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Ancient Greek Solar System Diagrams
Hi, I'm looking for any ancient diagrams in Greek which are similar to the following diagram. http://www.elroysemporium.com/jpg/cosmology1.jpg I'm interested to look at ones that use the Greek names for the planets instead of the Latin or Roman names. Are there some that show IOVIS/JOVE as Zeus, and Mercury as Hermes, and Venus as Aphrodite, etc? I Googled around for a good half hour and couldn't find any. Does anybody have some links to share? -- Elroy Willis www.elroysemporium.com |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
I'm looking for any ancient diagrams in Greek which are similar to the following diagram. http://www.elroysemporium.com/jpg/cosmology1.jpg I'm interested to look at ones that use the Greek names for the planets instead of the Latin or Roman names. Are there some that show IOVIS/JOVE as Zeus, and Mercury as Hermes, and Venus as Aphrodite, etc? I doubt you'll find any ancient ones. Very few originals, or even direct copies, of classical or Hellenistic Greek scientific works (or proto-scientific, if you prefer) exist; almost all have come down to us through Arabic translations. You might find some such diagrams in Greek manuscripts from the early-mediaeval or Byzantine periods, but many of those will have derived from Arabic versions as well. I'm told that the modern Greek names for the planets are indeed those of the classical gods corresponding to the Latin names used in English and most other European languages, if that's what you're hoping to ascertain. -- Odysseus |
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Odysseus wrote in alt.astronomy
Elroy Willis wrote: I'm looking for any ancient diagrams in Greek which are similar to the following diagram. http://www.elroysemporium.com/jpg/cosmology1.jpg I'm interested to look at ones that use the Greek names for the planets instead of the Latin or Roman names. Are there some that show IOVIS/JOVE as Zeus, and Mercury as Hermes, and Venus as Aphrodite, etc? I doubt you'll find any ancient ones. Very few originals, or even direct copies, of classical or Hellenistic Greek scientific works (or proto-scientific, if you prefer) exist; almost all have come down to us through Arabic translations. You might find some such diagrams in Greek manuscripts from the early-mediaeval or Byzantine periods, but many of those will have derived from Arabic versions as well. I thought there might be some ancient original stone tablets or some type of untranslated artifacts that have been found, but I've never seen any. I'm told that the modern Greek names for the planets are indeed those of the classical gods corresponding to the Latin names used in English and most other European languages, if that's what you're hoping to ascertain. I was looking to go back further than that, to find diagrams or artifacts where Jupiter is called Zeus, Saturn is called Chronos, etc. -- Elroy Willis www.elroysemporium.com |
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nightbat wrote
Elroy Willis wrote: Odysseus wrote in alt.astronomy Elroy Willis wrote: I'm looking for any ancient diagrams in Greek which are similar to the following diagram. http://www.elroysemporium.com/jpg/cosmology1.jpg I'm interested to look at ones that use the Greek names for the planets instead of the Latin or Roman names. Are there some that show IOVIS/JOVE as Zeus, and Mercury as Hermes, and Venus as Aphrodite, etc? I doubt you'll find any ancient ones. Very few originals, or even direct copies, of classical or Hellenistic Greek scientific works (or proto-scientific, if you prefer) exist; almost all have come down to us through Arabic translations. You might find some such diagrams in Greek manuscripts from the early-mediaeval or Byzantine periods, but many of those will have derived from Arabic versions as well. I thought there might be some ancient original stone tablets or some type of untranslated artifacts that have been found, but I've never seen any. I'm told that the modern Greek names for the planets are indeed those of the classical gods corresponding to the Latin names used in English and most other European languages, if that's what you're hoping to ascertain. I was looking to go back further than that, to find diagrams or artifacts where Jupiter is called Zeus, Saturn is called Chronos, etc. -- Elroy Willis www.elroysemporium.com nightbat So Elroy you're the one that potentially ran off with some of the 1947 area 51 saucer remnants that Princess Darla told us about. Ha, ha, ha, just kidding and yes, those valuable stone tablets long Star Race shown and passed down to the ancients. The reported Darla long ago shot down and captured Star Race crew may have been US recovered but entire broken up, scattered, always carried on board, solar system stone tablets never fully found. Hmmmmm, no wonder you're trying to get newsgroup and google info on them, there secretly isn't any, because remember they were suppose to be high atmospheric weather balloons? We now know better because Princess Darla has clue filled us in. If you do however ever find any pics or possible diagram remains post link us to them and maybe we can help decipher them including with the help of our Princess Darla when she returns. carry on, the nightbat |
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nightbat wrote in alt.astronomy
So Elroy you're the one that potentially ran off with some of the 1947 area 51 saucer remnants that Princess Darla told us about. Ha, ha, ha, just kidding and yes, those valuable stone tablets long Star Race shown and passed down to the ancients. The reported Darla long ago shot down and captured Star Race crew may have been US recovered but entire broken up, scattered, always carried on board, solar system stone tablets never fully found. Hmmmmm, no wonder you're trying to get newsgroup and google info on them, there secretly isn't any, because remember they were suppose to be high atmospheric weather balloons? We now know better because Princess Darla has clue filled us in. If you do however ever find any pics or possible diagram remains post link us to them and maybe we can help decipher them including with the help of our Princess Darla when she returns. What are you smoking over there? Dare I want some of it? BTW, I did find some pictures of coins this morning that depict Zeus in Greek, and he's called "Dios" and the D is a triangle delta character and the S is a sort of lightning bolt looking character, not a Sigma character, but it's still recognizable. I also discovered that the Spanish word "adios" means "To Dios" or "To Zeus" as such, as well as meaning "goodbye" which I found interesting... Vaya con Dios means "Go with Zeus" as well... And Dios was a shining father in the sky we now call Jupiter, or Jove. By Jove, they all tie back to a shiny planet! -- Elroy Willis www.elroysemporium.com |
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