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation


wrote:
On Mar 6, 6:38 pm, BradGuth wrote:" Just like
this time, I'm not making the effort to deal with your spendy science
that hasn't paid off, other than in eye-candy. At a million hard
earned dollars per frame, what's to show for it all? Other than
tracking our obvious global warming, got any other results
yet? What's lame is your pathetic excuses and lack of remorse on
behalf of so many others going broke?"


you make efforts to assign malicious motivations to my actions, with
no logical rational explanation for your descriptions. Now you have
continuously argued for increased access to information, but then you
hypocritically criticize my actions of increasing access to
information as spreading eye candy, sorry you cant have it both ways
brad. I have been sharing information from the data gathered by
experiments in our manned space program, meaning that my posts are
attempting to get more use from the tax dollars already spent. Now
such an action is not contrary to caring or even advancing arguments
for social services as you have illogical argued, and therefore your
character analysis of my actions and descriptions of my motivations
fails.


Are you saying that robotics in space couldn't have done an equal or
better job of Earth imaging, at not 0.1% the cost of ISS?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


laughing, i find it funny that you have twisted my posts into the
above statement, as i have pointed out your hypocrisy directly to your
face and you could not address what i posted, you could only shift and
run away to attack in another way. So yeah i find this funny as this
is just another time i got you in this discussion and you could not
admit it, instead you make illogical assertions which are nothing more
than you attempting to protect your fragile ego. Now one would ask
you why are you afraid of combing the observations made by iss crews,
and those made from satellites, as the use of both can produce a
synergy of scientific information when combined.


Geat image of the South Patogonian Ice Field
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick View
ISS016-E-25117
S. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, LAKES
Latitude: -50.0 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."


No, you just don't like others asking viable questions, especially as
to the given cost of that eye-candy, or as to the restricted access to
those raw image files. What are you afraid of?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


My fear is people not utilizing the information already accessible in
the public domain, as tax payers have already spent the money on the
images/data that are in the archives, and my sharing of information
(providing links etc.) is simply trying to get the most science as
possible from those images, you know the science you are afraid to
acknowledge....Now your continuous hypocritical allegations, personal
attacks, and denial of information, just doesn't stop at you clinging
to your own ignorance, as you are making a very large effort to
publicly reduce the validity/relevance of such images, and in effect
attempting to discourage others from even being exposed to information
you personally don't like (based on no logical grounds), actions which
could be compared to "book burners" of the past....

Geat image of the South Patogonian Ice Field
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Display Record
ISS016-E-10753
CHILE
BENITO GL., ICE FIELD, GL.
Latitude: -47.0 Center Point Longitude: -73.5
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."


Then by all means, you of all should insist upon our having access to
each and everyone of those original unmodified and obviously spendy 18
MB image files, don't you think?

How exactly is sharing the whole truth and nothing but the truth
getting reinterpreted by way of your mindset as "book burners"?
.. - Brad Guth
  #133  
Old March 7th 08, 07:48 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
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On Mar 7, 11:25 am, BradGuth wrote:"Then by all
means, you of all should insist upon our having access to each and
everyone of those original unmodified and obviously spendy 18 MB image
files, don't you think? How exactly is sharing the whole truth and
nothing but the truth getting reinterpreted by way of your mindset as
"book burners"?"

Laughing, your last statement is contrary to your actions, so please
try and describe your actions with an objective point of view, rather
than that creative writing you just engaged in with the above post.
Pursue the truth, but you don't have to insult me, my posts, or the
images i am posting links to, as you are posting negatives and acting
like you are being positive, hardly the noble cause you pretend to be
acting with as you stated above. Your posts are great spin, but not
real, and most certainly not truthful, you see brad i completely
disagree with your tactics as you have directed your attacks to me or
anyone who shares information that you don't like. That is where you
cross the line of noble in your pursuits, to acting with malice.

Another Great image of the South Patogonian Ice Field
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseo...=E&frame=25129
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Display Record
ISS016-E-25129
ARGENTINA
PAN-PATAGONIAN ICE FIELDS, L.
Latitude: -48.5 Center Point Longitude: -72.5
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."

  #134  
Old March 7th 08, 09:53 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
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On Feb 17, 7:04 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
On Feb 16, 3:51 pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Feb 16, 12:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:


On Feb 16, 9:40 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote:


"BradGuth" wrote in message
... On Feb 16, 8:53 am, "Joseph S. Powell, III" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message


...


