...Nuclear MELTDOWN in Japan, is US Threatened???

On May 6, 4:05*pm, herbert glazier wrote:
On May 6, 10:18*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On May 6, 6:23*am, bob haller wrote:

Japan is shutting down another nuke plant this one near tokyo because
of the risk of future earthquakes.

How long till the US makes similiar decisions?

Hey hand me those coffin nails the nuke power industry will be needing
them

Nuke energy plants built by the ruling GOP/ZNR Mafia of the cold-war
era, where 90% gets spent on looks and 10% on what's really needed,
are in fact at risk. *However, Japan is resting on the most unstable
area of plate tectonics, so if any place on Earth needs to be most
sensitive and advanced towards failsafe alternatives, it would have to
be Japan. *They have no excuse, and now they're screwed along with a
good portion of Earth becoming unusable or too toxic for most of us.
They should be forced to pay trillions and never allowed to be in
charge of their own energy if it's of any sort that puts us and the
global environment at risk.

All reactors need to get replaced or upgraded to at least the AP-1000
standard, and preferably run on thorium instead of uranium.

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Right now its a great cover up *Watch for birds and fish. There dying
and its "On the Beach" and take your Tang * * TreBert

For the most part, contributor "Warhol" has done a perfectly fine job
of keeping us aware of all the ongoing and pending doom that's getting
the best of us. This doesn't have to mean that our trusty doom and
gloom Warhol is always right about everything else.

We need our bloated government and their FUD masters (aka Mafia GOP/
ZNRs) as much as possible out of most other nations before they too
consider a version of 9/11 in order to get our undivided attention.

There's no valid excuse for our nation to be short of local energy, to
do as we please without our having to depend on others (such as Canada
or any of those oily Arab nations). William Mook (aka Mokenergy)
alone could make our nation a global energy exporter.

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reactor 1 at 700 milliserverts, another plant has reactors being shut
down at government request.... not the fukashima plant a different one

japanese government is bailing out the power company TEPCO to cover
damages from nuke plant disaster.

would the US government if confronted by a simiar situation in say
new york area have the ability to pay off the millions of people hurt?

Now that would be a real federal budget buster.

Millions of homes uninhabitible, downtown NY lost, such a event would
make katrna look like a drip in the ocean. and nearly no one has
insurance that covers nuke accident or acts of war...

In article 4baac3e8-6b62-4d0d-9c88-ba0775752914
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japanese government is bailing out the power company TEPCO to cover
damages from nuke plant disaster.

would the US government if confronted by a simiar situation in say
new york area have the ability to pay off the millions of people hurt?

Now that would be a real federal budget buster.

Millions of homes uninhabitible, downtown NY lost, such a event would
make katrna look like a drip in the ocean. and nearly no one has
insurance that covers nuke accident or acts of war...

Off to the killfile for you. I'm sick and tired of your gloom and doom
predictions and quite obviously off-topic what-if crap.

Jeff
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Spencer 1/28/2011

On May 11, 8:14*am, Jeff Findley wrote:
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@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...



japanese government is bailing out the power company TEPCO to cover
damages from nuke plant disaster.

would the US government if confronted by *a simiar situation in say
new york area have the ability to pay off the millions of people hurt?

Now that would be a real federal budget buster.

Millions of homes uninhabitible, downtown NY lost, such a event would
make katrna look like a drip in the ocean. and nearly no one has
insurance that covers nuke accident or acts of war...

Off to the killfile for you. *I'm sick and tired of your gloom and doom
predictions and quite obviously off-topic what-if crap.

Jeff

Thats fine but do consider the US can barely afford a space program as
is

But if we have a nuke disaster the taxpayers will be footing the bill,
and that cost can be so high space programs will be ignored, instead
whaty money there is will be paying for stuff like reloacting people
added healthcare costs etc...

Nuclear fuel at Fukushima No. 1 unit melted after full exposure
TOKYO, May 12, Kyodo

Water inside the troubled No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear power plant was at an unexpectedly low level, not enough to
cover the nuclear fuel, hinting that a large part of the fuel melted
after being fully exposed, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday
based on data obtained by adjusted gauges.


But the plant operator said the water at the bottom of the reactor
pressure vessel holding the fuel is keeping the melted fuel cool,
assuring that the company is succeeding in preventing the reactor's
fuel from overheating by injecting water from outside.


