is the GPS myth unmythbustable?

hm, 38 microseconds, either way!

"Poutnik" son of Pouter who is a Shouter wrote:
Relativistic time anomaly [in GPS] is
45 us/day speeding up by weaker gravitation field,
7 us/day slowing down by satellite speed,

||||| ---- m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400 = 38 microsec/day ----
||||| ---- m_e/h * 2G/c *86400 = 11.2... km drift /day ----
where m_e = mass of earth and h being the Space vehicle
height above the earth surface, which is corrected by standard
http://tinyurl.com/622an2 or http://tinyurl.com/57asbg
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm

On Aug 21, 12:22*pm, "Androcles" .
20th.2011 wrote:
"Peter Webb" wrote in message

u...
|I am not sure of your position.
|
| Which of the following are true statements in your opinion:
|
| 1. The GPS system explicitly corrects for relativistic effects.

False.

|
| 2. The extent of the corrections made for Relativity is sufficient to make
a
| difference to the accuracy of the GPS.

False, as a simple calculation will show.
At exactly noon let London be at position zero.

Well,you will always get both the right and wrong answer
that way with GPS. Since GPS wasn't invented because
people in London it, but because missiles it.
For the rather simple reason, missiles aren't all
that concerned about human conventions, such as noon time.







It will remain at position zero for the next 24 hours,
at which time we must calculate how far London has
moved from zero according to the assumed GPS error
of 38 usec, which it is assumed needs to be corrected.
London will move 15 degrees from the Sun every hour
so in 24 hours we have 15 * 24 = 360 degrees.
The distance London moves in a hour is 2.pi.R/24 where
R is cos (latitude) * Earth radius.
London is 52 degrees N, the radius of the Earth is 6 378.1 kilometres
The rest is arithmetic.
How far does London move from zero in 38 usec?
Hint: my cell phone says I'm on the other side of the street sometimes.

"Poutnik" son of Pouter who is a Shouter wrote:
Relativistic time anomaly [in GPS] is
45 us/day speeding up by weaker gravitation field,
7 us/day slowing down by satellite speed,
i.e in summary 38 us/day.
... another theory predicting the values above
does not exist.

hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... Poutnik since you are a springchicken
that is conditioned and cooked right now (in school)
to become an Einstein Dingleberry which worships
Albert's sphincter... .... you may do well and read
posts from years before you became brainwashed:
and see that any high school student or engineer,
can glean, for this particular situation,
in 1 fell swoop, in ONE SINGLE STEP, in good,
old Newtonian ways, and show that

||||| ---- m_e/h * 2G/c^2 *86400 = 38 microsec/day ----
||||| ---- m_e/h * 2G/c *86400 = 11.2... km drift /day ----
|||||
where m_e = mass of earth and h being the Space vehicle
height above the earth surface, which is corrected by standard
industrial ways by classical methods devoid of any SR/GR.
http://tinyurl.com/622an2 or http://tinyurl.com/57asbg
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm

|||||||| ---- GPS NEVER NEEDED neither SR nor GR ---- |||||||||
||||| not for its design, manufacturing, testing nor operations. |||||
||||| ------------ GPS was in operation LONG before ----------- |||||
||||| Einstein Dingleberries came along to nuzzle into the |||||
||||| show, hoping to get some credit away from Newton. |||||
||||| Albert's SR/GR is the Kosher Tax levied onto academia |||||

It is beyond reason & rhyme why Einstein Dingleberries, like
yourself, Poutnik, do come back over and over again and try
to nuzzle in, in their fetish & obsession to sell & proselitize
their REL-igion... like here, where you Poutnik are upfront
and center, spreading your bull****, lies & hysteria in
http://tinyurl.com/Proof-of-Relativity,

Thanks for the laughs, though, Pouter... ahahaha... ahahanson

Brian Quincy Hutchings "1treePetrifiedForestLane"
wrote
hm, 38 microseconds, either way!

hanson added:
Obviously so, Brian... ... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
But Pouter insist that ONLY SR/GR gives 38usec.

The main point being that the 38usec is a USELESS
hyped-up issue by Einstein Dingleberries who do
desperately seek justification for Einstein's REL crap.
Andro, Koobee Wublee and a few other enlightened
folks have seen reality and posted about this REL con.

