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Atheism and Evidence
Atheism and Evidence
The problem with the realist/superstitious controversy (as opposed to the secularism/ faith debate... which is strictly speaking one of a political power-struggle over who will direct society), is that THERE REALLY IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the one above ["there is no god"] always resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony!!! e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW" there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM! At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?" "... not yet. Still looking, though--" The opposite, of course, is also just as true. In other words, "there is a god" also resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony: Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there is a god and they're likely to tell you "because the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure, not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring, plus more Sun, et al." The problem here is self-evident then: If the believer KNOWS there is a god he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The only upside here is that maybe he/she had a nice brunch with Him ...] What both "witnesses" are saying is: Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!" Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god." And both testimonies are equivalent: lies. My advice is to study the brain's ultimate function--which is to solve problems, to overcome them. [And yet there are so many problems in the world which no human brain will ever solve/overcome... both simple and complex (problems) too.] So I wonder what might result from the human brain not being able to overcome all those unresolvable problems which God now resolves so easily via a simple transaction (prayer by another name). I often tell people how "I know there is no god but I still pray to him" and they tell me they have no idea what I'm talking about. (Which is incomprehensible to me, of course, since THAT is the universal experience!) Well, I have often spoken with persons who swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists. But then we get around to what's going on in his/her brain when driving towards a distant green light ... on a morning when they are very late for a very important appointment ... And then they know what I'm talking about: Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue with with our universal alter-ego (GOD). God is a very neat invention of the human brain. It's when morons are allowed to define God that we get into all sorts of trouble with God (especially if when we allow psychopaths like Mohammed to define God, then blood hell). S D Rodrian http://poems.sdrodrian.com http://physics.sdrodrian.com http://MP3s.sdrodrian.com All religions are local. Only science is universal. .. |
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Atheism and Evidence
On May 4, 11:42*am, wrote:
All religions are local. Only science is universal. He's baaack..! Interesting related ditty here- http://discovermagazine.com/2009/may...e-space-cosmos |
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Atheism and Evidence
How did S. D. Rodrian find alt.astronomy?
This is not good. Double-A |
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Atheism and Evidence
On May 4, 1:42*pm, wrote:
Atheism and Evidence The problem with the realist/superstitious controversy (as opposed to the secularism/ faith debate... which is strictly speaking one of a political power-struggle over who will direct society), is that THERE REALLY IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the one above ["there is no god"] always resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony!!! * e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW" * there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM! * At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity * of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?" * "... not yet. Still looking, though--" The opposite, of course, is also just as true. In other words, "there is a god" also resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony: Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there is a god and they're likely to tell you "because the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure, not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring, plus more Sun, et al." The problem here is self-evident then: * If the believer KNOWS there is a god * he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The * only upside here is that maybe he/she * had a nice brunch with Him ...] What both "witnesses" are saying is: Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!" Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god." And both testimonies are equivalent: lies. My advice is to study the brain's ultimate function--which is to solve problems, to overcome them. [And yet there are so many problems in the world which no human brain will ever solve/overcome... both simple and complex (problems) too.] So I wonder what might result from the human brain not being able to overcome all those unresolvable problems which God now resolves so easily via a simple transaction (prayer by another name). I often tell people how "I know there is no god but I still pray to him" and they tell me they have no idea what I'm talking about. (Which is incomprehensible to me, of course, since THAT is the universal experience!) Well, I have often spoken with persons who swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists. But then we get around to what's going on in his/her brain when driving towards a distant green light ... on a morning when they are very late for a very important appointment ... And then they know what I'm talking about: io * Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest * of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue * with with our universal alter-ego (GOD). wh God is a very neat invention of the human brain. God is no invention ; there isnt a person on earth who doesnt know , intrinsically, that a personal Designer/Creator is necessary for what we have before us (and inside us for that matter) . If you as 'an atheist' believe that a personal Designer/Creator isnt necessary then you have to resort to the absolute absurd desperate philosophy that the scientifically verified 250+ Physics Constants of our Universe AKA: Anthropics which are so meticulously finetuned it is near incomprehensible , which are ALL needed SIMULTANEOUSLY (since each depends on one another for their own sustainence) ... just happened to come along by purely natural and accidental means . There isnt one person who calls himself 'an atheist' who can force himself to really believe this because it just requires too much faith in the absurd because we all know what constitutes a Designer . When this dilemna is brought before the willful 'atheist' , his only option is to try to avoid the issue/take the granduer of Creation for granted day after day/ and-or resort to personal attacks of the Messenger who brought it to light. (if there are any replies to this post of mine, it will bear out what ive just asserted ). Ergo, the atheist is faced with the age old question ... Why dont you want God to exist for you personally ? . It isnt due to lack of evidence thats for sure, so, we can hence speculate what such reason(s) might be if you like and if it isnt too uncomfortable to do so . As a former 'atheist'., thats what I had to come to terms with. Regards. |
