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Old October 30th 10, 06:29 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On Oct 27, 3:19*pm, Rick Jones wrote:

Let me guess - they thought it would launch from a secret site in a
volcano on a Japanese island?


I saw that movie. Nancy Sinatra did the theme song.

John Savard
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Old October 30th 10, 06:33 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On Oct 27, 1:35*pm, Ian Parker wrote:

You have a touching faith in private enterprise. Private enterprise
can do amazing things, it set Google up. Private enterprise though :-

1) Cannot work miracles.
2) Is out to make a profit.


Exactly.

There was supposed to be this big conspiracy, hiding Nazi plans to
make oil at $5 a barrel from coal, after OPEC raised its prices.

But since the cost to the Arabs of pumping oil out of the ground was
below $5, even if their price was well above $5, someone building such
a plant would have no way of selling the oil it made - the Arabs would
drop their price to $4.98 when it became operational.

The same problem applies to mining and refining rare earths in the
United States.

There are things that governments have to do.

John Savard
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Old October 30th 10, 06:54 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On 30 Oct, 06:33, Quadibloc wrote:
On Oct 27, 1:35*pm, Ian Parker wrote:

You have a touching faith in private enterprise. Private enterprise
can do amazing things, it set Google up. Private enterprise though :-


1) Cannot work miracles.
2) Is out to make a profit.


Exactly.

There was supposed to be this big conspiracy, hiding Nazi plans to
make oil at $5 a barrel from coal, after OPEC raised its prices.

But since the cost to the Arabs of pumping oil out of the ground was
below $5, even if their price was well above $5, someone building such
a plant would have no way of selling the oil it made - the Arabs would
drop their price to $4.98 when it became operational.

The same problem applies to mining and refining rare earths in the
United States.

There are things that governments have to do.

The same applies to solar power as well. The policy for Western
governments is quite clear. You set the price of oil to the consumer
at the solar price, or a little bit above. If the Arabs reduce the
price a Western Government should impose a tax so that alternatives to
oil are not priced out of the market. W Governments can never allow
the Arabs, or the Chinese to hold them to ransom.

It seems to me odd that the right has insisted on military forces
strong enough to beat the Chinese, but have not addressed the "rare
earth" vulnerabity.


- Ian Parker
 




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