What's wrong with there being ETs (smarter than us none the less)

On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:
"Ian Parker" wrote in message

oups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing. In this
case it is tenuous ionized gas. The system, as is every system, is
invariant under SU2. If the ionosphere were to suddenly move at half
the speed of light, the result would be exactly the same referred to
that frame. That is what invariance under SU2 means effectively.

The remarkable step which Dirac took was to say OK Schroedinger's
equation is not relativistically invariant. I am going to construct
one that is. Antimatter thus arises directly from SU2. Everything has
been verified. Of course Neil Armstrong may not have landed on the
Moon and all the people at CERN etc, be part of some gigantic
conspiracy.


- Ian Parker

On Jun 26, 10:45 am, Ian Parker wrote:
On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:

"Ian Parker" wrote in message

roups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing. In this
case it is tenuous ionized gas. The system, as is every system, is
invariant under SU2. If the ionosphere were to suddenly move at half
the speed of light, the result would be exactly the same referred to
that frame. That is what invariance under SU2 means effectively.

The remarkable step which Dirac took was to say OK Schroedinger's
equation is not relativistically invariant. I am going to construct
one that is. Antimatter thus arises directly from SU2. Everything has
been verified. Of course Neil Armstrong may not have landed on the
Moon and all the people at CERN etc, be part of some gigantic
conspiracy.

- Ian Parker

As the understanding goes, the odd spin structure (P,P)
is the only structure with gauge bosonic activity between
multiverses. Likewise, the same tori structure represents
the electron: the rotational structure for the inertial
mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy
flux is a favorite representation in the "torus of time"
scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that
uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric
(invariant). These systems describe a microcosm of the grav-
ity wave phenomenon presently being studied.

It would seem that the odd spin structure is the only struc-
ture to hypertranslate between multiverses, but how? How
can a self-same consciousness be restored unless a self-
similarity becomes generated thru Sierpinski fractalization?
The idea of prime factorization is used to establish the
set of common primes between any harmonic of 78557*(2**n)+1,
so that all the set of [3, 5, 7, 13, 19, 37, 73] can be fac-
tored into ANY WHOLE VALUE OF n thru the self-similarity of
individual components within the above parameter. Notice any-
thing unique about the above set? There are exactly 7 members
in the set, if formed by a composite, odd integer k value within
the group of k*(2**n)+1, for all positive integer n. These
are the Sierpinski numbers - all odd and multiples of the
basis set of seven. If initially setting k = 78557, there
are some very interesting number sequences that crop up as
Sierpinski fractalizations: The "k" sequence, 78557, is prac-
tically situated near the Schumann resonance, 78300, which
lands within 257 of the Sierpinski "k". How convenient is this?
The speed of light harmonic, 144, or 143,888.1 minutes of arc
per geodyne second, when divided by 60 (minutes per 15 de-
grees), equals 35972.025 degrees, or 627.830284 pi radians.
2C minutes amount to 26.64594 pi radians, or 4.2408366
whole spins. Therefore,

(4.2408366)((33.9440 x 10**-4 cps) = .1439509 cps,
which is the harmonic resonance decompression frequency
related to the life force radius in the LOCAL geodyne.
This frequency must be correlated with the earth harmonic
resonance frequency, which is 627.830284/(2*pi)=99.922cps,
so that (.1439509 cps)(99.922 cps) = 14.38390 cps, which,
incidentally, is very close to the 2X Schumann resonance fre-
quency, but being associated with the 2X harmonic of the MASS
DISSOLUTION frequency around 7.1 Hz. Could the decompression
sequence accomodate a U_65 uniform polyhedron "great
dodecahemicosahedron", a harmonically symmetrical, nonconvex
uniform polyhedron, isomorphic to the hemicosahedron, or
hendecatope, whose circumradius is phi**(-1) for each unit
edge in 11 dimensions, where "phi" is the golden ratio, with
the ability to transform the complete mass geodymically thru
dissolution into a 4-space resonance? The Wythoff symbol for
the great dodecahemicosahedron is 5/4,5|3, meaning that these
three rational numbers can be used to describe uniform polyhedra
PQR, based on how a point C in a spherical triangle PQR can be
selected so as to trace the vertices of regular polygonal faces.
C lies on the arc 5/4,5, and the bisector of the opposite
angle 3. The angles associated with this particular arc and
bisector are the same for both crystallographic representations
PQR and QPR. Both would seem to represent opposite rotations
or mirror representations of the same polyhedra. The spherical
triangle PQR (5/4,5|3) has spherical triangle C on the arc PQ
with the bisector on the opposite angle Q, with any one of the
angles (5/4)(i)/(5/4), (5/4)(i)/5_q, or (5/4)(i)/3_r defining
one particular set of aspects or polarization sequences of the
great dodecahemicosahedron.