Based on the latest data after workers adjusted gauges for measuring
the water level at the reactor, water could not be confirmed inside
the pressure vessel at a point 5 meters below where the top of the 4-
meter-long fuel rods normally are, according to the utility also known
as TEPCO.

On May 11, 12:47*pm, bob haller wrote:
On May 11, 8:14*am, Jeff Findley wrote:









In article 4baac3e8-6b62-4d0d-9c88-ba0775752914
@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...

japanese government is bailing out the power company TEPCO to cover
damages from nuke plant disaster.

would the US government if confronted by *a simiar situation in say
new york area have the ability to pay off the millions of people hurt?

Now that would be a real federal budget buster.

Millions of homes uninhabitible, downtown NY lost, such a event would
make katrna look like a drip in the ocean. and nearly no one has
insurance that covers nuke accident or acts of war...

Off to the killfile for you. *I'm sick and tired of your gloom and doom
predictions and quite obviously off-topic what-if crap.

Jeff

Thats fine but do consider the US can barely afford a space program as
is

But if we have a nuke disaster the taxpayers will be footing the bill,
and that cost can be so high space programs will be ignored, instead
whaty money there is will be paying for stuff like reloacting people
added healthcare costs etc...

But you believe everything our government agencies like NASA or DoD
has to say, so obviously you are a total hypocrite and/or a FUD
master.

The consumers and taxpayers have always been paying for everything
anyway (especially paying for corporate screw ups, including
government screw ups), so what exactly is your point?

Why not do energy the right way to begin with, and maintain it that
way?

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Actually group reactors can be more failsafe than any single isolated
reactor, because if one should fail the others can pick up the load
and basically act as the primary power backup. *Even the ultimate
backup APU should be a small but extremely robust reactor module
(similar to that of a submarine reactor) that could survive a category
10+ seismic event, as well as function while being totally submerged
shouldn't be a problem.

reactors grouped together are unsafe! If a single reactor at a multi
reactor plant has a meltdown or high level radiation release for ANY
reason, the plant operators must be evacuated for their own safety.

which leaves a entire multi reactor plant with no controlers...

While looking back we see the obvious reactor poor designs they ran OK
for 40 years.

a new design reactor built today may have such a issue in the future.

I am not discounting the hazards of anything but other than a failed
nuke power plant what can make a entire region uninhabitible???

basically overnight?

nuke power has promised near free power since the industry began..

how about the waste? that still hasnt been addressed. and mining raw
materials for nuke power has issues of its own.........

nuke power, it sounded great but its really too hazardous to use

On May 12, 9:12*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On May 11, 12:47*pm, bob haller wrote:





On May 11, 8:14*am, Jeff Findley wrote:

In article 4baac3e8-6b62-4d0d-9c88-ba0775752914
@j28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com, says...

japanese government is bailing out the power company TEPCO to cover
damages from nuke plant disaster.

would the US government if confronted by *a simiar situation in say
new york area have the ability to pay off the millions of people hurt?

Now that would be a real federal budget buster.

Millions of homes uninhabitible, downtown NY lost, such a event would
make katrna look like a drip in the ocean. and nearly no one has
insurance that covers nuke accident or acts of war...

Off to the killfile for you. *I'm sick and tired of your gloom and doom
predictions and quite obviously off-topic what-if crap.

Jeff

Thats fine but do consider the US can barely afford a space program as
is

But if we have a nuke disaster the taxpayers will be footing the bill,
and that cost can be so high space programs will be ignored, instead
whaty money there is will be paying for stuff like reloacting people
added healthcare costs etc...

But you believe everything our government agencies like NASA or DoD
has to say, so obviously you are a total hypocrite and/or a FUD
master.

The consumers and taxpayers have always been paying for everything
anyway (especially paying for corporate screw ups, including
government screw ups), so what exactly is your point?

Why not do energy the right way to begin with, and maintain it that
way?

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Theres NO WAY to be 100% safe with nuclear, and 99.8% safe isnt safe
at all.

imagine NY city area suddenly uninhabitible, bin ladens WTC would be
forgotten.....

Nuke plants are idea terrorism targets

So theres a dead zone for 70 miles around your city, where you moving
too? hpw will you pay for all your losses?

The economic effects alone of such a disastewr would likely put us
into a complete depression