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http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2
"The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev |
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On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. In fact, string theory is completely and manifestly covariant -- completely consistent with SR. Of course, there are those who foam at the mouth when Mr. A *extends* the work of Mr. B, taking that to be a sign that "Surely Mr. B must have been wrong! Mr. A says so!" Anybody who has it out for Mr. B will tend to foam that way at every opportunity. PD PD |
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On 15 Nov, 19:48, PD wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm "Einstein's Legacy -- Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." Do you know why Smolin thinks EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT? John Norton explains: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...UP_TimesNR.pdf "What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." As for John Stachel, he IMPLICITLY admits special relativity is "not quite right" by claiming that it is compatible with Newton's emission theory of light: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances." A sycophant of John Stachel's called Jean Eisenstaedt is even explicit about this: http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...40/pgs/4_5.pdf Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." Pentcho Valev |
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On 15 Nov, 19:48, PD wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm "Einstein's Legacy -- Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." Do you know why Smolin thinks EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT? John Norton explains: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers...UP_TimesNR.pdf "What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." As for John Stachel, he IMPLICITLY admits special relativity is "not quite right" by claiming that it is compatible with Newton's emission theory of light: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances." A sycophant of John Stachel's called Jean Eisenstaedt is even explicit about this: http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...40/pgs/4_5.pdf Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." Pentcho Valev |
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On Nov 16, 12:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 15 Nov, 19:48, PD wrote: On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm"Einstein's Legacy -- Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." Do you know why Smolin thinks EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT? John Norton explains: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf"What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." As for John Stachel, he IMPLICITLY admits special relativity is "not quite right" by claiming that it is compatible with Newton's emission theory of light: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances." A sycophant of John Stachel's called Jean Eisenstaedt is even explicit about this: http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...ail/lna40/pgs/... Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." Pentcho Valev Boy, these arguments are sure getting complex. |
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"Don Stockbauer" wrote in message ... : On Nov 16, 12:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: : On 15 Nov, 19:48, PD wrote: : : : : On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: : : http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 : "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan : Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who : developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations : of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the : theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for : wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that : is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories : that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special : relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their : credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, : "Einstein was not quite right." : : I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other : Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of : what Alan Kostelecky says. : : Pentcho Valev : : I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names : mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. : : http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm"Einstein's Legacy -- : Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the : only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how : dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special : relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of : electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed : of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source : or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that : energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E = : mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL : RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET : EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF : PUBLISHING IT." : : Do you know why Smolin thinks EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS : WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT? John Norton explains: : : http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf"What Can : We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of : Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no : comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy : of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of : spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity : at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity : everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general : relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. : Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his : preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS : AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE : SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." : : As for John Stachel, he IMPLICITLY admits special relativity is "not : quite right" by claiming that it is compatible with Newton's emission : theory of light: : : http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html : John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with : an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of : light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also : requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an : absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that : radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain : circumstances." : : A sycophant of John Stachel's called Jean Eisenstaedt is even explicit : about this: : : http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...ail/lna40/pgs/... : Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la : vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi : que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il : n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de : Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa : trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de : raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. : Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie : newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, : opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les : resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." : : Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why : the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and : the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, : there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's : Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is : concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any : reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why : don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is : what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the : end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." : : Pentcho Valev : : Boy, these arguments are sure getting complex. Having trouble following them, girl? |
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On Nov 16, 12:40 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 15 Nov, 19:48, PD wrote: On Nov 15, 1:15 am, Pentcho Valev wrote: http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi...ll/2007/1113/2 "The experiment provides a particularly useful new datum, says Alan Kostelecky, a physicist at Indiana University, Bloomington, who developed the theory that aims to incorporate all possible violations of special relativity. Known as the Standard-Model Extension, the theory contains 19 parameters, or "coefficients," that allow for wiggle room. "They have placed an improved bound on a coefficient that is particularly difficult to measure," Kostelecky says. Any theories that move beyond special relativity would have to agree with special relativity to within this very tight margin. So, to improve their credibility, the crackpots should start their manuscripts with, "Einstein was not quite right." I think Lee Smolin, John Stachel, string theorists and all other Beyond-Einsteinians or The-Other-Einsteinians should take notice of what Alan Kostelecky says. Pentcho Valev I don't know why you would suggest that to them. None of the names mentioned would say that SR is not quite right. http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm"Einstein's Legacy -- Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." Do you know why Smolin thinks EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT? John Norton explains: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf"What Can We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." As for John Stachel, he IMPLICITLY admits special relativity is "not quite right" by claiming that it is compatible with Newton's emission theory of light: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i6272.html John Stachel: "Not only is the theory [of relativity] compatible with an emission theory of radiation, since it implies that the velocity of light is always the same relative to its source; the theory also requires that radiation transfer mass between an emitter and an absorber, reinforcing Einstein's light quantum hypothesis that radiation manifests a particulate structure under certain circumstances." A sycophant of John Stachel's called Jean Eisenstaedt is even explicit about this: http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...ail/lna40/pgs/... Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." Pentcho Valev You illustrate my point exactly, Pachinko. You do not understand the difference between extending a theory and recognizing that a theory is just wrong. All of the authors you cite pointed out where Einstein himself recognized the need to extend the *special* theory of relativity to the *general* theory of relativity. This is no different than recognzing the need to extend the *special* classical force of gravity F=mg (for cases near the Earth's surface) to the *general* classical force of gravity F=GMm/r^2. Now, Newton himself recognized that F=mg worked *fine* for the special case, which is why it is labeled the special case, but he also needed something more *general* which is what produced F=GMm/r^2. Does this make F=mg wrong for the special cases? No. Does the special case apply in all circumstances? No. In exactly the same way, SR works *fine* in the special cases, which is why it is called *special* relativity. For cases where gravitational forces are strong, however, the more *general* rule must be applied. This does not say that SR is *wrong*, only that it applies in *special* cases, which is precisely how it is used. PD |
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