We're looking at these designs, and "designs within designs"
in order to grasp some theoretical basis for developing a
coherent physical theory of "Propulsion Applied Electrogravitic
Crystallography".

Can I put a price tag on the work that I've put into this?


American

"Ian Parker" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:
"Ian Parker" wrote in message

oups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing.


Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
Light, electromagnetism, needs as much media as the Earth and Moon does
to orbit the Sun: none at all. Any medium only gets in the way, dust laden
thin air scatters blue light and red light becomes attenuated.
See blue sky.
See red sunset.
See Spot run.
You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all.

"Ian Parker" wrote in message
ups.com...
On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:
"Ian Parker" wrote in message

oups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing.


Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
Light, electromagnetism, needs as much media as the Earth and Moon does
to orbit the Sun: none at all. Any medium only gets in the way, dust laden
thin air scatters blue light and red light becomes attenuated.
See blue sky.
See red sunset.
See Spot run.
You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.

On Jun 26, 10:59 am, "Androcles" wrote:
"Ian Parker" wrote in message

ups.com...
On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:

"Ian Parker" wrote in message

roups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
Light, electromagnetism, needs as much media as the Earth and Moon does
to orbit the Sun: none at all. Any medium only gets in the way, dust laden
thin air scatters blue light and red light becomes attenuated.
See blue sky.
See red sunset.
See Spot run.
You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.

But perhaps photons do require at least a few atoms, say at least one
atom/m3 should be more than sufficient, although perhaps as few as one
atom/km3 is all that it takes since such an absolute void of merely 1
atom/km3 would allow that extremely cold (near 0 K) atom to get
extremely large.

Atoms as photon packet nodes sort of makes sense.
-
Brad Guth

On Jun 26, 9:24 am, American wrote:
On Jun 26, 10:45 am, Ian Parker wrote:





On 26 Jun, 12:51, "Androcles" wrote:

"Ian Parker" wrote in message

roups.com...
: Lets clear up a few misconceptions. If you have an ionised medium the
: phase velocity is c. The group velocity is not. The result assumes an
: infinite medium.

Let's clear up a few misconceptions.
1) Media of any kind plays no part in it.
2) You are full of ****.

El barco attravesto una cerradura. La estacion fué resorte.

I used to think it was only Google Translate that produced things like
that, where the contectural meaning of the word was not understood.

The MEDIUM is the substance though which light is passing. In this
case it is tenuous ionized gas. The system, as is every system, is
invariant under SU2. If the ionosphere were to suddenly move at half
the speed of light, the result would be exactly the same referred to
that frame. That is what invariance under SU2 means effectively.

The remarkable step which Dirac took was to say OK Schroedinger's
equation is not relativistically invariant. I am going to construct
one that is. Antimatter thus arises directly from SU2. Everything has
been verified. Of course Neil Armstrong may not have landed on the
Moon and all the people at CERN etc, be part of some gigantic
conspiracy.

- Ian Parker

As the understanding goes, the odd spin structure (P,P)
is the only structure with gauge bosonic activity between
multiverses. Likewise, the same tori structure represents
the electron: the rotational structure for the inertial
mass that includes gravitons acting on a toroidal energy
flux is a favorite representation in the "torus of time"
scenario. The torus is a genus 2 "mappable surface" that
uses "holomorphic functions" such as the SU(1) Kahler metric
(invariant). These systems describe a microcosm of the grav-
ity wave phenomenon presently being studied.

It would seem that the odd spin structure is the only struc-
ture to hypertranslate between multiverses, but how? How
can a self-same consciousness be restored unless a self-
similarity becomes generated thru Sierpinski fractalization?
The idea of prime factorization is used to establish the
set of common primes between any harmonic of 78557*(2**n)+1,
so that all the set of [3, 5, 7, 13, 19, 37, 73] can be fac-
tored into ANY WHOLE VALUE OF n thru the self-similarity of
individual components within the above parameter. Notice any-
thing unique about the above set? There are exactly 7 members
in the set, if formed by a composite, odd integer k value within
the group of k*(2**n)+1, for all positive integer n. These
are the Sierpinski numbers - all odd and multiples of the
basis set of seven. If initially setting k = 78557, there
are some very interesting number sequences that crop up as
Sierpinski fractalizations: The "k" sequence, 78557, is prac-
tically situated near the Schumann resonance, 78300, which
lands within 257 of the Sierpinski "k". How convenient is this?
The speed of light harmonic, 144, or 143,888.1 minutes of arc
per geodyne second, when divided by 60 (minutes per 15 de-
grees), equals 35972.025 degrees, or 627.830284 pi radians.
2C minutes amount to 26.64594 pi radians, or 4.2408366
whole spins. Therefore,