On Feb 16, 6:46 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
Great mission so far, awesome launch, incredible space walks (great
views), and achieving a great accomplishment in space station
assembly
by adding the Columbus module to the structure. It's great to see
both
crews together, in the newly added Columbus module during today's
joint crew news conference, enjoying their work. But the best part
was just after ending the press conference both crews had a moment
of
fun play time as they spun and flipped around each other, it's great
to see such a hardworking people having fun and laughing. Great
mission and looking forward to a beautiful landing, thanks to all
the
work from the crews, and all of the people on the ground that are
making this a successful mission....


Don't forget our DoD accomplishments of testing their latest ABL, as
that too was another 100% great mission. Too bad there was never any
communications between NASA and those of our Boeing team of Phantom
Works, or those of Raytheon/TRW for that matter. It's as though DoD
and of their ABL contractors were running their own show.
. - Brad Guth


ABL - is that for Air Bourne Laser, Anti-Ballistic Laser, or something
else?


ABL = Air Borne Laser (search for Phantom Works ABL)
. - BG


My most fervent wishes are for the SBL, but unfortunately these babies don't
exist (officially).


I agree, that a fleet of such ABLs of 100 MW or better laser beam
capability is a darn good way to go, as the next best thing to any LEO
star wars defensive capability, not to mention multiple other purely
terrestrial DoD applications.


BTW, officially TWA flight 800 wasn't taken out by friendly DoD fire.


Officially the exploding TWA flight 800 simply defied the laws of
physics.


Officially we(US government) did absolutely nothing to bring about the
9/11 fiasco.


Officially we've safely landed upon, walked upon and returned from our
moon that's actually of rather pastel grays, offering 0.75 albedo in
extensive areas, and otherwise our moon is pretty much a passive sort
of place for human DNA to be for extended periods of time, as well as
being impossible to ever see or much less include Venus within any
unfiltered Kodak recorded FOV.


Officially there's no sign or any physical indications of intelligent
other life existing/coexisting on Venus.


Officially JFK was taken out by one rouge individual, and for no
apparent cold-war or NASA/Apollo related matters.


Officially our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) is not after the market
share or export control of Iraq's oil, coal and natural gas.


Officially our FEMA accomplishes its job far better than any other
government or private group could muster.


Officially Steve Fossett is dead.
. - Brad Guth


I'd forgot about the matter of our officially being informed via
mainstream media and by those in charge of most everything, that Jews
supposedly didn't intentionally take out our USS LIBERTY ship and
crew, all because of what they'd just done to their 6-Day war
prisoners. Of course, long after the fact, we now officially realize
such infowar disinformation was simply another perpetrated and
mutually orchestrated lie upon lie from the very get-go.


I have another dozen or so officially published matter of facts that
seem not so truth worthy as we'd been informed. But then, when has
our government not excluded evidence or not having outright lied to
us.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Dude, i just started this thread to pay tribute to all the people who
make the shuttle and station programs successful, not to the off topic
discussion of the satellite shoot down. Our nation's space program is
accomplishing great things and there are great people who deserve
accolades, not the stuff you have strewn together here. I did not
address your stuff here or previously as you tend to be over the top,
i.e. your messenger posts and a color correction of saturation of +75
will make neon signs out of any gray tones, and not reveal anything
meaningful, so your image processing work leaves something to be
desired anyway. Now brad, yesterday was the fun day for both crews,
and the today is the hatch closing day which is a little sadder, so im
not feeling too happy right now, so you might want to keep you idiotic
posts off of this thread.......


Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.

BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.

I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
.. - Brad Guth
  #135  
Old March 7th 08, 11:31 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
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On Mar 7, 1:53 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.

BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.

I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think you just turned this discussion into a glorified race, not
necessary, as my ego does not need to "win over" your opinion. But on
the other hand, you seem to understand that you are using malicious
ways on usenet as a means of communicating your opinions in a manner
that is not as noble as you claim. Now given I have pointed out that
your attacks, denials, and ego based challenges, are not justified by
your supposed intentions, your rational for continuing to post is
shown to be an obvious attempt to poison the topic of this thread,
which is an act of malice. I don't need to have my words taken too
seriously but this is something you repeatedly do on usenet, which is
intentionally impeding the communication of information that is in the
public domain, and since you have continuously publicly denigrated
that information, and the person sharing that information, your
malicious actions are serving a focused purpose and effecting many
people, which is hardly a noble cause. Now you may think you are
clever in repackaging and spinning your works of malice by asking and
re-asking the same loaded questions, but your attempts are obvious,
and once your arguments are stripped of their terrible logic, nothing
but your malice remains. So just because you are unhappy with some
information or you think something could or should be better, you have
rationalized your malicious actions of attempting to poison
information for everybody else, so therefore yes one could make a good
argument that your actions are equivalent to a modern day usenet book
burner....