Are you, Brian, trying to take the limelight off Einstein
Dingleberry Pouter and take center stage now in the
ED's http://tinyurl.com/Proof-of-Relativity, ahahaha....
Instead Brian, check into your LaRouchian 21C Journal.
An article in their belabors the same issue like that,
giving yet another additional reason besides A, K & h's.

"jim" wrote in message
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On Aug 21, 12:22 pm, "Androcles" .
20th.2011 wrote:
"Peter Webb" wrote in message

u...
|I am not sure of your position.
|
| Which of the following are true statements in your opinion:
|
| 1. The GPS system explicitly corrects for relativistic effects.

False.

|
| 2. The extent of the corrections made for Relativity is sufficient to
make
a
| difference to the accuracy of the GPS.

False, as a simple calculation will show.
At exactly noon let London be at position zero.

Well,you will always get both the right and wrong answer
that way with GPS. Since GPS wasn't invented because
people in London it, but because missiles it.
For the rather simple reason, missiles aren't all
that concerned about human conventions, such as noon time.
==============================================
Obviously you didn't understand my answer as you didn't get past
the reference definition, but what part of Webb's question "Which
of the following are true statements..." did you not understand?



It will remain at position zero for the next 24 hours,
at which time we must calculate how far London has
moved from zero according to the assumed GPS error
of 38 usec, which it is assumed needs to be corrected.
London will move 15 degrees from the Sun every hour
so in 24 hours we have 15 * 24 = 360 degrees.
The distance London moves in a hour is 2.pi.R/24 where
R is cos (latitude) * Earth radius.
London is 52 degrees N, the radius of the Earth is 6 378.1 kilometres
The rest is arithmetic.
How far does London move from zero in 38 usec?
Hint: my cell phone says I'm on the other side of the street sometimes.

On Aug 21, 11:19*pm, "Androcles" .
20th.2011 wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

...
On Aug 21, 12:22 pm, "Androcles" .









20th.2011 wrote:
"Peter Webb" wrote in message

. au...
|I am not sure of your position.
|
| Which of the following are true statements in your opinion:
|
| 1. The GPS system explicitly corrects for relativistic effects.

False.

|
| 2. The extent of the corrections made for Relativity is sufficient to
make
a
| difference to the accuracy of the GPS.

False, as a simple calculation will show.
At exactly noon let London be at position zero.

* Well,you will always get both the right and wrong answer
* that way with GPS. Since GPS wasn't invented because
* people in London it, but because missiles it.
* For the rather simple reason, missiles aren't all
* that concerned about human conventions, such as noon time.
==============================================
Obviously you didn't understand my answer as you didn't get past
the reference definition, but what part of Webb's question "Which
of the following are true statements..." did you not understand?







It will remain at position zero for the next 24 hours,
at which time we must calculate how far London has
moved from zero according to the assumed GPS error
of 38 usec, which it is assumed needs to be corrected.
London will move 15 degrees from the Sun every hour
so in 24 hours we have 15 * 24 = 360 degrees.
The distance London moves in a hour is 2.pi.R/24 where
R is cos (latitude) * Earth radius.
London is 52 degrees N, the radius of the Earth is 6 378.1 kilometres
The rest is arithmetic.
How far does London move from zero in 38 usec?
Hint: my cell phone says I'm on the other side of the street sometimes.

I didn't understand any of the secondary garbage either. Since
computers, which
is what guide missiles do not understand hours, minutes, seconds,
or even micros.

On Aug 21, 5:00 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:

I was replying to Koobee.

He seems to think that every experimental prediction of Relativity is
correct,

No, this statement about Him is grossly wrong. shrug

but the theory itself is wrong.

Yes, the hypothesis has too many self-inconsistencies. It must be
wrong. shrug

Yes, I know that makes no sense,
but nor do his posts.

That is because Peter Webb is a ****ing moron. shrug

"jim" wrote in message
...
On Aug 21, 11:19 pm, "Androcles" .
20th.2011 wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

...
On Aug 21, 12:22 pm, "Androcles" .









