Antigravity - The fraud of the 20th century.

On Jul 23, 10:54 pm, Uncle Al wrote:
Descartes wrote:

[snip]

All of that inevitably arises from classical physics with heavy
literature citation and no possibility of dissent. None of that is
arguable. The only unknown is whether the vacuum is empirically
even-parity or odd-parity in the mass sector. Vacuum isotropy vs.
anisotropic chiral background cannot be resolved by debate. That must
be examined. The reproducible answer is the answer. It matters not
who does not like the results.

Chiral vaccum background as more extension of weak force assymmetry?
For over a month. I've been mulling about Mirror Matter that can
resolve the weak force assymetry. It goes like this.

NO. A chiral vacuum background would *source* the 100% left-handed
weak interaction. It cannot be the other way around for lack of
amplitude vs. observed effect. Parity Violating Energy Difference

Of course, I didn't mean that weak force assymetry create the
vacuum but that they are related somehow. Anyway. A chiral
vacuum background means the same as a left-handed
vaccum background? If so, where is the right-handed vacuum
background?

"Nearly 50 years ago it was discovered that the fundamental
particles,
such as the electron and proton have "left-handed" interactions - they
do
not respect mirror symmetry. This experimental fact motivates the idea
that a set of "mirror particles" exist. The left-handedness of the
ordinary particles can then be balanced by the right-handedness
of the mirror particles."

Ok. Uncle Al or others. Are you aware of fatal flaws for these
idea about right-handed Mirror Matter? Their not being the
same mass as normal matter may be result of symmetry
breaking. Anyway. If your experiment produces non-null
and vaccum background is chiral then it falsifies mirror
matter (or lessen their necessity).

There is no empirical evidence for mirror matter. Physics is obsessed
with unbiased symmetry - SUSY; and the persistent undetectability of
the axion and everything else that should be out there postulated in
symmetric counterpoint to the Standard Model,

No empirical evidence for mirror matter? Well. Dark matter could
be mirror matter and they are assumed to exist all over the universe.
Anyway. Check out this arxiv paper about mirror matter and the
evidences:

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0306120

I'm looking for empirical arguments that can totally refute right-
handed
"mirror matter"

Des



Google
axion cast 288,000 hits

including proton decay debunked by Super-Kamiokande. Like any
economist or priest, theorists added a few more orders of magnitude to
proton half-life and dared experimentalists to call their bluff. The
universe is perseveratively chiral in the mass sector.

The parity calorimetry experiment is a bonehead undergrad lab.
Anybody who does not like the results, if any, can repeat it by the
rules and progressively outside them until blood runs out their ears.
Only the first run is interesting.

--
Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

DAVID GREENE wrote:
"Uncle Al" wrote:

(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) = faith

No offense, Uncle Al, but of all the nutty things
you have said over the years that is the nuttiest.

Dave Greene


Quit insulting my father twit.

--
Contra-Shill #312

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PART 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

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"Loogie"

(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) = faith

No offense, Uncle Al, but of all the nutty things
you have said over the years that is the nuttiest.

Dave Greene


Quit insulting my father twit.

Ahhh Come on! Nobody here stays clean from saying nutty thing every now and
then. And you must be fair. The "(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) =
faith" surely does belong there! I mean, it could be something else than
faith too. It can be theory, it can be hope, it can be Heisenberg.

Christine!

On Jul 23, 9:36 am, Loogie wrote:
DAVID GREENE wrote:
"Uncle Al" wrote:

(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) = faith

No offense, Uncle Al, but of all the nutty things
you have said over the years that is the nuttiest.

Dave Greene

Quit insulting my father twit.

--
Contra-Shill #312

-----------------------------------------------------------------
We the Sheeple -http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/sunshine.jpg

The Energy Non-Crisis
PART 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk
PART 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
PART 3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man athttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

We Know. We Know -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJpCezIsMpk
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Faith of one sort or another is what got us into most wars as well as
this never-ending energy and GW fiasco in the first place, and it's
faith that's puppeteering on behalf of sustaining each of their status
quo mindsets at all cost. Any possible revision of the past, present
or future simply isn't allowed, no matters what. The anti antigravity
cultism is simply another portion of that swarm like mindset that's
willing to kill even their own kind in order to keep those Old
Testament lids on tight.

Global warming has extensively to do with the lithobraking arrival of
our moon as of roughly 12,000 BP. However, on the behalf of various
lord/wizard/spook/mole/rusemaster (aka official Usenet naysayers),
I'll gladly say it again and again, with as much honest love and
affection as I can muster in spite of the mainstream gauntlet of flak
that's sustaining their status quo.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was correct, in that there's
endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other life
within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this crazy but
otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/nondisclosure
rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain to our
terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets or
moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.

