WHERE ARE THE ENSTEINIANS?

Lee Smolin asks this existential question in

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm

and suggests a reason why the species faces extinction:

Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered
Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his
own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's
insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative
motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same,
no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences
of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-
legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are
relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS
OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS
WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT."

The reason suggested by Lee Smolin is indirectly confirmed by John
Norton:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...UP_TimesNR.pdf
"What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the
Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there
is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The
constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect
homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a
special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same
velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to
general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of
light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his
preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS
AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD."

A search in Internet would show that, apart from a few bellicose
zombies, nobody has been defending Einstein's idiocies for the last
few months. Are Einsteinians really going to disappear? Something
similar has happened in thermodynamics:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00000313/ :
"In the eyes of many modern physicists, the theory has acquired a
somewhat dubious status. They regard classical thermodynamics as a
relic from a bygone era... Indeed, the view that thermodynamics is
obsolete is so common that many physicists use the phrase 'Second Law
of Thermodynamics' to denote some counterpart of this law in the
kinetic theory of gases or in statistical mechanics."

Judging from what has happened to thermodynamicists, Einsteinians have
not disappeared and will never disappear. Soon Einstein's relativity
will become "a relic from a bygone era" but countless experts on
String Theory, Doubly Special Relativity, Very Special Relativity,
Deformed Special Relativity, Quantum Gravity, Loop Quantum Gravity
etc. etc. will continue to develop what they call theoretical physics.
Nothing can stop them.

Pentcho Valev

On Sep 13, 10:20 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lee Smolin asks this existential question in

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm

and suggests a reason why the species faces extinction:

Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered
Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his
own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's
insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative
motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same,
no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences
of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-
legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are
relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS
OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS
WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT."

The reason suggested by Lee Smolin is indirectly confirmed by John
Norton:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...UP_TimesNR.pdf
"What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the
Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there
is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The
constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect
homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a
special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same
velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to
general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of
light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his
preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS
AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE
SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD."

A search in Internet would show that, apart from a few bellicose
zombies, nobody has been defending Einstein's idiocies for the last
few months. Are Einsteinians really going to disappear? Something
similar has happened in thermodynamics:

http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00000313/:
"In the eyes of many modern physicists, the theory has acquired a
somewhat dubious status. They regard classical thermodynamics as a
relic from a bygone era... Indeed, the view that thermodynamics is
obsolete is so common that many physicists use the phrase 'Second Law
of Thermodynamics' to denote some counterpart of this law in the
kinetic theory of gases or in statistical mechanics."

Judging from what has happened to thermodynamicists, Einsteinians have
not disappeared and will never disappear. Soon Einstein's relativity
will become "a relic from a bygone era" but countless experts on
String Theory, Doubly Special Relativity, Very Special Relativity,
Deformed Special Relativity, Quantum Gravity, Loop Quantum Gravity
etc. etc. will continue to develop what they call theoretical physics.
Nothing can stop them.

Pentcho Valev


But Einsteinian theoretics is claimed to be an authority relative to
the real world? So that makes it ok? It's a religion, how else make an
assumption teh lawz? It's become something like a cheap reproduction
of psychology? It's most pseudoscientific by definition thereof? Or
not?

I mean assumptions are useful but only if you treat them as such?

___
http://fototour.blogspot.com

On 13 Sept, 16:16, " wrote:
But Einsteinian theoretics is claimed to be an authority relative to
the real world?

Big Brother and Ignatius of Loyola can explain this:

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984":
"In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and
you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make
that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of
external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy
of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that
they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be
right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or
that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If
both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if
the mind itself is controllable what then?"

Ignatius of Loyola: "That we may in all things attain the truth, that
we may not err in anything, we ought ever to hold it a fixed
principle, that what I see white I believe to be black if the Romish
Church define it so to be."

Pentcho Valev

On Sep 13, 4:20 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lee Smolin asks this existential question in

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm

and suggests a reason why the species faces extinction:

Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered
Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his
own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's
insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative
motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same,
no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences
of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-
legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are
relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS
OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS
WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT."

And that's why the historical record shows he never explored
General Relativity or published his 1915 paper, instead
going back to the Patent Office.

Oops.

Have you ever understood *anything* you've read? Perhaps
you should start slowly, with children's books?

- Randy

"Randy Poe" wrote in message ups.com...
On Sep 13, 4:20 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lee Smolin asks this existential question in

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm

and suggests a reason why the species faces extinction:

Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered
Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his
own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's
insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative
motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same,
no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences
of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-
legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are
relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS
OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS
WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT."

And that's why the historical record shows he never explored
General Relativity or published his 1915 paper, instead
going back to the Patent Office.

Oops.

Have you ever understood *anything* you've read? Perhaps
you should start slowly, with children's books?

How do you expect him to understand the difference between
- children's books and inspired essays,
if he does not understand the differences between
- physicists and philosophers,
- coordinate time and proper time,
- invariance and constancy,
- special relativity and general relativity,
- teachers and hypnotists,
- laymen and zombies,
- a person being right and a theory being right,
- students and imbeciles,
- bad science and bad engineering,
- bad engineering and bad cost management,
- honing the foundations of a theory and fighting it,
- physics and linguistics,
- an article written in 1905 and a theory created in 1915,
- understanding a book and turning its pages,
- speed and relative (aka closing) speed,
- doing algebra and randomly writing down symbols,
- real life and a Usenet hobby group,
- receiving a detailed reply and being ignored,
- everyday concepts and scientific concepts in physics,
- the three things that smell like fish,
- inertial and non-inertial,
- speed and velocity,
- an article and a book,
- relativity and disguised ether addiction,
- algebra and analytic geometry,
- kneeling down and bending over,
- local and global,
- a sycophant in English and in French,
- a relation and an equation,
- massive and massless particles,
- a Mexican poncho and a Sears poncho,
- implication and equivalence,
- group velocity and phase velocity,
- science and religion
?

Dirk Vdm

"Randy Poe" wrote in message
ups.com...
: On Sep 13, 4:20 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
: Lee Smolin asks this existential question in
:
: http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm
:
: and suggests a reason why the species faces extinction:
:
: Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered
: Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his
: own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's
: insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative
: motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same,
: no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences
: of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-
: legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are
: relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS
: OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS
: WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT."
:
: And that's why the historical record shows he never explored
: General Relativity or published his 1915 paper, instead
: going back to the Patent Office.
:
: Oops.
:
: Have you ever understood *anything* you've read? Perhaps
: you should start slowly, with children's books?
:
Here's one for you since you can't tell the time:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ket/Rocket.htm

Dans ton cul !