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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
Hi all,
Here's another shot of the inner coma structures taken on the night of the 30th October 2007. Note the interesting features close to the pseudo-nucleus. http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/comets/..._luminance.jpg -- Pete Lawrence http://www.digitalsky.org.uk |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
Top Notch as always!
great stuff Pete, no wonder so many people love your pictures All the best Andy -- StarDome - Astronomy - Astronautics - Planetarium Mr Andrew R Green B.Sc(Hons) FRAS. Fellow Royal Astronomical Society Director & Resident Astronomer StarDome, Director Anglo-Australian Astronomy Education Partnership Web Sites: www.stardomeplanetarium.co.uk www.stardome-planetarium.com "Pete Lawrence" wrote in message ... Hi all, Here's another shot of the inner coma structures taken on the night of the 30th October 2007. Note the interesting features close to the pseudo-nucleus. http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/comets/..._luminance.jpg -- Pete Lawrence http://www.digitalsky.org.uk |
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Being between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter and heading away, it's freaky
that Holmes is that volatile. The solar flux at that distance is such that you have to wonder about this unique comet. "Pete Lawrence" wrote in message ... Hi all, Here's another shot of the inner coma structures taken on the night of the 30th October 2007. Note the interesting features close to the pseudo-nucleus. http://www.digitalsky.org.uk/comets/..._luminance.jpg -- Pete Lawrence http://www.digitalsky.org.uk |
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On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:57:24 GMT, "ThomA" wrote:
Being between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter and heading away, it's freaky that Holmes is that volatile. The solar flux at that distance is such that you have to wonder about this unique comet. It is interesting, but actually a body at 2 AU from the Sun (the perihelion distance of this comet) can experience significant heating. Depending on its emissivity (which is unknown), temperatures can easily get much higher than the boiling point for many compounds known to exist in comets (some of which show up in spectra for this one). Assuming a dark crust- probably common in comets- and a porous makeup- probably common as well- it would take months for the heat to soak meters down into the nucleus and encounter older, more volatile material. At its current distance from the Sun of 2.5 AU, it is still perfectly capable of absorbing enough energy to vaporize many common compounds if they were suddenly exposed at the surface by a shift of material (comet quake) or a low energy collision with co-orbital material. Nobody knows for sure what precipitated this release of material but any of the above are reasonable possibilities. The precipitating event is apparently unusual, but the large release of volatiles isn't that odd. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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Chris L Peterson wrote:
[snip] temperatures can easily get much higher than the boiling point for many compounds known to exist in comets (some of which show up in spectra for this one). Chris, do you or anyone else have spectral data on Holmes? Such as what kind of spectrum does it have and what are the most prominent elements that show on its spectrum? Thanks, [snip] Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com -- I.N. Galidakis |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:40:58 +0200, "I.N. Galidakis"
wrote: do you or anyone else have spectral data on Holmes? Check out John Menke's report at http://menkescientific.com/Comet17P-Holmes.pdf Such as what kind of spectrum does it have and what are the most prominent elements that show on its spectrum? CN, C2, NH2. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
Yes. The flux decreases 4 X's at double the distance. So some 200 watts/m** would be rather warm. At its current distance from the Sun of 2.5 AU, it is still perfectly capable of absorbing enough energy to vaporize many common compounds if they were suddenly exposed at the surface by a shift of material (comet quake) or a low energy collision with co-orbital material. |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:40:58 +0200, "I.N. Galidakis" wrote: do you or anyone else have spectral data on Holmes? Check out John Menke's report at http://menkescientific.com/Comet17P-Holmes.pdf Many thanks! Such as what kind of spectrum does it have and what are the most prominent elements that show on its spectrum? CN, C2, NH2. [snip] What's C2? Thanks again, Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com -- I.N. Galidakis |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
"I.N. Galidakis" wrote: Chris L Peterson wrote: [snip] temperatures can easily get much higher than the boiling point for many compounds known to exist in comets (some of which show up in spectra for this one). Chris, do you or anyone else have spectral data on Holmes? Such as what kind of spectrum does it have and what are the most prominent elements that show on its spectrum? a number of good ones exist. Google /17P Holmes spectrum/ or /spectrum of...? Major emissions are C2 around the Mg triplet at 5129,65, and 85. C2+NH2 spikes in the CN A region at 5693, 5703, 5732. Na at 5976 and 5995. The object is proving a challenge for amateurs. There are some very nbice spectra on the web. To your last CII is carbon. .. .. Thanks, [snip] Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com -- I.N. Galidakis |
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Holmes coma detail - October 30th
"I.N. Galidakis" wrote in message
news:1193963847.410582@athprx03... Chris L Peterson wrote: On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:40:58 +0200, "I.N. Galidakis" wrote: do you or anyone else have spectral data on Holmes? Check out John Menke's report at http://menkescientific.com/Comet17P-Holmes.pdf Many thanks! Such as what kind of spectrum does it have and what are the most prominent elements that show on its spectrum? CN, C2, NH2. [snip] What's C2? Diatomic carbon molecule. I believe (without checking references) this one is responsible for Swan bands in the rare red giant carbon stars also. NOT ionized carbon atom as found in B stars. Thanks again, Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com -- I.N. Galidakis -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |
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