How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

On 23 Jul, 15:54, Uncle Al wrote:
Descartes wrote:

[snip]

All of that inevitably arises from classical physics with heavy
literature citation and no possibility of dissent. None of that is
arguable. The only unknown is whether the vacuum is empirically
even-parity or odd-parity in the mass sector. Vacuum isotropy vs.
anisotropic chiral background cannot be resolved by debate. That must
be examined. The reproducible answer is the answer. It matters not
who does not like the results.

Chiral vaccum background as more extension of weak force assymmetry?
For over a month. I've been mulling about Mirror Matter that can
resolve the weak force assymetry. It goes like this.

NO. A chiral vacuum background would *source* the 100% left-handed
weak interaction. It cannot be the other way around for lack of
amplitude vs. observed effect. Parity Violating Energy Difference
(PVED) experiments seek a measurable energy divergence between
left-handed and right-handed molecules from weak interaction Z^0
neutral current exchange between nucleus and electrons. Optimistic
PVED is 8x10^(-12) eV. Room temperature energy background kT = 0.0257
eV. Carbon-carbon bond strength is 3.6 eV. Benzil PVED
/_\/_\H(fusion) will not exceed 4x10^(-10) J/gram from the weak
interaction.

Mendeleev Commun. 13(3) 129 (2003)
Angew. Chem. Int. Ed. 41(24) 4618 (2003)

If gravitation is affine, teleparallel, or noncommutative rather than
metric, calculated /_\/_\H(fusion) between left-handed and
right-handed benzil crystals is 8.99 J/gram or 8% energy/mass
difference for a 10^(-13) difference/average Equivalence Principle
mass/mass anomaly. EP parity violation arises from interaction with a
measurably chiral vacuum background. A two-day experiment offers
profound consequences for physics, chemistry, and biology.

I care whether there is a reproducible net signal. I don't care at
all what theory is used to rationalize it if it appears. Small, equal
mass, chemically identical, opposite parity solid single crystal
spheres absolutely cannot have measurably different heats of fusion in
calibrated equipment unless physics is fundamentally in error.

Newton was wrong for assuming all knowledge of a system is exactly and
instantaneously available to an observer (h=0 and c=infinity).
General Relativity and quantum field theory took up the slack.
Physics was STILL fundamentally wrong, demonstrated by a bludgeon of
an experiment,

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ph...ment/app1.html
http://# physics.nist.gov/GenInt/Parity/cover.htmlhttp://ccreweb.org/documents/parity/parity.html
http://www.astro.washington.edu/cowan/school/parity.pdf

We also have a bludgeon of an experiment arising from handedness. We
are going to look.

"Nearly 50 years ago it was discovered that the fundamental
particles,
such as the electron and proton have "left-handed" interactions - they
do
not respect mirror symmetry. This experimental fact motivates the idea
that a set of "mirror particles" exist. The left-handedness of the
ordinary particles can then be balanced by the right-handedness
of the mirror particles."

Ok. Uncle Al or others. Are you aware of fatal flaws for these
idea about right-handed Mirror Matter? Their not being the
same mass as normal matter may be result of symmetry
breaking. Anyway. If your experiment produces non-null
and vaccum background is chiral then it falsifies mirror
matter (or lessen their necessity).

There is no empirical evidence for mirror matter. Physics is obsessed
with unbiased symmetry - SUSY; and the persistent undetectability of
the axion and everything else that should be out there postulated in
symmetric counterpoint to the Standard Model,

Google
axion cast 288,000 hits

including proton decay debunked by Super-Kamiokande. Like any
economist or priest, theorists added a few more orders of magnitude to
proton half-life and dared experimentalists to call their bluff. The
universe is perseveratively chiral in the mass sector.

The parity calorimetry experiment is a bonehead undergrad lab.
Anybody who does not like the results, if any, can repeat it by the
rules and progressively outside them until blood runs out their ears.
Only the first run is interesting.

Look if we have 100% of one chirality any antigravity in the guage
particle would suely show up with Eotvos at 10^-11. Different nuclei
would "fall" at slighly different rates.


- Ian Parker

On 23 Jul, 15:59, Joe Strout wrote:
In article . com,
Ian Parker wrote:

What do the advocates of antigravity think about LIGO. Are they
queuing up to demonstrate that they can in fact move LIGO's mirrors.
Not a bit of it! This to me puts it on the same level as
creationalism. It is nothing other than a gigantic fraud which has got
no scientific basis at all.