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On May 4, 1:52*pm, Double-A wrote:
How did S. D. Rodrian find alt.astronomy? This is not good. SDR made a grand and splashy entry here 01 Jan. 2000 with his bequest to the new millenium and was a prolific poster for a few years, then dwindled off to just an occasional 'hit' once in a while. |
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Atheism and Evidence
On May 4, 1:55*pm, " wrote:
On May 4, 1:42*pm, wrote: Atheism and Evidence The problem with the realist/superstitious controversy (as opposed to the secularism/ faith debate... which is strictly speaking one of a political power-struggle over who will direct society), is that THERE REALLY IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the one above ["there is no god"] always resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony!!! * e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW" * there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM! * At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity * of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?" * "... not yet. Still looking, though--" The opposite, of course, is also just as true. In other words, "there is a god" also resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony: Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there is a god and they're likely to tell you "because the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure, not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring, plus more Sun, et al." The problem here is self-evident then: * If the believer KNOWS there is a god * he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The * only upside here is that maybe he/she * had a nice brunch with Him ...] What both "witnesses" are saying is: Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!" Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god." And both testimonies are equivalent: lies. My advice is to study the brain's ultimate function--which is to solve problems, to overcome them. [And yet there are so many problems in the world which no human brain will ever solve/overcome... both simple and complex (problems) too.] So I wonder what might result from the human brain not being able to overcome all those unresolvable problems which God now resolves so easily via a simple transaction (prayer by another name). I often tell people how "I know there is no god but I still pray to him" and they tell me they have no idea what I'm talking about. (Which is incomprehensible to me, of course, since THAT is the universal experience!) Well, I have often spoken with persons who swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists. But then we get around to what's going on in his/her brain when driving towards a distant green light ... on a morning when they are very late for a very important appointment ... And then they know what I'm talking about: io * Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest * of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue * with with our universal alter-ego (GOD). *wh God is a very neat invention of the human brain. God is no invention ; *there isnt a person on earth who doesnt know , intrinsically, that a personal Designer/Creator is necessary for what we have before us (and inside us for that matter) . *If you as 'an atheist' *believe that a personal Designer/Creator isnt necessary then you have to resort to the absolute absurd desperate philosophy that the scientifically verified 250+ *Physics Constants of our Universe AKA: Anthropics which are so meticulously finetuned it is near incomprehensible , which are ALL needed SIMULTANEOUSLY (since each depends on one another for their own sustainence) *... just happened to come along by purely natural and accidental means . There isnt one person who calls himself 'an atheist' *who can force himself to really believe this because it just requires too much faith in the absurd because we all know what constitutes a Designer . * When this dilemna is brought before the willful 'atheist' , his only option is to try to avoid the issue/take the granduer of Creation for granted day after day/ and-or *resort to personal attacks of the Messenger *who brought it to light. (if there are any replies to this post of mine, it will bear out what ive just asserted *). * Ergo, *the atheist is faced with the age old question ... Why dont you want God to exist for you personally ? *. It isnt due to lack of evidence thats for sure, so, we can hence speculate what such reason(s) might be if you like and if it isnt too uncomfortable to do so . *As a former 'atheist'., thats what I had to come to terms with. *Regards. I can buy into ET ID, because not much of anything else makes sense. At the very least complex microbes and spores via panspermia came into our environment, and from time to time are still arriving (most recently from Venus). ~ BG |
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On May 4, 11:42*am, wrote:
Atheism and Evidence The problem with the realist/superstitious controversy (as opposed to the secularism/ faith debate... which is strictly speaking one of a political power-struggle over who will direct society), is that THERE REALLY IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the one above ["there is no god"] always resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony!!! * e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW" * there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM! * At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity * of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?" * "... not yet. Still looking, though--" The opposite, of course, is also just as true. In other words, "there is a god" also resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony: Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there is a god and they're likely to tell you "because the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure, not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring, plus more Sun, et al." The problem here is self-evident then: * If the believer KNOWS there is a god * he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The * only upside here is that maybe he/she * had a nice brunch with Him ...] What both "witnesses" are saying is: Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!" Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god." And both testimonies are equivalent: lies. My advice is to study the brain's ultimate function--which is to solve problems, to overcome them. [And yet there are so many problems in the world which no human brain will ever solve/overcome... both simple and complex (problems) too.] So I wonder what might result from the human brain not being able to overcome all those unresolvable problems which God now resolves so easily via a simple transaction (prayer by another name). I often tell people how "I know there is no god but I still pray to him" and they tell me they have no idea what I'm talking about. (Which is incomprehensible to me, of course, since THAT is the universal experience!) Well, I have often spoken with persons who swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists. But then we get around to what's going on in his/her brain when driving towards a distant green light ... on a morning when they are very late for a very important appointment ... And then they know what I'm talking about: * Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest * of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue * with with our universal alter-ego (GOD). God is a very neat invention of the human brain. It's when morons are allowed to define God that we get into all sorts of trouble with God (especially if when we allow psychopaths like Mohammed to define God, then blood hell). S D Rodrianhttp://poems.sdrodrian.comhttp://physics.sdrodrian.comhttp://MP3s.sdrodrian.com All religions are local. Only science is universal. . Here in Usenet/newsgroups (aka Google/NOVA Groups), pretend-Atheism is universal. ~ BG |
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On May 4, 2:48*pm, BradGuth wrote:
At the very least complex microbes and spores via panspermia came into our environment, and from time to time are still arriving (most recently from Venus). *~ BG The surface temperature of which averages about 464 °C (867°F). alters very little between the night and day sides of planet and, for that reason, Venus should be considered quite sterile |
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On May 4, 4:48*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 4, 1:55*pm, " wrote: On May 4, 1:42*pm, wrote: Atheism and Evidence The problem with the realist/superstitious controversy (as opposed to the secularism/ faith debate... which is strictly speaking one of a political power-struggle over who will direct society), is that THERE REALLY IS NO GOD. Therefore a statement like the one above ["there is no god"] always resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony!!! * e.g. how in the heck can the atheist "KNOW" * there is no god IF HE'S NEVER FOUND HIM! * At worst, the atheist is doomed to an eternity * of futilely looking for Him... "Found Him yet?" * "... not yet. Still looking, though--" The opposite, of course, is also just as true. In other words, "there is a god" also resolves to a merely/purely personal testimony: Ask such a believer how he/she KNOWS there is a god and they're likely to tell you "because the flowers bloom in the spring" or some such nonsense. Well, "No. That's manu Manure, not god, is why the flowers bloom in the spring, plus more Sun, et al." The problem here is self-evident then: * If the believer KNOWS there is a god * he/she hath killed FAITH (in god). [The * only upside here is that maybe he/she * had a nice brunch with Him ...] What both "witnesses" are saying is: Believer: "I KNOW there is a god!" Atheist: "I KNOW there is no god." And both testimonies are equivalent: lies. My advice is to study the brain's ultimate function--which is to solve problems, to overcome them. [And yet there are so many problems in the world which no human brain will ever solve/overcome... both simple and complex (problems) too.] So I wonder what might result from the human brain not being able to overcome all those unresolvable problems which God now resolves so easily via a simple transaction (prayer by another name). I often tell people how "I know there is no god but I still pray to him" and they tell me they have no idea what I'm talking about. (Which is incomprehensible to me, of course, since THAT is the universal experience!) Well, I have often spoken with persons who swear to me (by God) they are truly atheists. But then we get around to what's going on in his/her brain when driving towards a distant green light ... on a morning when they are very late for a very important appointment ... And then they know what I'm talking about: io * Only a "robot" can be a true atheist--the rest * of us are forever bound to a personal dialogue * with with our universal alter-ego (GOD). *wh God is a very neat invention of the human brain. God is no invention ; *there isnt a person on earth who doesnt know , intrinsically, that a personal Designer/Creator is necessary for what we have before us (and inside us for that matter) . *If you as 'an atheist' *believe that a personal Designer/Creator isnt necessary then you have to resort to the absolute absurd desperate philosophy that the scientifically verified 250+ *Physics Constants of our Universe AKA: Anthropics which are so meticulously finetuned it is near incomprehensible , which are ALL needed SIMULTANEOUSLY (since each depends on one another for their own sustainence) *... just happened to come along by purely natural and accidental means . There isnt one person who calls himself 'an atheist' *who can force himself to really believe this because it just requires too much faith in the absurd because we all know what constitutes a Designer . * When this dilemna is brought before the willful 'atheist' , his only option is to try to avoid the issue/take the granduer of Creation for granted day after day/ and-or *resort to personal attacks of the Messenger *who brought it to light. (if there are any replies to this post of mine, it will bear out what ive just asserted *). * Ergo, *the atheist is faced with the age old question ... Why dont you want God to exist for you personally ? *. It isnt due to lack of evidence thats for sure, so, we can hence speculate what such reason(s) might be if you like and if it isnt too uncomfortable to do so . *As a former 'atheist'., thats what I had to come to terms with. *Regards. I can buy into ET ID, because not much of anything else makes sense. At the very least complex microbes and spores via panspermia came into our environment, and from time to time are still arriving (most recently from Venus). *~ BG- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So then there is an Intelligent source for first life which can only come from personal Intelligent Beings ? Where did the Intelligent Beings come from ? |
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