Another Great image, but of the North Patogonian Ice Field this time.
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick View
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseo...=E&frame=24703
ISS016-E-24703
CHILE
N. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, GL
CHILE
Latitude: -46.5 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."

  #136  
Old March 8th 08, 01:46 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
BradGuth
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There's no race, just going for sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. Obviously that's too far outside the box for your
mindset.

BTW, what exactly are you trying to prove by utilizing that solid
block of text format?

? book burner ? Unlike yourself, I'm putting out book fires all the
time. If I were in charge, I most certainly would have saved all 700
boxes of our NASA/Apollo mission files that supposedly contained much
of our one and only cache of complex R&D plus loads of mission related
science.
..- Brad Guth


On Mar 7, 3:31 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:53 pm, BradGuth wrote:



Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.


BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.


I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think you just turned this discussion into a glorified race, not
necessary, as my ego does not need to "win over" your opinion. But on
the other hand, you seem to understand that you are using malicious
ways on usenet as a means of communicating your opinions in a manner
that is not as noble as you claim. Now given I have pointed out that
your attacks, denials, and ego based challenges, are not justified by
your supposed intentions, your rational for continuing to post is
shown to be an obvious attempt to poison the topic of this thread,
which is an act of malice. I don't need to have my words taken too
seriously but this is something you repeatedly do on usenet, which is
intentionally impeding the communication of information that is in the
public domain, and since you have continuously publicly denigrated
that information, and the person sharing that information, your
malicious actions are serving a focused purpose and effecting many
people, which is hardly a noble cause. Now you may think you are
clever in repackaging and spinning your works of malice by asking and
re-asking the same loaded questions, but your attempts are obvious,
and once your arguments are stripped of their terrible logic, nothing
but your malice remains. So just because you are unhappy with some
information or you think something could or should be better, you have
rationalized your malicious actions of attempting to poison
information for everybody else, so therefore yes one could make a good
argument that your actions are equivalent to a modern day usenet book
burner....

Another Great image, but of the North Patogonian Ice Field this time.
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick Viewhttp://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
ISS016-E-24703
CHILE
N. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, GL
CHILE
Latitude: -46.5 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."


  #137  
Old March 8th 08, 02:12 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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On Mar 7, 5:46*pm, BradGuth wrote:
There's no race, just going for sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. *Obviously that's too far outside the box for your
mindset.

BTW, what exactly are you trying to prove by utilizing that solid
block of text format?

? book burner ? *Unlike yourself, I'm putting out book fires all the
time. *If I were in charge, I most certainly would have saved all 700
boxes of our NASA/Apollo mission files that supposedly contained much
of our one and only cache of complex R&D plus loads of mission related
science.
.- Brad Guth

On Mar 7, 3:31 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation



wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:53 pm, BradGuth wrote:


Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.


BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. *Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.


I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think you just turned this discussion into a glorified race, not
necessary, as my ego does not need to "win over" your opinion. *But on
the other hand, you seem to understand that you are using malicious
ways on usenet as a means of communicating your opinions in a manner
that is not as noble as you claim. *Now given I have pointed out that
your attacks, denials, and ego based challenges, are not justified by
your supposed intentions, your rational for continuing to post is
shown to be an obvious attempt to poison the topic of this thread,
which is an act of malice. *I don't need to have my words taken too
seriously but this is something you repeatedly do on usenet, which is
intentionally impeding the communication of information that is in the
public domain, and since you have continuously publicly denigrated
that information, and the person sharing that information, your
malicious actions are serving a focused purpose and effecting many
people, which is hardly a noble cause. *Now you may think you are
clever in repackaging and spinning your works of malice by asking and
re-asking the same loaded questions, but your attempts are obvious,
and once your arguments are stripped of their terrible logic, nothing
but your malice remains. *So just because you are unhappy with some
information or you think something could or should be better, you have
rationalized your malicious actions of attempting to poison
information for everybody else, so therefore yes one could make a good
argument that your actions are equivalent to a modern day usenet book
burner....


