MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT: LIES AND TRUTH

Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.
Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's
emission theory of light. If you are approaching a car that's moving
30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the approaching
car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are
traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of
light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving
directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c.

Pentcho Valev

Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.
Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the
go home
as well, the approaching
car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are
traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of
light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving
directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c.

Pentcho Valev

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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.
Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the
go home
as well, the approaching
car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are
traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of
light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving
directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c.

Pentcho Valev

On Jul 16, 5:07*am, "Androcles" wrote:
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"John Jones" wrote in message

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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.
Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the
go home
as well, the approaching
car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are
traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of
light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving
directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c.

Pentcho Valev
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Im genuinely curious. Why did you decide to explain your actions?
(being from alt.philosophy).

BOfL

On Jul 15, 10:12 am, "Whoever" wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
"Pentcho Valev" wrote:

Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.

That's not a valid summary .. their experiment is consistent with that
conclusion, but it did not show that that was the only explanation. What it
did rule out was an absolute fixed ether.

Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's
emission theory of light.

That's not a valid summary .. their experiment is consistent with that
conclusion, but it did not show that that was the only explanation. What it
did rule out was an absolute fixed ether.

Typical reasoning in the era of Postscientism: 2+2=5 is correct, 2+2=4
is correct as well. In fact, in 1887, the Michelson-Morley experiment
was consistent with the thesis "The speed of light varies with the
speed of the light source v in accordance with the equation c'=c+v
given by Newton's emission theory of light" and inconsistent with the
antithesis "The speed of light is independent of the speed of the
light source". Then FitzGerald, Lorentz and Einstein procrusteanized
the reality (introduced length contraction, time dilation etc.) so as
to make the Michelson-Morley experiment inconsistent with the thesis
and consistent with the antithesis. In the end, the antithesis became
"the linchpin that holds the whole range of modern physics theories
together":

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "Einstein's special relativity theory with his second
postulate that the speed of light in space is constant is the linchpin
that holds the whole range of modern physics theories together.
Shatter this postulate, and modern physics becomes an elaborate
farce!....The speed of light is c+v."

Albert Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by
the speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and
theory of gravity is false."

http://www.buy.com/prod/faster-than-.../31065101.html
Joao Magueijo: "A missile fired from a plane moves faster than one
fired from the ground because the plane's speed adds to the missile's
speed. If I throw something forward on a moving train, its speed with
respect to the platform is the speed of that object plus that of the
train. You might think that the same should happen to light: Light
flashed from a train should travel faster. However, what the Michelson-
Morley experiments showed was that this was not the case: Light always
moves stubbornly at the same speed. This means that if I take a light
ray and ask several observers moving with respect to each other to
measure the speed of this light ray, they will all agree on the same
apparent speed! Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity was in
part a response to this astonishing result. What Einstein realized was
that if c did not change, then something else had to give. That
something was the idea of universal and unchanging space and time.
This is deeply, maddeningly counterintuitive. In our everyday lives,
space and time are perceived as rigid and universal. Instead, Einstein
conceived of space and time-space-time-as a thing that could flex and
change, expanding and shrinking according to the relative motions of
the observer and the thing observed. The only aspect of the universe
that didn't change was the speed of light. And ever since, the
constancy of the speed of light has been woven into the very fabric of
physics, into the way physics equations are written, even into the
notation used. Nowadays, to "vary" the speed of light is not even a
swear word: It is simply not present in the vocabulary of physics.
Hundreds of experiments have verified this basic tenet, and the theory
of relativity has become central to our understanding of how the
universe works."

Pentcho Valev

"BOfL" wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 5:07 am, "Androcles" wrote:
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wish to converse with or even poke fun at. Some weirdoes are not kill-
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dumb bird to scratch dirt, step back, look down, step forward to the
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This should not trouble you, many of those plonked find it a blessing
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I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't,
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"John Jones" wrote in message

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Pentcho Valev wrote:
Lies:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/204892
"In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed that the
speed of light is always the same (now known to be 186,282 miles per
second) relative to stationary observers as well as moving ones.
Nothing but light has this property: if you are approaching a car
that's moving 30 miles per hour, and you're moving 30mph as well, the
approaching car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. Not so with
light. If you are traveling at the speed of light, designated c,
toward a light beam moving directly toward you, it appears to be
approaching at c, not 2c."

Truth:

In their namesake experiment, Albert Michelson (a physicist who won
the Nobel Prize in 1907) and Edward Morley (a chemist) showed (without
knowing it) that the speed of light varies with the speed of the light
source v in accordance with the
go home
as well, the approaching
car appears to be coming at you at 60 mph. So with light. If you are
traveling at the speed of light, designated c where c is the speed of
light relative to the light source, toward a light beam moving
directly toward you, it appears to be approaching at 2c.

Pentcho Valev
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Im genuinely curious. Why did you decide to explain your actions?
(being from alt.philosophy).

BOfL
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