(4.2408366)((33.9440 x 10**-4 cps) = .1439509 cps,
which is the harmonic resonance decompression frequency
related to the life force radius in the LOCAL geodyne.
This frequency must be correlated with the earth harmonic
resonance frequency, which is 627.830284/(2*pi)=99.922cps,
so that (.1439509 cps)(99.922 cps) = 14.38390 cps, which,
incidentally, is very close to the 2X Schumann resonance fre-
quency, but being associated with the 2X harmonic of the MASS
DISSOLUTION frequency around 7.1 Hz. Could the decompression
sequence accomodate a U_65 uniform polyhedron "great
dodecahemicosahedron", a harmonically symmetrical, nonconvex
uniform polyhedron, isomorphic to the hemicosahedron, or
hendecatope, whose circumradius is phi**(-1) for each unit
edge in 11 dimensions, where "phi" is the golden ratio, with
the ability to transform the complete mass geodymically thru
dissolution into a 4-space resonance? The Wythoff symbol for
the great dodecahemicosahedron is 5/4,5|3, meaning that these
three rational numbers can be used to describe uniform polyhedra
PQR, based on how a point C in a spherical triangle PQR can be
selected so as to trace the vertices of regular polygonal faces.
C lies on the arc 5/4,5, and the bisector of the opposite
angle 3. The angles associated with this particular arc and
bisector are the same for both crystallographic representations
PQR and QPR. Both would seem to represent opposite rotations
or mirror representations of the same polyhedra. The spherical
triangle PQR (5/4,5|3) has spherical triangle C on the arc PQ
with the bisector on the opposite angle Q, with any one of the
angles (5/4)(i)/(5/4), (5/4)(i)/5_q, or (5/4)(i)/3_r defining
one particular set of aspects or polarization sequences of the
great dodecahemicosahedron.

We're looking at these designs, and "designs within designs"
in order to grasp some theoretical basis for developing a
coherent physical theory of "Propulsion Applied Electrogravitic
Crystallography".

Can I put a price tag on the work that I've put into this?

American- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm impressed, although our Zion naysay likes of Ian Parker is a lost
cause, because it's not of something scripted within their Old
Testament or even within the Muslim koran. Somehow their terrestrial
God(s) forgot to mention anything about physics and science, therefore
anything of any quantum string like consideration on behalf of
utilizing photons is simply beyond any perceived scope of their faith-
based limited mindset that's boxed and ductaped shut.
-
Brad Guth

On 26 Jun, 18:59, "Androcles" wrote:

You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.

There is an apparent paradox. The refactive index of an ionized medium
1. Hence light travels at a speed c PHASE. Group velocity clears
up the apparant paradox.

This is done in standard undergraduate courses. In a vacuum light (all
wavelengths) travels at c both in phase and group. BTW gravitational
waves , or gravitons, likewise travel at c.

Einstein was a Jew. I am sure that is his problem.
". Now where have I heard about Hogwarts
before? Is FTL possible in quiidich games? Do you actually doubt
relativity, or are you streading disinformation on purpose. I am
beginning to think you want a career at Langley and spreading
disinformation about relativity is your induction exercise.


- Ian Parker

On Jun 27, 3:04 am, Ian Parker wrote:
On 26 Jun, 18:59, "Androcles" wrote:

You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.

There is an apparent paradox. The refactive index of an ionized medium 1. Hence light travels at a speed c PHASE. Group velocity clears

up the apparant paradox.

This is done in standard undergraduate courses. In a vacuum light (all
wavelengths) travels at c both in phase and group. BTW gravitational
waves , or gravitons, likewise travel at c.

Einstein was a Jew. I am sure that is his problem.
". Now where have I heard about Hogwarts
before? Is FTL possible in quiidich games? Do you actually doubt
relativity, or are you streading disinformation on purpose. I am
beginning to think you want a career at Langley and spreading
disinformation about relativity is your induction exercise.