Another Great image, but of the North Patogonian Ice Field this time.
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick Viewhttp://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
ISS016-E-24703
CHILE
N. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, GL
CHILE
Latitude: -46.5 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


all of which is fine and dandy but has nothing to do with you making
malicious statements in this thread, or any other thread for that
matter. Rationalizing your actions is a predictable action, but does
not address your responsibility to not act in a malicious manner, as
you have here. Now your hypothetical is just that, and does not
address the focus of your malicious efforts, which are real and not
contrived, so you are not fooling anybody with your spin and
misrepresentations of your motivations. So once again just because
you are unhappy with some information or you think something could or
should be better, you have rationalized your malicious actions of
attempting to poison information for everybody else, so therefore yes
one could make a good argument that your actions are equivalent to a
modern day usenet book burner....
  #138  
Old March 8th 08, 03:38 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
BradGuth
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Default Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16

On Mar 7, 6:12 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:46 pm, BradGuth wrote:



There's no race, just going for sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. Obviously that's too far outside the box for your
mindset.


BTW, what exactly are you trying to prove by utilizing that solid
block of text format?


? book burner ? Unlike yourself, I'm putting out book fires all the
time. If I were in charge, I most certainly would have saved all 700
boxes of our NASA/Apollo mission files that supposedly contained much
of our one and only cache of complex R&D plus loads of mission related
science.
.- Brad Guth


On Mar 7, 3:31 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation


wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:53 pm, BradGuth wrote:


Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.


BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.


I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think you just turned this discussion into a glorified race, not
necessary, as my ego does not need to "win over" your opinion. But on
the other hand, you seem to understand that you are using malicious
ways on usenet as a means of communicating your opinions in a manner
that is not as noble as you claim. Now given I have pointed out that
your attacks, denials, and ego based challenges, are not justified by
your supposed intentions, your rational for continuing to post is
shown to be an obvious attempt to poison the topic of this thread,
which is an act of malice. I don't need to have my words taken too
seriously but this is something you repeatedly do on usenet, which is
intentionally impeding the communication of information that is in the
public domain, and since you have continuously publicly denigrated
that information, and the person sharing that information, your
malicious actions are serving a focused purpose and effecting many
people, which is hardly a noble cause. Now you may think you are
clever in repackaging and spinning your works of malice by asking and
re-asking the same loaded questions, but your attempts are obvious,
and once your arguments are stripped of their terrible logic, nothing
but your malice remains. So just because you are unhappy with some
information or you think something could or should be better, you have
rationalized your malicious actions of attempting to poison
information for everybody else, so therefore yes one could make a good
argument that your actions are equivalent to a modern day usenet book
burner....


Another Great image, but of the North Patogonian Ice Field this time.
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick Viewhttp://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
ISS016-E-24703
CHILE
N. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, GL
CHILE
Latitude: -46.5 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


all of which is fine and dandy but has nothing to do with you making
malicious statements in this thread, or any other thread for that
matter. Rationalizing your actions is a predictable action, but does
not address your responsibility to not act in a malicious manner, as
you have here. Now your hypothetical is just that, and does not
address the focus of your malicious efforts, which are real and not
contrived, so you are not fooling anybody with your spin and
misrepresentations of your motivations. So once again just because
you are unhappy with some information or you think something could or
should be better, you have rationalized your malicious actions of
attempting to poison information for everybody else, so therefore yes
one could make a good argument that your actions are equivalent to a
modern day usenet book burner....


You either just don't get it, or you're one of them. Either way you
are summarily dumbfounded past the point of no return.

Why don't you just fork over each of those 18 MB image files?
.. - Brad Guth
  #139  
Old March 8th 08, 05:28 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
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On Mar 7, 7:38 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Mar 7, 6:12 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation





wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:46 pm, BradGuth wrote:


There's no race, just going for sharing the whole truth and nothing
but the truth. Obviously that's too far outside the box for your
mindset.


BTW, what exactly are you trying to prove by utilizing that solid
block of text format?


