Carbon Dioxide Emissions Three Times Higher Than Expected

"Souls Black as Coal" wrote in message
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On Jun 3, 9:52 pm, Whata Fool wrote:

Track ALL TIME HIGH AND LOW temperature records,
and if the all time high records outnumber the all time low
records, I
will get more worried.
What do your tracking numbers read? YOU are tracking, aren't you?
I don't think you should worry at all about temperatures. The
softball-
sized hail now falling in Louisiana will punch right through your roof
and leave gaping holes, but that's not what's going to git y'all. It's
the 100 miles per hour Dericheo that's gonna bow your roof off.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...e97a268f01094c
Cometh 10th MAJOR HURRICANE in 154 Days of 2007 -- GONU intensified
from Cat 2 to Cat 4 in 6




Explain why -- despite all expectations -- the 2006 hurricane year was
so unexpectedly light, and at the historical average for the past 150
years.


Regards

Bonzo

"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of
Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences

On Jun 3, 5:55 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0700609104v1


This acceleration of CO2 emissions
would explain the acceleration of CO2
accumulations quite well. The 'Keeling
Curve' of measured CO2 concentrations
has an increasing exponential term.

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg
The above is a graph and curve fit of these data:
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/co2_mm_mlo.dat

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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On Jun 3, 5:55 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0700609104v1
This acceleration of CO2 emissions
would explain the acceleration of CO2
accumulations quite well. The 'Keeling
Curve' of measured CO2 concentrations
has an increasing exponential term.


And no effect on global temperatures which have plateaued since 1998.
*Poof* goes the theory!

Regards

Bonzo

"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of
Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:37:49 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

"Whata Fool" wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:46:51 -0700, number6 wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:55 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0700609104v1

That is not what the report says ...

The report suggests that it will be impossible for all the developing
nations to cooperate in any emission reduction program, the partial
sentence, "Together, the developing and least-developed economies
(forming 80% of the world's population) accounted for 73% of global
emissions growth in 2004", tells the story, and years since may be even
worse.
Technology is helping North America not add significantly to the
increases, and will help much more in the future, while the developing
countries can't help but increase emissions even more (IF they can
afford the high prices of fossil fuels).

But emissions are not the issue in climate change issues concerning
global warming, and the cause of warming is still a non-issue because
the average global temperature is not the true indicator of "warming",
because the data history covers too short a time period, the ups and
downs are still not clearly identified and the error range has not been
established.

where do you make up this ****? lol
nasa, supreme court,

And the decision of the court was what, 5 to 4, along
political leanings?

harvard professor Schwartz. thousands of companies are
producing greener technology..

Of course, the economies of the energy costs demands it,
not all company executives are stupid, the rising price of energy may
cause a collapse of the world economy and you are worrying about a
degree difference in temperature relative to a normal temperature range
of 20 or 30 degrees difference from one day to the next?

It would help if governments helped out but
they are up to their noses with oil and coal revenues which fund their
campaign so they talk and don't do much...

Government is not able to do anything except in centrist
governments, and the biggest one is apparently not doing anything but
flood the world markets with cheap junk made by slave labor using more
and more energy every year.

No one sane in high posiition
doesn't believe in global warming. ,

So I am a fool and a little bit crazy? :-)

Head of oil and heads of coal even
admit to it. and the dangers.

Sure, what better reason to be able to say they are helping
reduce consumption by charging higher prices.

Track ALL TIME HIGH AND LOW temperature records,
and if the all time high records outnumber the all time low records, I
will get more worried.

On Jun 3, 10:40 pm, "Jonathan" wrote:

retarded sockpuppet

fortunately the global warming deniers will be like the people who said the
world was not round. complete buffons.. the last of a gneration of fools..
personally I dont' know about global warming specifically except to say our
area has gotten at least three times more days with averages above the
nomral then opposite. Our oceans and areas are getting record temperatures
and lots of pollution which taken together spells record asthma in the
places that get the most pollution so its not too hard to deduct that global
warming is contributing to pollution. (NO the pollution is not allways
lessening the global warming effects .. another denial legacy that will be
proved worthless, If we put up more pollution the global warming will just
result in layers of the stuff, maybe cooling the earth temporarily but
choking the planet eventually . and my guess rewarming the planet
again.eventually even worse



"Bonzo" wrote in message
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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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On Jun 3, 5:55 pm, kT wrote:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0700609104v1
This acceleration of CO2 emissions
would explain the acceleration of CO2
accumulations quite well. The 'Keeling
Curve' of measured CO2 concentrations
has an increasing exponential term.


And no effect on global temperatures which have plateaued since 1998.
*Poof* goes the theory!

Regards

Bonzo

"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences

[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of
Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences

Bonzo wrote:

And no effect on global temperatures which have plateaued since 1998.

There are occasional significantly perturbed points in the global
temperature data, for example in 1998 when there was a strong El Nino.

Cherrypicking these points to attempt to disprove trends merely
destroys what small amount of credibility you may have had left.

You do at least display a small amount of intelligence, if not
integrity, by posting your reprehensible slime under a pseudonym.

Paul

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:32:22 GMT, "mcs" wrote:

fortunately the global warming deniers will be like the people who said the
world was not round. complete buffons.. the last of a gneration of fools..

Right, and your spelling shows super intelligence?

personally I dont' know about global warming specifically except to say our
area has gotten at least three times more days with averages above the
nomral then opposite.

What is average on June first?

Our oceans and areas are getting record temperatures

Where, what is the record, what was the previous record and
when was it?

and lots of pollution which taken together spells record asthma in the
places that get the most pollution so its not too hard to deduct that global
warming is contributing to pollution.

Global warming does not cause pollution.

Global warming cannot possibly cause pollution.

(NO the pollution is not allways
lessening the global warming effects .. another denial legacy that will be
proved worthless, If we put up more pollution the global warming will just
result in layers of the stuff, maybe cooling the earth temporarily but
choking the planet eventually . and my guess rewarming the planet
again.eventually even worse

It is nice to have people with a good imagination add to the
technical discussion.

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 08:39:40 -0500, "Paul F. Dietz"
wrote:

Bonzo wrote:

And no effect on global temperatures which have plateaued since 1998.

You do at least display a small amount of intelligence, if not
integrity, by posting your reprehensible slime under a pseudonym.
Paul

And you used to be a scientist.

Whata Fool wrote:

And you used to be a scientist.

Ah, another brave, brave pseudonymic poster. Your parents
must be so proud how you turned out. And not a spec of
technical content in your post, either!

Paul