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  #11  
Old August 31st 17, 02:46 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?


Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
  #12  
Old August 31st 17, 03:05 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Rob[_8_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?


Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!
  #13  
Old August 31st 17, 06:24 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?

Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!


Hogwash! You are entitled to your own opinion but you are NOT
entitled to your own data.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp


--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
  #14  
Old August 31st 17, 06:39 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Rob[_8_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?

Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!


Hogwash! You are entitled to your own opinion but you are NOT
entitled to your own data.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp


Now you are suddenly only considering hurricanes?
The number of lightning storms and unusual downpours is certainly
increasing here.
(of course this is not in the USA so not something you would consider)
  #15  
Old August 31st 17, 09:24 PM posted to sci.space.policy
jacob navia
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Le 30/08/2017 Ã* 19:47, jacob navia a écritÂ*:
The population is latino, then blacks, and asians. "Whites" make around
30% only. Mr Trump is known for his animosity against this populations,
specially the latinos.

Are they condemmed to die of thirst and hunger or what?


CNN:
quote
Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré -- who oversaw relief operations in New Orleans
after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 -- said that officials won't know the
true scale of the disaster until that door-to-door search is complete.
Honoré said that it was during those searches after Katrina that
authorities in New Orleans "really found the bad news."
"The worst is yet to come in terms of the outcome, which means people
stuck in their homes and we can't get them out, and they're isolated,"
he said.
end quote

The U.S. can't help those millions of people?

With all the gear they have?

Or is just that the billions of money needed to save those people aren't
worth the effort?

Let them die.

They were told to stay put. They should just do that.

Port Arthur has no running water, and there is no drinking water in
Houston either. There are now MILLIONS of people in this new lake.

And this prompts no one?

At least Mexico offered help to the U.S. (and other countries also).

All those millions of people must be evacuated, and it could be that it
is not a good idea to rebuild in the same place since waters are mounting.

A coincidence of warm waters in the Gulf, warmer atmosphere that holds
more water vapor, converts a tropical storm in a ferocious hurricane in
a few days, a hurricane that stays put forever above the city of Houston
and the south.

Global warming doesn't exist and some people here are predicting a cold
spell soon.

Just stay put and keep waiting.
  #16  
Old August 31st 17, 11:02 PM posted to sci.space.policy
jacob navia
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

I said:
Are they condemmed to die of thirst and hunger or what?

You said:
Your ignorance doesn't kill anyone, fortunately.


I know, my ignorance is immense. But please see this news on CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us...ons/index.html

Woman stranded in roof with no water or food.
  #17  
Old September 1st 17, 12:52 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Alain Fournier[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

On Aug/31/2017 at 1:24 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote :
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?

Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!


Hogwash! You are entitled to your own opinion but you are NOT
entitled to your own data.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp


Did you actually look at the site you cited?

Seasons with the most named storms, 1851 - Present
11 of 15 years given, or 73%, are in the past 25 years. By random
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the most hurricanes, 1851 - Present
5 out of 10 given, or 50%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the most major hurricanes, 1851 - Present
3 out of 8 given, or 38%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the highest Accumulated Cyclone Energy, 1851 - Present
4 out of 10 given, or 40%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

That's all the info given on that site. All of it showing that
we now having more severe weather than in the past.


Alain Fournier

  #18  
Old September 1st 17, 02:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?

Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!


Hogwash! You are entitled to your own opinion but you are NOT
entitled to your own data.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp


Now you are suddenly only considering hurricanes?
The number of lightning storms and unusual downpours is certainly
increasing here.


Cite? I'm calling bull****.


(of course this is not in the USA so not something you would consider)


So GLOBAL warming is local to where you live?


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
  #19  
Old September 1st 17, 02:11 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

jacob navia wrote:

I said:
Are they condemmed to die of thirst and hunger or what?

You said:
Your ignorance doesn't kill anyone, fortunately.


I know, my ignorance is immense. But please see this news on CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us...ons/index.html

Woman stranded in roof with no water or food.


So nothing about there not being food and water distribution, then.


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
  #20  
Old September 1st 17, 02:13 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default Houston Houston, do you hear me?

Alain Fournier wrote:

On Aug/31/2017 at 1:24 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote :
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
Rob wrote:

Fred J McCall wrote:
OK, you're adamantly ignorant. Your choice. Again, given global
warming, why do we not have constantly increasing storm power and
frequency (because we don't, you know)?

Because global warming only means the AVERAGE temperature is going
up. The ACTUAL temperature, both locally and globally, varies around
that average and is not higher everywhere and always.

Everyone except Donald and you understands that.


In other words, like all GCC True Believers, the evidence only matters
when you say it does. If the AVERAGE temperature is going up, the
AVERAGE storm should be more severe and the AVERAGE number should be
going up. Why are neither of those two things true?


But they ARE true!


Hogwash! You are entitled to your own opinion but you are NOT
entitled to your own data.

https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/top10.asp


Did you actually look at the site you cited?

Seasons with the most named storms, 1851 - Present
11 of 15 years given, or 73%, are in the past 25 years. By random
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the most hurricanes, 1851 - Present
5 out of 10 given, or 50%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the most major hurricanes, 1851 - Present
3 out of 8 given, or 38%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

Seasons with the highest Accumulated Cyclone Energy, 1851 - Present
4 out of 10 given, or 40%, are in the past 25 years. By random,
this should be about 15%.

That's all the info given on that site. All of it showing that
we now having more severe weather than in the past.


But it is not, as it should be if GCC is true and only water
temperature matters, monotonically increasing.


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
 




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