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Sorry about that one. I meant Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66g, that
which I believe becomes worth a nearly resting photon mass of 6.4555e-83 gram. Though I also believe there's a perfectly good conjecture as based upon similar laws of physics offered by team KECK. - Brad Guth tomcat wrote: Brad Guth wrote: Team KECK and a few others have also established the mass that's associated with photons. That number represents an extremely small amount of mass that's even less if those photons are nearly resting, such as photons associated with a black hole which might actually represent a form of dark matter or dark energy as safely surrounding the likes of antimatter, as being what I believe represents the other 90% of mass in the universe. There is no shortage of photons. - Brad Guth I would love to see a reference on that 'Team KECK' photon mass statement. Went looking for something on it, but couldn't find anything. I did find this, however: "A nonzero photon mass would have major implications, such as longitudinal electromagnetic waves in vacuum and the frequency-dependent velocity of light. For Lakes' experiment, a cosmic vector potential predicted by some theories should be detected. It was not. Source: Phys. Rev. Lett., 2 March" Apparently, photon mass is of some importance. tomcat |
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mass is light.
Brad Guth wrote: Sorry about that one. I meant Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66g, that which I believe becomes worth a nearly resting photon mass of 6.4555e-83 gram. Though I also believe there's a perfectly good conjecture as based upon similar laws of physics offered by team KECK. - Brad Guth tomcat wrote: Brad Guth wrote: Team KECK and a few others have also established the mass that's associated with photons. That number represents an extremely small amount of mass that's even less if those photons are nearly resting, such as photons associated with a black hole which might actually represent a form of dark matter or dark energy as safely surrounding the likes of antimatter, as being what I believe represents the other 90% of mass in the universe. There is no shortage of photons. - Brad Guth I would love to see a reference on that 'Team KECK' photon mass statement. Went looking for something on it, but couldn't find anything. I did find this, however: "A nonzero photon mass would have major implications, such as longitudinal electromagnetic waves in vacuum and the frequency-dependent velocity of light. For Lakes' experiment, a cosmic vector potential predicted by some theories should be detected. It was not. Source: Phys. Rev. Lett., 2 March" Apparently, photon mass is of some importance. tomcat What is "observable" does not necessarily require there to be an "atomic mass", but what is "atomic mass" does not nec- essarily require there to be an "observable" event. It is a conventionally accepted practice nowadays to call electrons "holes", because they are, as it were, miniature "black holes" that *mostly mirror* an outwardly directed radiation, by virtue of the fact that the "quantum mirrorlines" have not yet been filtered into the "non-Abelian", Minkowski, "mappable" worldline mindset. There is little, if no, mention given of "inwardly directed" radiation because the "observable part" has always been the only method used to validate "one half" of the GUT (Grand Unified Theory). In order for the other half of the theory to come into play, one would have to be able to look "inside" the black hole of an electron and "observe" (virtually) the conditions surrounding the connection between two "multi- verses". (Since there cannot possibly exist alone, a mutually self- destructing race of sentient beings, who wish to only come into contact with their opposites, I will assume that through blood resonance, the screening of allowable "fringefield gaussian white noise" has provided the necessary "light cone projections" between "ergospaces" in order for this teleportation to occur): There is always a question raised about "What would happen if a person was able to travel back in time and kill his grand- father? Wouldn't he be violating causality? Many awkward observations of this problem include nonsensical explanations that since A affects B, and B affects C, then A also affects C in a "timeline" or sequence of events. But time, as it ex- ists in the fifth to twenty-sixth dimension (Bosonic string theory) does not continue as a line from the past to the present, but in the fifth dimension as an elementary particle field of "foam bubble" universes that may or may not be con- nected with each other via four of the eight different types of strings: Bosonic w/tachyons, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and open loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (non-chiral), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (chiral), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), and Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left). The Bosonic theory with tachyons presently is the only theory to have 26 dimensions, the others have exactly 10 dimensions each. The latest form of the string theory, the matrix