Ian, of *course* it is a fraud, but not a gigantic one -- it's a minor
bit of kookery; the Apollo-hoax kooks are a much bigger crowd.
Everybody in the scientific community knows that no such thing as
antigravity or gravity-shielding exists (or at least, has been
discovered by humans), and anybody who tells you otherwise probably also
wears a tinfoil hat to keep the CIA from controlling their thoughts.
You've put far too much effort into it; ignoring kookery is generally
the best policy.

I happen to believe Armstong DID land on the Moon. Anyway antigravity
has all the cudos of a Nazi secret society, the CIA, Area 51. What
else do you need for a good film?

There seems to be a widespread perception that Area 51 knows things
that mainstream science does not.

No, the widespread perception among normal people is that Area 51
doesn't exist except in sci-fi movies and bad TV. It's a fun bit of
mythology, that's all. You are hanging out with the wrong people if
most of them believe in little green (or gray) men and captured flying
saucers.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/area51.html

It certainly does exist. What it does and does not do is another
matter,. Area 51 is where the stealth aircraft (the B2 and F117) were
tested. A lot of secret work is carried on there. Antigravity is at
the top of the rumor list.

Are we alone in the Universe?

That's the simplest explanation for the great silence. Or at least,
alone in our galaxy. (Intergalactic distances are so great, and the
number of galaxies so vast, that it seems reasonable to suppose that
there are civilizations in other galaxies which we can't, and maybe will
never, detect.)

Very few evolutionary biologists would take that view. It is indeed a
simple explanation. Is it true? I don't really think so. If it is true
though then we are something rather special. It gives us more
resonsibility in many ways. still enough philosophising.

Is there, or has there been at any time an extraterrestrial presence?

No.

Agreed.

I feel that such episodes as Roswell hinder us in our
search for rational answers.

You're thinking of episodes of "The X Files," perhaps? In real life
there essentially was no such thing as a "Roswell episode." A farmer
sees a weather balloon or finds a bit of wreckage from a some mundane
experiment gone awry, and sometimes it catches on as an urban legend and
grows with years of retelling. Myths happen. Enjoy them as
entertainment, and quit taking them so seriously. Stop watching X Files
and start watching Myth Busters instead; it's healthier.

You must admitt there is a rumor machine. I will agree X files does
not help. It is right about one thing, there was a conspiracy. It is
wrong about the nature of that conspiracy. The conspiracy was to keep
the Black Sun alive and not to admit to the purchase of a pup.

"Polywell" fusion -- an approach to nuclear fusion that might actually work.
Learn more and discuss via: http://www.strout.net/info/science/polywell/

I must say I think mainstream fusion reasearch is much too narrow. It
has effectively limited itself to the Tokomak and also to deterium/
tritium. Helium 3 would emit PROTONS. A proton is charged and energy
can be extracted from it directly. I think you are probably right. Do
though keep your mind open to He3.


- Ian Parker

BTW - Machines can mine the Moon if that ever becomes necessary. You
don't need astronauts.

The best and most spendy as well as lethal fraud of the 20th century
is actually that of our mutually perpetrated cold-war, and of the
faith-based puppeteers in charge of our private parts.
- Brad Guth

"Uncle Al" wrote:
DAVID GREENE wrote:
"Uncle Al" wrote:

(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) = faith

No offense, Uncle Al, but of all the nutty things
you have said over the years that is the nuttiest.

Uncle Al can explain it to you but Uncle Al cannot understand it for
you. Science and religion are orthogonal. Here it is in baby steps.
Do the algebra,

Before we do the algebra let us take a look at yore
equation. And we will just forget about the religion
red herring you just now introduced since faith does
not necessarily equal religion.

So, assuming for sake of argument, yore equation is true
then by logical necessity every faith position must have a
consequent physical reality. Ergo, yore equation, if it is
true, proves the physical reallity of God. A very odd
position for you to take, Uncle Al. I think that Krell
brain boost turned you into a low grade moron ...

everything = science + religion

[snip irrelevancy]

One unskilled in the art might demand
everything = science + religion + money + power
but that is an overdetermined set.

ooooh, clever ... "bait and switch, bait and switch"

Let us agree, for sake of argument, that indeed
"everything = s + r + m + p" is overdetermined
but that does not logically imply that there are no
holes in "everything = s + r"

Well, I think we are done here, Uncle Al, and I have
a hard time believing that you are as dim as your post
seems to indicate. I'll bet you jest tryin' to have some
fun messin' around with peoples' minds.

