Zubrin and Park will debate!

"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:

Rand is right. "Zubrin vs. Park, on the subject of space policy" is about
as interesting as "Beavis vs. Butt-head, on the subject of hot chicks."

B V. B is actually *more* interesting.

D.
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In article ,
Derek Lyons wrote:
(Greg Kuperberg) wrote:
What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?
Care to actually answer the question?

If you want my honest answer: Some people at the APS, including but
by no means limited to Robert Park, know a lot about space policy.
And one indication of that is the querulous, knee-jerk dismissals that
show up around here. It seems that the mere mention of Robert Park's
name, without any discussion of what he's been saying lately, inflames
a sore spot.

The one that surprises me though is Robert Zubrin. He once had zealous
fans in this newsgroup, and I figured that it made sense, because he's
a zealot himself. It seems that even he is too level-headed for
some people.
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In article ,
Derek Lyons wrote:
(Greg Kuperberg) wrote:
What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?
Care to actually answer the question?

If you want my honest answer: Some people at the APS, including but
by no means limited to Robert Park, know a lot about space policy.
And one indication of that is the querulous, knee-jerk dismissals that
show up around here. It seems that the mere mention of Robert Park's
name, without any discussion of what he's been saying lately, inflames
a sore spot.

The one that surprises me though is Robert Zubrin. He once had zealous
fans in this newsgroup, and I figured that it made sense, because he's
a zealot himself. It seems that even he is too level-headed for
some people.
--
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/ \
\ / Visit the Math ArXiv Front at http://front.math.ucdavis.edu/
\/ * All the math that's fit to e-print *

(Greg Kuperberg) wrote in message ...
Space policy will have its own version of King Kong vs. Godzilla at the
Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington on Thursday, February 5,
beginning at 5:30PM. Namely, a debate between Robert Zubrin and Robert
Park. If you haven't read this newsgroup much, Zubrin is president of the
Mars Society. He advocates an aggressive program of human spaceflight,
especially a manned mission to Mars. Park maintains that manned
spaceflight is a national distraction and a waste of taxpayer money.
He is Director for Public Information at the American Physical Society.
They will debate President Bush's new space plan and manned spaceflight
in general.

This should be interesting. The Economist agrees with Park, and says
that the money should be spent on "science". However, as "Science", I
don't see how learning to live in space is any less valid than
learning how Quasars operate (for example), and in the medium term, it
cold be a whole lot more useful.

So as far as this goes I agree with Zubrin - I would also advocatre an
aggressive program of human spaceflight, though I would leave Mars
until we have the capability to make it more than just flags and
footprints.

(Greg Kuperberg) wrote in message ...
Space policy will have its own version of King Kong vs. Godzilla at the
Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington on Thursday, February 5,
beginning at 5:30PM. Namely, a debate between Robert Zubrin and Robert
Park. If you haven't read this newsgroup much, Zubrin is president of the
Mars Society. He advocates an aggressive program of human spaceflight,
especially a manned mission to Mars. Park maintains that manned
spaceflight is a national distraction and a waste of taxpayer money.
He is Director for Public Information at the American Physical Society.
They will debate President Bush's new space plan and manned spaceflight
in general.

This should be interesting. The Economist agrees with Park, and says
that the money should be spent on "science". However, as "Science", I
don't see how learning to live in space is any less valid than
learning how Quasars operate (for example), and in the medium term, it
cold be a whole lot more useful.

So as far as this goes I agree with Zubrin - I would also advocatre an
aggressive program of human spaceflight, though I would leave Mars
until we have the capability to make it more than just flags and
footprints.

Rand Simberg wrote:

What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?

What did that kid know about clothing design for emperors?

Paul

Rand Simberg wrote:

What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?

What did that kid know about clothing design for emperors?

Paul

"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message
...
Rand Simberg wrote:

What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?

What did that kid know about clothing design for emperors?

Now that was the grandaddy of wardrobe malfunctions.

Joe

"Paul F. Dietz" wrote in message
...
Rand Simberg wrote:

What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?

What did that kid know about clothing design for emperors?

Now that was the grandaddy of wardrobe malfunctions.

Joe

On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:22:09 +0000 (UTC), in a place far, far away,
(Greg Kuperberg) made the phosphor on
my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

In article ,
Derek Lyons wrote:
(Greg Kuperberg) wrote:
What does the American Physical Society know about space policy?
Care to actually answer the question?

If you want my honest answer: Some people at the APS, including but
by no means limited to Robert Park, know a lot about space policy.
And one indication of that is the querulous, knee-jerk dismissals that
show up around here. It seems that the mere mention of Robert Park's
name, without any discussion of what he's been saying lately, inflames
a sore spot.

I've heard what he has to say lately, and it's the same tired song
he's been singing for years. What's to discuss?

The one that surprises me though is Robert Zubrin. He once had zealous
fans in this newsgroup,

He still does. I was never one of them.

and I figured that it made sense, because he's
a zealot himself. It seems that even he is too level-headed for
some people.

laughing