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"Doug Ellison" wrote in message ... Errrr - $200b? You obviously havnt a clue what Mars Direct actually is then? So, you're one of the few who thinks this can be done for $20billion then? Ha! It can certainly be done for a great deal less than $200b That's what they said about the Space Station. It has already souped up more than $100billion and it's still climbing. And worse, it isn't even operating at half capacity. It's just a trailerhome in space! Don't believe Zurbrin and his crap. Any Mars mission will cost AT LEAST $200billion, if not more. "And for what?" people will ask. There are too many unemployed and people trying to scrape together a living in the U.S. and they're all voters. No, sir. This isn't going to fly. Heck, people are already complaining about the $80billon or so spent in Iraq. Do you really think they're gonna allow a $200billion mission to Mars? Get real. |
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In article , Dr. O dr.o@xxxxx wrote:
It can certainly be done for a great deal less than $200b That's what they said about the Space Station. Yes, and it was true, too. Don't confuse "could be done for less than X" with "cannot possibly exceed X no matter how screwed up the program is". (It is difficult to imagine a program more screwed up than the station.) ...Any Mars mission will cost AT LEAST $200billion, if not more. If it's done as a "business as usual" effort by today's NASA, yes, it probably would. Better management, not better mission profile, is the key to doing it much more cheaply. -- MOST launched 1015 EDT 30 June, separated 1046, | Henry Spencer first ground-station pass 1651, all nominal! | |
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"O" for Ordover? "Dr. O" wrote: "Doug Ellison" wrote in message ... Errrr - $200b? You obviously havnt a clue what Mars Direct actually is then? So, you're one of the few who thinks this can be done for $20billion then? Ha! NASA couldn't, but if I had $20 billion, up front, I could get to Mars in about 15 years. It can certainly be done for a great deal less than $200b That's what they said about the Space Station. It has already souped up more than $100billion and it's still climbing. The cost, thus far, is less than a third of that. And worse, it isn't even operating at half capacity. It's only half built. It's just a trailerhome in space! Don't believe Zurbrin and his crap. Any Mars mission will cost AT LEAST $200 billion, if not more. Are you an engineer? "And for what?" people will ask. There are too many unemployed and people trying to scrape together a living in the U.S. and they're all voters. No, sir. This isn't going to fly. Heck, people are already complaining about the $80billon or so spent in Iraq. Do you really think they're gonna allow a $200billion mission to Mars? Not a chance. |
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Henry Spencer wrote: In article , Dr. O dr.o@xxxxx wrote: It can certainly be done for a great deal less than $200b That's what they said about the Space Station. Yes, and it was true, too. Don't confuse "could be done for less than X" with "cannot possibly exceed X no matter how screwed up the program is". (It is difficult to imagine a program more screwed up than the station.) ...Any Mars mission will cost AT LEAST $200billion, if not more. If it's done as a "business as usual" effort by today's NASA, yes, it probably would. Better management, not better mission profile, is the key to doing it much more cheaply. Better management is a necessary, though not sufficient, condition. A bad design could still drive costs through the roof, and there are a lot of bad designs out there. There is still a lot of room for improvements in mission design which could reduce costs substantially. It is probably true that better management would be more likely to pick a good design, but it doesn't necessarily follow. -- MOST launched 1015 EDT 30 June, separated 1046, | Henry Spencer first ground-station pass 1651, all nominal! | |
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...Any Mars mission will cost AT LEAST $200billion, if not more.
You left out the word nasa after "Any." Zubrin says 30 billion would do a Mars Direct, who are you to differ so widely? An anti-human spaceflight robotocist? ^ //^\\ ~~~ near space elevator ~~~~ ~~~members.aol.com/beanstalkr/~~~ |
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