Dave "movin' on" Greene

On 23 Jul, 21:11, BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 23, 9:36 am, Loogie wrote:
DAVID GREENE wrote:
"Uncle Al" wrote:
(Physical reality) - (empirical reality) = faith
No offense, Uncle Al, but of all the nutty things
you have said over the years that is the nuttiest.
Dave Greene
Quit insulting my father twit.
--
Contra-Shill #312
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The Energy Non-Crisis
PART 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk
PART 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGjbDjnNzw
PART 3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q39ic04vhNo
PART 4:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCyCYz_aHY
PART 5:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TYmSGwAumk
PART 6:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwMOvV6ctg
PART 7:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HGHsy3H_0
PART 8:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC61X78-OI0

John Perkins - Confessions of an Economic Hit Man athttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPoeQRewiE

Lies. It's All Lies -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5KSieH4Afc

We Know. We Know -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJpCezIsMpk
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Faith of one sort or another is what got us into most wars as well as
this never-ending energy and GW fiasco in the first place, and it's
faith that's puppeteering on behalf of sustaining each of their status
quo mindsets at all cost. Any possible revision of the past, present
or future simply isn't allowed, no matters what. The anti antigravity
cultism is simply another portion of that swarm like mindset that's
willing to kill even their own kind in order to keep those Old
Testament lids on tight.

Global warming has extensively to do with the lithobraking arrival of
our moon as of roughly 12,000 BP. However, on the behalf of various
lord/wizard/spook/mole/rusemaster (aka official Usenet naysayers),
I'll gladly say it again and again, with as much honest love and
affection as I can muster in spite of the mainstream gauntlet of flak
that's sustaining their status quo.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was correct, in that there's
endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other life
within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this crazy but
otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/nondisclosure
rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain to our
terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets or
moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.
In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.
How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

Your usual rant.
-
'foolsrushin.'

On Jul 24, 11:17 pm, "'foolsrushin.'" wrote:

Your usual rant.

Not at all, as here's a new and improved version:

The Good Ship LOLLIPOP and Carl Sagan / Arthur Clarke / Brad Guth

The traditional swarm mindset of our terrestrial limited faith-based
analogies of most everything under the sun is what I believe is
killing us and traumatising our environment past the point of no
return more than anything else. Why otherwise is there so much Old
Testament flak and their MIB damage-control gauntlet of such profound
naysayism to deal with?

Is it simply anti-Yiddish to openly think that Carl Sagan and Arthus
C. Clarke were actually more right than we'd thought possible?

It seems that faith of one sort or another is what got us into and
sustained most cold or hot wars, as well as this never-ending global
energy domination war and subsequent GW fiasco in the first place, and
it's this undertow of faith that's sucking the life out of us while
such has been puppeteering on behalf of sustaining each of their
status quo mindsets at all cost. Therefore, any possible revision of
the past, present or future simply isn't allowed, no matters what.
Their continual anti-ET, anti-antigravity and anti-FTL cultism are
simply another swarm like realms of a perverted mindset that's willing
to kill off even their own kind in order to keep those various Old
Testament lids on tight.

Earth's seasonal tilt and global warming has extensively to do with
the lithobraking arrival of our moon as of roughly 12,000 BP.
However, on the behalf of various lord/wizard/spook/mole/rusemaster
(aka official Usenet naysayers), I'll gladly share the following
review again and again, with as much honest love and affection as I
can muster in spite of the mainstream gauntlet of damage-control flak
that's sustaining their precious status quo.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye and subsequent
mindset of the beholder, as well as it's also why we've got to live
with their swarm mindset of our supposedly having walked on that
physically dark and unavoidably anticathode nasty moon of ours, while
all of that time Venus remained invisible as to any possible rad-hard
Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was absolutely correct, in that
there's endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other
life within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this
crazy but otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/
nondisclosure rated by even SETI, whereas the regular laws of physics
that pertain to our terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other
local planets or moons, especially if there's anything mainstream
faith-based taken into consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared, without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all
that's faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no
return. It's as though whatever laws of physics, the best available
science of planetology and even biology that works on behalf of
interpreting our terrestrial existence simply can not be applied on
behalf of any other planet or moon (including our own moon that's
simply need-to-know or entirely off-limits to anything except their
NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't even honestly contemplate utilizing
our moon's L1, much less the relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or
forbid ever having anything to do with establishing POOF City at Venus
L2(VL2) as our first truly interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly in
charge of our private parts as well as unwilling to look or even allow
of others to look outside their mainstream status quo box. This
leaves us with the one and only their global domination options of war
upon war until the last of whatever dissenting mindset has been
eliminated. Being that we'll all have to accept whatever the upper
most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else), doesn't exactly leave all
that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics and science as having
been made or otherwise forced to suit their faith-based
interpretations of whatever evidence, is simply the exposed tip of
their badly polluted iceberg that's clearly melting rather nicely
before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan and Arthur Clarke would each have to agree
that it's far better to hide or exclude whatever truth(s) by way of
excluding evidence, and/or to essentially lie your butt off than to
otherwise rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.

How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth