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Old July 22nd 09, 07:08 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
Yousuf Khan
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions during solareclipses

Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.

July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...y-anomaly.html

I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.

Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipse
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html

Yousuf Khan
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Old July 22nd 09, 07:47 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions duringsolar eclipses

On Jul 22, 8:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.

July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan...

I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.

Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html

* * * * Yousuf Khan


The Sun pulls the Moon gravitationally much stronger than Earth pulls
our Moon.

Yet the Moon remains in orbit around Earth.

Because of the orbital speed of Earth and the Moon (over 100 thousand
kilometers an hour around the Sun, All of the Suns's gravitation is
cancelled
out. Thus the solar eclipse will not have any effect on Earth's
gravity.They
should know that.
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Old July 22nd 09, 07:54 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions duringsolar eclipses

On Jul 22, 8:47*am, gb wrote:
On Jul 22, 8:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:





Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.


July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan....


I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.


Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html


* * * * Yousuf Khan


The Sun pulls the Moon gravitationally much stronger than Earth pulls
our Moon.

Yet the Moon remains in orbit around Earth.

Because of the orbital speed of Earth and the Moon (over 100 thousand
kilometers an hour around the Sun, All of the Suns's gravitation is
cancelled
out. Thus the solar eclipse will not have any effect on Earth's
gravity.They
should know that.


The effect is the same as an astronaut out is space around Earth
caught
by Earth's gravity to fall toward Earth will not feel anything that
his direction
or speed changed.However the Moon makes tides on Earth, the Sun which
has a much stronger gravity on our Moon than Earth on the Moon does
not
cause tides on Earth or has no effect on tides. Isn't that strange?
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Old July 22nd 09, 08:18 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Why Tides happen only by moon not by Sun.

On Jul 22, 11:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.

July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan...

I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.

Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html

* * * * Yousuf Khan


Doing this experiment do not need Eclipse. This experiment can be done
on any day.

See gravity when Full Moon and moon on top and then see gravity when
moon not present.

Tides are caused by difference in gravity. Since Gravity proportional
to r^2. For Sun the gravity difference is very small so no tides are
seen due to Sun.

While moon is very near than earth The Gravity difference is large and
We see tides.

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Old July 22nd 09, 08:51 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions duringsolar eclipses

On Jul 22, 8:54*am, gb wrote:
On Jul 22, 8:47*am, gb wrote:



On Jul 22, 8:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:


Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.


July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan...


I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.


Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html


* * * * Yousuf Khan


The Sun pulls the Moon gravitationally much stronger than Earth pulls
our Moon.


Yet the Moon remains in orbit around Earth.


Because of the orbital speed of Earth and the Moon (over 100 thousand
kilometers an hour around the Sun, All of the Suns's gravitation is
cancelled
out. Thus the solar eclipse will not have any effect on Earth's
gravity.They
should know that.


The effect is the same as an astronaut out is space around Earth
caught
by Earth's gravity to fall toward Earth will not feel anything that
his direction
or speed changed.However the Moon makes tides on Earth, the Sun which
has a much stronger gravity on our Moon than Earth on the Moon does
not
cause tides on Earth or has no effect on tides. Isn't that strange?


-----------------
the moon is much closer to earth!
and the 1/R^2
works as well

Y.P
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Old July 22nd 09, 09:16 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Why Tides happen only by moon not by Sun.

In sci.astro Sanny wrote:
Tides are caused by difference in gravity. Since Gravity proportional
to r^2. For Sun the gravity difference is very small so no tides are
seen due to Sun.


This will come as a surprise to all the people who have been mathematically
predicting tides for the past 200 years.

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we get." There is no magical basis to the universe.
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Old July 22nd 09, 09:19 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions duringsolar eclipses

On Jul 22, 8:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.

July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan...

I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.

Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html

* * * * Yousuf Khan


----------------------
now please note the anomaly
because one would expect rather
some growth in gravity
why?

because during the eclipse
you have the mass of the sun
plus the mass of the moon
on the line connection all the three
masses
as if instead the case of earh and sun
now you have some combination of massed
of sun plus moon
acting on earth ???
so if not so
it means that

GRAVITY IS INFLUENCED BY SPECIFIC
GEOMETRY COMBINATION SITUATION !!

ATB
Y.Porat
-------------------------

ATB
Y.Porat
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Old July 22nd 09, 09:37 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions duringsolar eclipses

On Jul 22, 10:19*am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Jul 22, 8:08*am, Yousuf Khan wrote:



Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth. During yesterday's solar
eclipse they setup several experiments in China to determine if gravity
was influenced.


July eclipse is best chance to look for gravity anomaly - space - 19
July 2009 - New Scientist
"From remote observatories on the Tibetan plateau to a cave in a
Shanghai suburb, Chinese researchers are poised to conduct an audacious
once-in-a-century experiment. The plan is to test a controversial
theory: the possibility that gravity drops slightly during a total eclipse."http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17481-july-eclipse-is-best-chan....


I say that they've "latched onto this idea" because this isn't the first
time they have done this experiment. They had apparently tried the same
experiments back during an African solar eclipse in June 2001. Prior to
that they tried in Feb 1980, May 1985, and also Mar 1997.


Chinese Scientists Gravitate Towards African Solar Eclipsehttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-01zi.html


* * * * Yousuf Khan


----------------------
now please note the anomaly
because one would expect rather
some growth * in gravity
why?

because during the eclipse
you have the mass of the sun
plus the mass of the moon
on the line connection all the three
masses
as if instead the case of earh and sun
now you have some combination of massed
of sun plus moon
acting on earth * * ???
so if not so
it means that

GRAVITY IS INFLUENCED BY SPECIFIC
GEOMETRY COMBINATION SITUATION *!!

ATB
Y.Porat
-------------------------

sorry sorry typo
before someone else will catch me
(:-)

if sun plus moon are on line with earth
we should expect rather
a decrease in OUR gravitation on
earth!!

Y.Porat
-------------------------



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Old July 22nd 09, 09:49 AM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Why Tides happen only by moon not by Sun.


"Nomen Publicus" wrote in message
news
In sci.astro Sanny wrote:
Tides are caused by difference in gravity. Since Gravity proportional
to r^2. For Sun the gravity difference is very small so no tides are
seen due to Sun.


This will come as a surprise to all the people who have been
mathematically
predicting tides for the past 200 years.


Yep
http://easytide.ukho.gov.uk/EASYTIDE...ionLength= 72 meters difference is very much due to relative position of Sun and Moon.

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Old July 22nd 09, 01:07 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default Chinese scientists keep testing for gravity reductions during solar eclipses

Yousuf Khan wrote:

Looks like Chinese scientists have latched onto the idea that a solar
eclipse causes gravity to decrease on Earth.


[...]

Allais effect redux. Maybe this time they'll find something, unlike the last
half dozen times where they - at best - conflicting data if anything at all.

 




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