theory, has eleven dimensions - the eleventh being supergravity. This recent theory lacks precise equations of motion. However, it is similar to the string theory in all but the way it utilizes compactification. Eleven dimensions are compactified into four. Imagine a foam of universes that vibrate internally in either praise or dispraise, depending on whether vibrations are ab- sorbed and become mass, or radiate and eventually add to a har- monic, tending towards resonance. An open string may connect to a 'mirror' universe that vibrates in harmony with our own, this being our sister universe, from Bosonic string theory. That mirror universe would have similarities to our own, almost exactly, except for stress energy created by inter-universal massless charge, or crosstalk. Contrary to moral law, one may kill his grandfather, but doesn't fully realize that he has committed a heinious act by creating a negative stress energy in the spatio-temporal vacuum that would prevent him from ex- isting within the future channel mirror universe to begin with. Now, he will not vibrate in the future channel mirror universe, because he has killed his grandfather. Instead, the universe he has come from originally will impose, however small, a nega- tive stress energy within the future channel mirror universe he now resides in. But how many universes are there or how far must one run to still percieve this universe as One? According to Bosonic string theory, we have only one sister universe, which is beyond the sixth dimension, or the contraturn of mat- ter, and occupies the seventh thru twelfth dimensions. It is a mirror image of our own, and can be altered, but exacts conse- quences in doing so, by creating positive or negative stress energy (via superscalar time wave imposed on genetic predispos- itioning) within the past or future channel mirror universe, either by: 1) Mirroring to our own universe (through a stres- sed supersymmetry matrix), or 2) Our own past or future mir- roring to our sister universe, but out of harmony, and in all likelihood, unresonant and unsympathetic. If universal consciousness is approaching a technological singularity, then I would seriously question "for who's singularity?", and posit that there exist *many more* singu- larities than this "oppressive" one, with any earthly "evidence" of spectral emissives at the event horizon being "stripped off" their shells from the atoms of translating current, forever re- turning to the Dirac sea that created them. The human part of this "universal awareness" is but a fleeting whim in the Creator's mind, leading all the false prophets, dreamers, parapsychologists, and soothsayers to imagine "What has become of our leader?", when, in fact, in their ironclad borg-like imaginations, they have forgotten their own feet of clay, amidst their "wealth" of iron. |
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mass is light.
Brad Guth wrote: Sorry about that one. I meant Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66g, that which I believe becomes worth a nearly resting photon mass of 6.4555e-83 gram. Though I also believe there's a perfectly good conjecture as based upon similar laws of physics offered by team KECK. - Brad Guth tomcat wrote: Brad Guth wrote: Team KECK and a few others have also established the mass that's associated with photons. That number represents an extremely small amount of mass that's even less if those photons are nearly resting, such as photons associated with a black hole which might actually represent a form of dark matter or dark energy as safely surrounding the likes of antimatter, as being what I believe represents the other 90% of mass in the universe. There is no shortage of photons. - Brad Guth I would love to see a reference on that 'Team KECK' photon mass statement. Went looking for something on it, but couldn't find anything. I did find this, however: "A nonzero photon mass would have major implications, such as longitudinal electromagnetic waves in vacuum and the frequency-dependent velocity of light. For Lakes' experiment, a cosmic vector potential predicted by some theories should be detected. It was not. Source: Phys. Rev. Lett., 2 March" Apparently, photon mass is of some importance. tomcat What is "observable" does not necessarily require there to be an "atomic mass", but what is "atomic mass" does not nec- essarily require there to be an "observable" event. It is a conventionally accepted practice nowadays to call electrons "holes", because they are, as it were, miniature "black holes" that *mostly mirror* an outwardly directed radiation, by virtue of the fact that the "quantum mirrorlines" have not yet been filtered into the "non-Abelian", Minkowski, "mappable" worldline mindset. There is little, if no, mention given of "inwardly directed" radiation because the "observable part" has always been the only method used to validate "one half" of the GUT (Grand Unified Theory). In order for the other half of the theory to come into play, one would have to be able to look "inside" the black hole of an electron and "observe" (virtually) the conditions surrounding the connection between two "multi- verses". *** THE FOLLOWING IS A PRETEXT FOR ASSUMING WHAT FOLLOWS *** (Since there cannot