20th.2011 wrote:
"Peter Webb" wrote in message

. au...
|I am not sure of your position.
|
| Which of the following are true statements in your opinion:
|
| 1. The GPS system explicitly corrects for relativistic effects.

False.

|
| 2. The extent of the corrections made for Relativity is sufficient to
make
a
| difference to the accuracy of the GPS.

False, as a simple calculation will show.
At exactly noon let London be at position zero.

Well,you will always get both the right and wrong answer
that way with GPS. Since GPS wasn't invented because
people in London it, but because missiles it.
For the rather simple reason, missiles aren't all
that concerned about human conventions, such as noon time.
==============================================
Obviously you didn't understand my answer as you didn't get past
the reference definition, but what part of Webb's question "Which
of the following are true statements..." did you not understand?







It will remain at position zero for the next 24 hours,
at which time we must calculate how far London has
moved from zero according to the assumed GPS error
of 38 usec, which it is assumed needs to be corrected.
London will move 15 degrees from the Sun every hour
so in 24 hours we have 15 * 24 = 360 degrees.
The distance London moves in a hour is 2.pi.R/24 where
R is cos (latitude) * Earth radius.
London is 52 degrees N, the radius of the Earth is 6 378.1 kilometres
The rest is arithmetic.
How far does London move from zero in 38 usec?
Hint: my cell phone says I'm on the other side of the street sometimes.

I didn't understand any of the secondary garbage either.

=========================
Ok, well, "let" means allow.
"At exactly noon let London be at position zero."
It's a definition. A starting point. Something to agree with. The whole
****ing world accepts 0 longitude and Greenwich Mean Time as
definitions except stupid argumentative *******s like you. As you
are clearly unaware of this and have no education whatsoever I can
only suggest you go to school, learn to tell the time and learn some
elementary geography. No way in hell are you going to understand GPS.
Have a nice day.
*plonk*

On Aug 22, 1:45*am, "Androcles" .
20th.2011 wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

...
On Aug 21, 11:19 pm, "Androcles" .









20th.2011 wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

...
On Aug 21, 12:22 pm, "Androcles" .

20th.2011 wrote:
"Peter Webb" wrote in message

. au...
|I am not sure of your position.
|
| Which of the following are true statements in your opinion:
|
| 1. The GPS system explicitly corrects for relativistic effects.

False.

|
| 2. The extent of the corrections made for Relativity is sufficient to
make
a
| difference to the accuracy of the GPS.

False, as a simple calculation will show.
At exactly noon let London be at position zero.

Well,you will always get both the right and wrong answer
that way with GPS. Since GPS wasn't invented because
people in London it, but because missiles it.
For the rather simple reason, missiles aren't all
that concerned about human conventions, such as noon time.
==============================================
Obviously you didn't understand my answer as you didn't get past
the reference definition, but what part of Webb's question "Which
of the following are true statements..." did you not understand?

It will remain at position zero for the next 24 hours,
at which time we must calculate how far London has
moved from zero according to the assumed GPS error
of 38 usec, which it is assumed needs to be corrected.
London will move 15 degrees from the Sun every hour
so in 24 hours we have 15 * 24 = 360 degrees.
The distance London moves in a hour is 2.pi.R/24 where
R is cos (latitude) * Earth radius.
London is 52 degrees N, the radius of the Earth is 6 378.1 kilometres
The rest is arithmetic.
How far does London move from zero in 38 usec?
Hint: my cell phone says I'm on the other side of the street sometimes.

* *I didn't understand any of the secondary garbage either.

=========================
Ok, well, "let" means allow.
*"At exactly noon let London be at position zero."
It's a definition. A starting point. Something to agree with. The whole
****ing world accepts 0 longitude and Greenwich Mean Time as
definitions except stupid argumentative *******s like you. As you
are clearly unaware of this and have no education whatsoever I can
only suggest you go to school, learn to tell the time and learn some
elementary geography. No way in hell are you going to understand GPS.
Have a nice day.

There is ZERO to understand about it Since to begin
with it's only jerks in science that believe a line of longitude
has a fixed definition in space. Which is why the people with
brains built artificial satellites, rather than just another
map anyway,




*plonk*