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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
-------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. If the skew is really bad - i.e. its a straight line, then probably the origin of the universe is from two massive black holes colliding at immense speeds many orders of magnitude faster than c. For a short period, the resulting debris field would behave identical to inflation. But soon after that, space and time will have been born and everything restricted to traveling at c. Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
Dear 7:
On Aug 25, 2:24*am, 7 email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_...@enemygadgets .com wrote: Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? http://www.sdss.org/dr3/products/val...socat_dr3.html 46000+ objects, most in z =1 to z = 2.2... so not "back at the beginning". -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. No evidence of that. David A. Smith |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
7 email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets .com wrote in
: Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. If the skew is really bad - i.e. its a straight line, then probably the origin of the universe is from two massive black holes colliding at immense speeds many orders of magnitude faster than c. For a short period, the resulting debris field would behave identical to inflation. But soon after that, space and time will have been born and everything restricted to traveling at c. Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. You don't know what black holes and quasars are, do you? |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
On 8/25/2011 4:24 AM, 7 wrote:
Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. If the skew is really bad - i.e. its a straight line, then probably the origin of the universe is from two massive black holes colliding at immense speeds many orders of magnitude faster than c. Interesting claim. Can you show (that is, calculate) that such a collision will produce the skew you claim? For a short period, the resulting debris field would behave identical to inflation. Interesting claim. Can you show (that is, calculate) that the resulting debris field will be identical to inflation? But soon after that, space and time will have been born and everything restricted to traveling at c. Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. The problem with amateurs and hacks of this ilk is that they read Discover Magazine and Popular Science and other dreck stuff. In there are articles that say things similar to the above, without any of the supporting information. The reader is not expected to understand where those claims come from or the evidence for them, they're only delivered the conclusions. The problem is that this is easy to emulate, simply by replacing supportable conclusions with wholly fabricated and unsupportable statements, to PRETEND to be writing about science. This is nothing more than Playing Dress-Up games. It makes some people feel better, but it's really very easy to see through. |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
dlzc wrote:
Dear 7: On Aug 25, 2:24 am, 7 email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_...@enemygadgets .com wrote: Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? http://www.sdss.org/dr3/products/val...socat_dr3.html 46000+ objects, most in z =1 to z = 2.2... so not "back at the beginning". -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. No evidence of that. Is the quasar distribution of z=1, z=2 etc evenly spread out across the sky for each band of z? It is very interesting to know. |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
On 25/08/2011 5:24 AM, 7 wrote:
Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. Most surveys say it's evenly distributed. No evidence of other universes tugging at ours, yet. If the skew is really bad - i.e. its a straight line, then probably the origin of the universe is from two massive black holes colliding at immense speeds many orders of magnitude faster than c. For a short period, the resulting debris field would behave identical to inflation. But soon after that, space and time will have been born and everything restricted to traveling at c. Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. No evidence of any of this. Yousuf Khan |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
On 25/08/2011 5:24 AM, 7 wrote:
Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. We know what quasars are, they are blackholes as you say, but they are just the normal blackholes at the centers of galaxies that are actively swallowing gas from their galaxies, also known as Active Galactic Nuclei (AGNs). The gas that escapes the accretion disk then gets propelled out through polar jets. These blackholes are no different than the blackhole at the center of our own galaxy, and our own galaxy might at one time been an AGN too, and may once again be one in the future, if enough gas falls towards it. Yousuf Khan |
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Dear Yousuf Khan:
On Aug 25, 11:31*am, Yousuf Khan wrote: On 25/08/2011 5:24 AM, 7 wrote: Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the . sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. We know what quasars are, they are blackholes as you say, but they are just the normal blackholes at the centers of galaxies that are actively swallowing gas from their galaxies, also known as Active Galactic Nuclei (AGNs). The gas that escapes the accretion disk then gets propelled out through polar jets. Like the Milky Way has right now. http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/gam-bub.htm .... *someone* out there would sees us as a quasar. These blackholes are no different than the blackhole at the center of our own galaxy, and our own galaxy might at one time been an AGN too, and may once again be one in the future, if enough gas falls towards it. Now the question is, is a quasar *in general* a bipolar light source, like our own Milky Way? David A. Smith |
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On 25/08/2011 3:38 PM, dlzc wrote:
Dear Yousuf Khan: On Aug 25, 11:31 am, Yousuf wrote: We know what quasars are, they are blackholes as you say, but they are just the normal blackholes at the centers of galaxies that are actively swallowing gas from their galaxies, also known as Active Galactic Nuclei (AGNs). The gas that escapes the accretion disk then gets propelled out through polar jets. Like the Milky Way has right now. http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/gam-bub.htm ... *someone* out there would sees us as a quasar. I saw this as a sign that we were an AGN in the past, but are not one right now. But then again with intergalactic distances, somebody looking back at us from another galaxy, might just see us at the exact right moment when we were erupting. Yousuf Khan |
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Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed?
On Aug 25, 10:22*am, eric gisse wrote:
7 email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_...@enemygadgets .com wrote : Q: Is quasar distribution even across the sky or is it skewed? -------------------------------------------------------------- If quasar distribution is even then universe was homogeneous at birth, but if it is uneven, then other universes are nearby and tugging at our universe. If the skew is really bad - i.e. its a straight line, then probably the origin of the universe is from two massive black holes colliding at immense speeds many orders of magnitude faster than c. For a short period, the resulting debris field would behave identical to inflation. But soon after that, space and time will have been born and everything restricted to traveling at c. Quasars are probably the black hole bits from the original bang that escaped first without having been vaporized. Their geometric distribution across the sky is key to understanding the original structure from whence they came from. You don't know what black holes and quasars are, do you?- Hide quoted text - Enlighten us, Eric. What are they and how are they different? john |
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