possibly exist alone, a mutually self- destructing race of sentient beings, who wish to only come into contact with their opposites, I will assume that through blood resonance, the screening of allowable "fringefield gaussian white noise" has provided the necessary "light cone projections" between "ergospaces" in order for this teleportation to occur): *** END OF PRETEXT *** There is always a question raised about "What would happen if a person was able to travel back in time and kill his grand- father? Wouldn't he be violating causality? Many awkward observations of this problem include nonsensical explanations that since A affects B, and B affects C, then A also affects C in a "timeline" or sequence of events. But time, as it ex- ists in the fifth to twenty-sixth dimension (Bosonic string theory) does not continue as a line from the past to the present, but in the fifth dimension as an elementary particle field of "foam bubble" universes that may or may not be con- nected with each other via four of the eight different types of strings: Bosonic w/tachyons, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and open loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (non-chiral), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (chiral), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), and Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left). The Bosonic theory with tachyons presently is the only theory to have 26 dimensions, the others have exactly 10 dimensions each. The latest form of the string theory, the matrix theory, has eleven dimensions - the eleventh being supergravity. This recent theory lacks precise equations of motion. However, it is similar to the string theory in all but the way it utilizes compactification. Eleven dimensions are compactified into four. Imagine a foam of universes that vibrate internally in either praise or dispraise, depending on whether vibrations are ab- sorbed and become mass, or radiate and eventually add to a har- monic, tending towards resonance. An open string may connect to a 'mirror' universe that vibrates in harmony with our own, this being our sister universe, from Bosonic string theory. That mirror universe would have similarities to our own, almost exactly, except for stress energy created by inter-universal massless charge, or crosstalk. Contrary to moral law, one may kill his grandfather, but doesn't fully realize that he has committed a heinious act by creating a negative stress energy in the spatio-temporal vacuum that would prevent him from ex- isting within the future channel mirror universe to begin with. Now, he will not vibrate in the future channel mirror universe, because he has killed his grandfather. Instead, the universe he has come from originally will impose, however small, a nega- tive stress energy within the future channel mirror universe he now resides in. But how many universes are there or how far must one run to still percieve this universe as One? According to Bosonic string theory, we have only one sister universe, which is beyond the sixth dimension, or the contraturn of mat- ter, and occupies the seventh thru twelfth dimensions. It is a mirror image of our own, and can be altered, but exacts conse- quences in doing so, by creating positive or negative stress energy (via superscalar time wave imposed on genetic predispos- itioning) within the past or future channel mirror universe, either by: 1) Mirroring to our own universe (through a stres- sed supersymmetry matrix), or 2) Our own past or future mir- roring to our sister universe, but out of harmony, and in all likelihood, unresonant and unsympathetic. If universal consciousness is approaching a technological singularity, then I would seriously question "for who's singularity?", and posit that there exist *many more* singu- larities than this "oppressive" one, with any earthly "evidence" of spectral emissives at the event horizon being "stripped off" their shells from the atoms of translating current, forever re- turning to the Dirac sea that created them. The human part of this "universal awareness" is but a fleeting whim in the Creator's mind, leading all the false prophets, dreamers, parapsychologists, and soothsayers to imagine "What has become of our leader?", when, in fact, in their ironclad borg-like imaginations, they have forgotten their own feet of clay, amidst their "wealth" of iron. |
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Electrons are Either "Outward Reflectors" or "Inward Channels"