? book burner ? Unlike yourself, I'm putting out book fires all the
time. If I were in charge, I most certainly would have saved all 700
boxes of our NASA/Apollo mission files that supposedly contained much
of our one and only cache of complex R&D plus loads of mission related
science.
.- Brad Guth


On Mar 7, 3:31 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation


wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:53 pm, BradGuth wrote:


Fine and dandy, if that's what makes you a happy camper, but I'll
still put my observationology data-stream of 1.555 million full
resolution frames per day as derived from my robotic Earth Viewing
array of cameras up against your wussy dozen or so frames of minimal
resolution and of restricted dynamic range that our spendy ISS
delivers per day, that is when and if they feel like it or can even
manage to find the time.


BTW, such robotics in space can safely fly higher than ISS, if need be
into the first Van Allen belt, as well as even trekking directly
through the SAA without ever traumatizing one frail human DNA. Try
that with ISS, and most of that brave crew w/o banked bone marrow are
summarily screwed.


I think my extremely low cost per frame and of those being of full
resolution and maximum DR image files, as such are going to make the
best of any Kodak moment via ISS look somewhat pathetic, not to
mention spendy...
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I think you just turned this discussion into a glorified race, not
necessary, as my ego does not need to "win over" your opinion. But on
the other hand, you seem to understand that you are using malicious
ways on usenet as a means of communicating your opinions in a manner
that is not as noble as you claim. Now given I have pointed out that
your attacks, denials, and ego based challenges, are not justified by
your supposed intentions, your rational for continuing to post is
shown to be an obvious attempt to poison the topic of this thread,
which is an act of malice. I don't need to have my words taken too
seriously but this is something you repeatedly do on usenet, which is
intentionally impeding the communication of information that is in the
public domain, and since you have continuously publicly denigrated
that information, and the person sharing that information, your
malicious actions are serving a focused purpose and effecting many
people, which is hardly a noble cause. Now you may think you are
clever in repackaging and spinning your works of malice by asking and
re-asking the same loaded questions, but your attempts are obvious,
and once your arguments are stripped of their terrible logic, nothing
but your malice remains. So just because you are unhappy with some
information or you think something could or should be better, you have
rationalized your malicious actions of attempting to poison
information for everybody else, so therefore yes one could make a good
argument that your actions are equivalent to a modern day usenet book
burner....


Another Great image, but of the North Patogonian Ice Field this time.
"The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth."
Astronaut Photography of Earth - Quick Viewhttp://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=ISS016&roll=E&...
ISS016-E-24703
CHILE
N. PATAGONIAN ICE FIELD, GL
CHILE
Latitude: -46.5 Center Point Longitude: -73.0
image comes from the Image Science and Analysis Laboratory, NASA-
Johnson Space Center. "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of
Earth."- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


all of which is fine and dandy but has nothing to do with you making
malicious statements in this thread, or any other thread for that
matter. Rationalizing your actions is a predictable action, but does
not address your responsibility to not act in a malicious manner, as
you have here. Now your hypothetical is just that, and does not
address the focus of your malicious efforts, which are real and not
contrived, so you are not fooling anybody with your spin and
misrepresentations of your motivations. So once again just because
you are unhappy with some information or you think something could or
should be better, you have rationalized your malicious actions of
attempting to poison information for everybody else, so therefore yes
one could make a good argument that your actions are equivalent to a
modern day usenet book burner....


You either just don't get it, or you're one of them. Either way you
are summarily dumbfounded past the point of no return.

Why don't you just fork over each of those 18 MB image files?
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


False premise and failing logic. Additional personal attacks just
further demonstrate your motivations are malicious, no matter how much
you attempt to intellectualize, rationalize, and excuse them or
yourself...
  #140  
Old March 8th 08, 06:46 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.space.station
BradGuth
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Default Great missions STS-122 & Expedition 16

On Mar 7, 9:28 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
wrote:

False premise and failing logic. Additional personal attacks just
further demonstrate your motivations are malicious, no matter how much
you attempt to intellectualize, rationalize, and excuse them or
yourself...


If that's your best born-again opinion, and you're still a happy brown-
nosed camper, then so be it.

Silly old me, I always thought that public funded physics R&D and of
whatever's the best available science was of all such silly things
PUBLIC!

Who besides us taxpayers and of us public end-use consumers is footing
the bill, paying for absolutely everything (including yourself) over
and over, along with those full extended family benefits and of
sustaining those nifty retirements with full health benefits to boot?
.. - Brad Guth
 




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