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On 19 Juni, 18:04, Sam wrote:
On Jun 19, 10:58*am, "Robert L. Oldershaw" wrote: An interesting discussion has started at sci.physics.research concerning the nature of the "arrow of time" Consider these Arrows *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time#Arrows Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none of those is however proved. But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and spatial. JT |
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On 7/2/10 2:08 PM, JT wrote:
On 19 Juni, 18:04, wrote: On Jun 19, 10:58 am, "Robert L. wrote: An interesting discussion has started at sci.physics.research concerning the nature of the "arrow of time" Consider these Arrows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time#Arrows Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. Sounds like a rock song from the 50s. Special relativity, like general relativity uses the three observed spatial dimensions plus a time dimension. Those relativity theories, as well as the modern physics theories, such as QED, enjoy the fact that there has never been an observation that contradicts a prediction of those theories. |
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On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote:
Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none of those is however proved. But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and spatial. Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower rates. Yousuf Khan |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... | On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote: | Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. | Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are | accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. | So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the | bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in | every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the | line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none | of those is however proved. | | But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will | measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And | that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special | relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that | can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and | spatial. | | Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really | saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical | reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower | rates. | | Yousuf Khan Well, if *you* think ab... but you can't, can you? A slower rate than what? Do you have any idea what a rate is? Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really saying is that there are longer metres than metres. | |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... | On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote: | Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. | Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are | accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. | So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the | bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in | every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the | line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none | of those is however proved. | | But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will | measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And | that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special | relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that | can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and | spatial. | | Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really | saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical | reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower | rates. | | Yousuf Khan Well, if *you* think ab... but you can't, can you? A slower rate than what? Do you have any idea what a rate is? Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really saying is that there are longer metres than metres. | |
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On Jul 2, 11:02*pm, eric gisse wrote:
On Jul 2, 11:02 pm, eric gisse wrote: If you read what I wrote more carefully you would have seen that I understand where the disparity originates. In fact I have written a paper on how to resolve the crisis: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0901/0901.3381.pdf Yoy might read this to edify yourself, Woofster. RLO www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw |
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Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
On Jul 2, 11:02 pm, eric gisse wrote: On Jul 2, 11:02 pm, eric gisse wrote: If you read what I wrote more carefully you would have seen that I understand where the disparity originates. I rather much doubt that, as you had just explicitly blamed GR and 'modern cosmology' as opposed to the theory that actually predicts it. In fact I have written a paper on how to resolve the crisis: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0901/0901.3381.pdf You have not shown that your resolution correctly replicates the Casimir effect. Or anything at all, for that matter. You just announce 'I've solved it!' while in reality, you've shown **** all. That your thoughts on the matter remain unpublished in anywhere of note is equally telling. Yoy might read this to edify yourself, Woofster. RLO www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message
... On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote: Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none of those is however proved. But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and spatial. "Yousuf Khan" wrote: Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower rates. hanson wrote: Yossi, you sing the song of the Einstein Dingleberries. You express & parrot fantasies of deranged Jews and abberant goyim kikeophiles. There is not a singe instant where, in the local, testable neighborhood, humankind has been able to accelerate any ponderable body, bigger then atoms to relativistic speeds. -- Consider, there are N_A, 6E23 atoms needed to produce a handful of dirt. That's the amount of mass needed to produce a real solid ~5" disk... for which your relativity fails pitifully... At least, you should toned your parroting down & said: To a (stationary) observer (outside the speeding frame) CBK processes may, perhaps, APPEAR to be slower. Also, Youssi, don't tell anybody that you can't be really sure what happened because of it's relativistic speed, that the disk went by you... Except that its hypersonic boom knocked you out of your chair, and that you are ever more grateful that the relativistically speeding disk did not hit you head on.... ahahahaha.... Of course, like all Einstein Dingleberries do, you may loudly disagree & prove your notion by simply providing the address of, and an interview with, Einstein's Younger Twin... Thanks for the laughs, Youssi... ahahahanson --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 2 Juli, 22:57, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 7/3/2010 1:08 AM, JT wrote: Well the spatial dimensions in special relativity is all ****ed up. Since events are not local they may not behave the way we are accustomed to but they will abey the logic of causality in some form. So we have a timeline that is a rubberband but the reality outside the bubble of universe is still stringent in fact it will be stringent in every point of universe that studies our universe it will follow the line of causality but with both spatial and timelike distorsion, none of those is however proved. But even if we suppose there is local timelines, the causality will measure and describe events in a logical consise and coherent way. And that is from any point that studies the event....s , in special relativity that is not the case however it is a faulthy theory, that can not give a coherent description of events separated by time and spatial. Well, if you think about it, in special relativity, all they are really saying is that causality is slowed down at relativistic speeds. Chemical reactions, biological processes, kinetic processes, all occur at slower rates. * * * * Yousuf Khan No they make predictions of spatial separation and timelike separation that do not occur in reality, it is a faulthy theory it can not be used to predict where an object in mapped space will be. It us totally useless for navigational or ballistical purposes at speeds close to c. It is proved again and again that relativists can not give an answer to what position and space, an object at relativestic place will occupy. They are all jugglers dropping bananas behind the curtain, basicly their theory allways was in freefall but because of the limitations of the gedankens noone ever noticed. Einstein never dared to juggle with more then two bananas, special relativity is a very limited theory it is not even a theory it is all a dreamwork. JT |
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You guys still havent answered my questions about chaos and fractals
in nature. If you have a dynamical system which "could" or even "will be" exhibiting chaotic or fractal geomatry in it's behaviour, or with respect to something happening on other scales, and suppose that it's not......... ..........do you still have a fractal ? Do you still call it chaos ? Is it possible to morph in and out of a fractal structure, or do you believe that the universe is locked into a particular modality - and why ? Most importantly - why ? Can you prove it to me in a way which is : reproducible falsifiable quantitative qualitative and predictive ????????????????? If you cannot, then you are just spewing diahhrea from the mouth. But I remain open to anyone who claims he can. |
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