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snip I thought at first that it might be because he was reading from a different group--some people have been trimming headers and others have not, which has led to some odd sub-threads, including this one. But when I went back and looked at both groups, the Lapierre incident is retold in the thread immediately prior to this one entitled: "Russian: MEN WILL BE FIRST TO GO TO MARS" and only referred to in this thread beginning with Rand's response to "John Doe." That's probably a part of it, too, Rhonda. As y'all might have noticed, I took a good seven or eight month break fron Usenet -- getting divorced, setting up in a new place, working overtime every week and working for Kerry/Edwards during the campaign just sort of took all my free time. It's quite possible that the first thread you mention was exhausted just before I decided to make my triumphant re-appearance... *grin*... By the way, welcome back to you, too, Rhonda! I was pleased to see you back here when I came back. -- "The problem isn't that there are so | Doug Van Dorn many fools; it's that lightning isn't | distributed right." -Mark Twain |
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Pat Flannery wrote:
:Scott Hedrick wrote: : :THe Russians have a "penguin suit"- would the placement of weights in and :around the suit help, similar to the use of weights while power walking? :While it wouldn't eliminate the need for exercise, it should provide some :benefit, and the weights could be removed when they would cause problems. A :constant small stress has got to provide some benefit. : :Astronauts and cosmonauts who've used the "penguin suits" really dislike them. :I take it the idea of the weights is to force them to move mass around :with their movements; how about a suit that contained springs to work :against instead? Alternately, one with air pressurized tubes that would :take effort to move, thereby using the stiffness problem of pressure :suits to one's advantage? The problem is that we don't really know that ANY of those will help much. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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Fred J. McCall wrote: The problem is that we don't really know that ANY of those will help The only sure cure is a one G artificial gravity field IMHO; so we had better start looking at centrifugal force arrangements. Pat |
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"Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote: : "Rhonda Lea Kirk" wrote: : Fred J. McCall wrote: : : Think 'calcium loss'. I think this affects women : much more severely than men. : : So now we're sending post-menopausal women to Mars? : : Seriously, women don't have a higher risk of : osteoporosis until after menopause. : : That was not my understanding of what the space : medicine : studies indicated. Women under zero-g lose calcium : more : quickly than men do, as I recall it. : :Where would I find those studies (or even a reference :to women experiencing greater bone loss)? Because I'm :not finding them. I don't find them now, either. In fact, what I do find says there is insufficient data to tell with certainty. Presumably, what I was recalling was some preliminary opinion years ago, rather like the one that said that women didn't suffer from space adaptation syndrome (space sickness). That one was wrong. It turned out they just got lucky with the first one. : Calcium loss is pretty much THE big problem we're aware of : with prolonged exposure to zero-g. : :From what I've read, it's as big a roadblock for men as :it is for women. I believe the current opinion is 'unknown'. Given the differences in metabolism (in all sorts of ways) between men and women I'm not sure why you'd assume this one would be the same. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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