Brad Guth wrote: Sorry about that one. I meant Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66g, that which I believe becomes worth a nearly resting photon mass of 6.4555e-83 gram. Though I also believe there's a perfectly good conjecture as based upon similar laws of physics offered by team KECK. - Brad Guth tomcat wrote: Brad Guth wrote: Team KECK and a few others have also established the mass that's associated with photons. That number represents an extremely small amount of mass that's even less if those photons are nearly resting, such as photons associated with a black hole which might actually represent a form of dark matter or dark energy as safely surrounding the likes of antimatter, as being what I believe represents the other 90% of mass in the universe. There is no shortage of photons. - Brad Guth I would love to see a reference on that 'Team KECK' photon mass statement. Went looking for something on it, but couldn't find anything. I did find this, however: "A nonzero photon mass would have major implications, such as longitudinal electromagnetic waves in vacuum and the frequency-dependent velocity of light. For Lakes' experiment, a cosmic vector potential predicted by some theories should be detected. It was not. Source: Phys. Rev. Lett., 2 March" Apparently, photon mass is of some importance. tomcat What is "observable" does not necessarily require there to be an "atomic mass", but what is "atomic mass" does not nec- essarily require there to be an "observable" event. It is a conventionally accepted practice nowadays to call electrons "holes", because they are, as it were, miniature "black holes" that *mostly mirror* an outwardly directed radiation, by virtue of the fact that the "quantum mirrorlines" have not yet been filtered into the "non-Abelian", Minkowski, "mappable" worldline mindset. There is little, if no, mention given of "inwardly directed" radiation because the "observable part" has always been the only method used to validate "one half" of the GUT (Grand Unified Theory). In order for the other half of the theory to come into play, one would have to be able to look "inside" the black hole of an electron and "observe" (virtually) the conditions surrounding the connection between two "multi- verses". *** THE FOLLOWING IS A PRETEXT FOR ASSUMING WHAT FOLLOWS *** (Since there cannot possibly exist alone, a mutually self- destructing race of sentient beings, who wish to only come into contact with their opposites, I will assume that through blood resonance, the screening of allowable "fringefield gaussian white noise" has provided the necessary "light cone projections" between "ergospaces" in order for this teleportation to occur): *** END OF PRETEXT *** There is always a question raised about "What would happen if a person was able to travel back in time and kill his grand- father? Wouldn't he be violating causality? Many awkward observations of this problem include nonsensical explanations that since A affects B, and B affects C, then A also affects C in a "timeline" or sequence of events. But time, as it ex- ists in the fifth to twenty-sixth dimension (Bosonic string theory) does not continue as a line from the past to the present, but in the fifth dimension as an elementary particle field of "foam bubble" universes that may or may not be con- nected with each other via four of the eight different types of strings: Bosonic w/tachyons, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and open loop strings, Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (non-chiral), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons and closed loop strings (chiral), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), Bosonic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left), Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-right), and Bosonic/Fermionic w/out tachyons (heterotic-left). The Bosonic theory with tachyons presently is the only theory to have 26 dimensions, the others have exactly 10 dimensions each. The latest form of the string theory, the matrix theory, has eleven dimensions - the eleventh being supergravity. This recent theory lacks precise equations of motion. However, it is similar to the string theory in all but the way it utilizes compactification. Eleven dimensions are compactified into four. Imagine a foam of universes that vibrate internally in either praise or dispraise, depending on whether vibrations are ab- sorbed and become mass, or radiate and eventually add to a har- monic, tending towards resonance. An open string may connect to a 'mirror' universe that vibrates in harmony with our own, this being our sister universe, from Bosonic string theory. That mirror universe would have similarities to our own, almost exactly, except for stress energy created by inter-universal massless charge, or crosstalk. Contrary to moral law, one may kill his grandfather, but doesn't fully realize that he has committed a heinious act by creating a negative stress energy in the spatio-temporal vacuum that would prevent him from ex- isting within the future channel mirror universe to begin with. Now, he will not vibrate in the future channel mirror universe, because he has killed his grandfather. Instead, the universe he has come from originally will impose, however small, a nega- tive stress energy within the future channel mirror universe he now resides in. But how many universes are there or how far must one run to still percieve this universe as One? According to Bosonic string theory, we have only one sister universe, which is beyond the sixth dimension, or the contraturn of mat- ter, and occupies the seventh thru twelfth dimensions. It is a mirror image of our own, and can be altered, but exacts conse- quences in doing so, by creating positive or negative stress energy (via superscalar time wave imposed on genetic predispos- itioning) within the past or future channel mirror universe, either by: 1) Mirroring to our own universe (through a stres- sed supersymmetry