- Ian Parker

Still terrestrial box thinking, as per usual you and your Zion swarm
mindset have all the right answeres, but not to otherwise save
ourdselves, as you silly folks can't ever seem to apply anything
that'll benefit humanity or that of our badly failing environment
without collateral damage and the ongoing carnage of the innocent.

If it's off-world intelligence (such as surviving on Venus along with
raw elements and renewable energy to spare), we have to forget it. If
it's FTL R&D, we have to forget that as well as anything of quantum
binary communications.

Too bad the very same Zion swarm mindset of opposing all that's
possible wasn't getting applied when they were pulling out all the
stops on behalf of sucking up to Hitler.

Way to go, Ian Parker (let us kill all the Jews and anyone else that
comes along, just so that Ian Parker's Zion swarm can have it their
way).
-
Brad Guth

"Ian Parker" wrote in message
oups.com...
: On 26 Jun, 18:59, "Androcles" wrote:
:
: You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
: result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
: as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.
:
: There is an apparent paradox.


All paradoxes are either apparent or the consequence of contradictory
assertions. Remove the offending assertion and the paradox vanishes.

"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible,
whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? "
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, (Sherlock Holmes) The Sign of Four, 1890



: The refactive index of an ionized medium


There is no such animal. All refractive indices are relative.


: 1. Hence light travels at a speed c PHASE. Group velocity clears
: up the apparant paradox.
:
: This is done in standard undergraduate courses.

Substandard undergraduate courses are taught by substandard lecturers
and are no guarantee of truth or logical conclusion. When are you going
to realise, Parker, that all velocities are RELATIVE? Probably long after
you've learnt to spell difficult words such as 'refRactive' and 'apparEnt'.



: In a vacuum light (all
: wavelengths) travels at c

"But the ray moves relatively to the initial point of k, when measured in
the stationary system, with the velocity c-v" -- Albert Einstein.

Do you understand "measured", Parker?
Do you understand "c-v" is not c, Parker?
There's a paradox there, isn't there, Parker?

: both in phase and group. BTW gravitational
: waves , or gravitons, likewise travel at c.

Bull****.



: Einstein was a Jew. I am sure that is his problem.

I don't give a flying **** what his nationality or ethnic background was,
it isn't pertinent to physics ort astronomy.
Einstein was an astrologer, a lying, cheating, philandering, self-serving
egomaniac without any mathematical ability and a disgusting creep who
did nothing for humanity except con as many people as he could.


: ". Now where have I heard about Hogwarts
: before? Is FTL possible in quiidich games? Do you actually doubt
: relativity,

The principle of relativity is sacrosanct. It is the
"one-speed-of-light-only"
morons such as you that generate these so-called "paradoxes" because
you are too stupid to realize that when your tin god said
"we establish by definition that the time required by light to travel from A
to B equals the time it requires to travel from B to A" he was talking out
of his arsehole.

You missed that because you were not taught to read what the clever ****
said,
you were given a substandard undergraduate course by a substandard
lecturer.

: or are you streading disinformation on purpose.


You can't even punctuate a sentence with a '?', can you?
It is YOU that is "streading" disinformation on purpose, I actually
quote verbatim what your tin god and huckster actually said. You
are thicker than two short planks, Parker, dead from the neck up.

: I am
: beginning to think

LIAR! You don't even come close to beginning to think. If you
began to think you'd read your huckster's paper as he wrote it
and then ask questions about it instead of glorying in paradoxes
and "streading" disinformation.
Here it is, ****head:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/



: you want a career at Langley and spreading
: disinformation about relativity is your induction exercise.
:
:
I don't spread or stread disinformation, Parker. I quote the arsehole
verbatim.

Ian Parker wrote:
On 26 Jun, 18:59, "Androcles" wrote:

You are full of **** with your group and phase velocity crap, the
result requires no media at all and aether was kicked in the can
as garbage in 1895, it was never present or necessary.

There is an apparent paradox. The refactive index of an ionized medium
1. Hence light travels at a speed c PHASE. Group velocity clears
up the apparant paradox.

This is done in standard undergraduate courses. In a vacuum light (all
wavelengths) travels at c both in phase and group. BTW gravitational
waves , or gravitons, likewise travel at c.

Einstein was a Jew. I am sure that is his problem.
". Now where have I heard about Hogwarts
before? Is FTL possible in quiidich games? Do you actually doubt
relativity, or are you streading disinformation on purpose. I am
beginning to think you want a career at Langley and spreading
disinformation about relativity is your induction exercise.


- Ian Parker

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--

Regards
Nick