matrix), or 2) Our own past or future mir- roring to our sister universe, but out of harmony, and in all likelihood, unresonant and unsympathetic. If universal consciousness is approaching a technological singularity, then I would seriously question "for who's singularity?", and posit that there exist *many more* singu- larities than this "oppressive" one, with any earthly "evidence" of spectral emissives at the event horizon being "stripped off" their shells from the atoms of translating current, forever re- turning to the Dirac sea that created them. The human part of this "universal awareness" is but a fleeting whim in the Creator's mind, leading all the false prophets, dreamers, parapsychologists, and soothsayers to imagine "What has become of our leader?", when, in fact, in their ironclad borg-like imaginations, they have forgotten their own feet of clay, amidst their "wealth" of iron. |
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Electrons are Either "Outward Reflectors" or "Inward Channels"
On a sunny day (14 Jun 2006 10:42:34 -0700) it happened
"Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B" wrote in . com: Imagine a foam of universes that vibrate internally in either praise or dispraise, depending on whether vibrations are ab- sorbed and become mass, or radiate and eventually add to a har- monic, tending towards resonance. Imagine All The People Living Life In Peace John lennon Somebody shot him. |
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Electrons are Either "Outward Reflectors" or "Inward Channels"
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:13:51 GMT, in a place far, far away, Jan
Panteltje made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: On a sunny day (14 Jun 2006 10:42:34 -0700) it happened "Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B" wrote in .com: Imagine a foam of universes that vibrate internally in either praise or dispraise, depending on whether vibrations are ab- sorbed and become mass, or radiate and eventually add to a har- monic, tending towards resonance. Imagine All The People Living Life In Peace John lennon Somebody shot him. Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic songs ever written by anyone, ever. |
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Electrons are Either "Outward Reflectors" or "Inward Channels"
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:05:41 GMT, in a place far, far away, Jan
Panteltje made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Imagine All The People Living Life In Peace John lennon Somebody shot him. Not that he deserved to be shot, but that was one of the most moronic songs ever written by anyone, ever. Some time ago I re-aquired it, and listened to the text in a non sixties Vietnam war mood..... it gets tricky (I like the peace *feeling*) when he starts on the commie bit 'share all things' or something, that never worked. That's the whole point. It was about "feelings," not rationality or reality. Many millions have died on the alter of feelings. |
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Electrons are Either "Outward Reflectors" or "Inward Channels"
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:23:40 GMT, in a place far, far away,
h (Rand Simberg) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: Some time ago I re-aquired it, and listened to the text in a non sixties Vietnam war mood..... it gets tricky (I like the peace *feeling*) when he starts on the commie bit 'share all things' or something, that never worked. That's the whole point. It was about "feelings," not rationality or reality. Many millions have died on the alter of feelings. Sorry, that should have been "altar of feelings." |
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mass is light.
Brad Guth wrote: Sorry about that one. I meant Hubble photon mass of 5.81e-66g, that which I believe becomes worth a nearly resting photon mass of 6.4555e-83 gram. Though I also believe there's a perfectly good conjecture as based upon similar laws of physics offered by team KECK. - Brad Guth Try to ignore those that deride our serious posts. The fact that Goddard Research Center is trying hard to determine a photon's mass, and the Hubble Telescope people as well, pretty much shows that determining whether or not a photon has mass is quite important. The quote below is from the Hubble Site: "A nonzero photon mass would have major implications, such as longitudinal electromagnetic waves in vacuum and the frequency-dependent velocity of light. For Lakes' experiment, a cosmic vector potential predicted by some theories should be detected. It was not. Source: Phys. Rev. Lett., 2 March" If your calculation are correct, and the weight is roughly times 10 to the -83, then Goddard's inability to accuratly weigh photons below times 10 to the -48 may explain why they were unable to detect Mass. I am still trying to figure out where this 'massless photon' concept came from. Einstein clearly states that Pure Energy would mean the 'speed of light squared', not the 'speed of light' as those that are in the Box are saying. Apparently, however, photons are very small mass objects. Quite a challenge. tomcat |
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