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Global Warming Climate Models Have Made a Successful Prediction
Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:32:50 -0000 (UTC), Mike Collins wrote: Quadibloc wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 7:32:40 AM UTC-6, Mike Collins wrote: wrote: The Founding Fathers solved the problem in a few months. Not for the slaves. Or the native Americans. Your point? And, no, I'm not being facetious. Producing a workable system of government so that a group of people can enjoy a stable representative system of government that genuinely represents them is *one* problem. Changing the attitudes of one group of people so that it no longer supports inequality for other groups of people is a *different* problem. Thus, while Negro slavery certainly is a blot on the escutcheon of the United States of America, it does not detract from what the American founding fathers did achieve - among which was a system that provided the resiliency and mechanisms by which progress to eliminate just such injustices could be achieved. John Savard They were achieved earlier in many other countries. To some extent. The U.S. didn't invent much that was new. It had the good fortune to be the first country created from scratch after the Enlightenment. It was founded on philosophical principles that were developed in Europe. Those same principles rather quickly changed the nature of European governments and societies, as well, but given conservatism and social inertia, it was still at least decades after the U.S. adopted them. Slavery. |
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Global Warming Climate Models Have Made a Successful Prediction
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 20:20:25 -0000 (UTC), Mike Collins
wrote: They were achieved earlier in many other countries. To some extent. The U.S. didn't invent much that was new. It had the good fortune to be the first country created from scratch after the Enlightenment. It was founded on philosophical principles that were developed in Europe. Those same principles rather quickly changed the nature of European governments and societies, as well, but given conservatism and social inertia, it was still at least decades after the U.S. adopted them. Slavery. Ah. I don't consider slavery to be implicitly wrong. But in the more developed parts of the world, ethics changed to view it as wrong, and yes, that happened later in the U.S. than elsewhere. |
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Global Warming Climate Models Have Made a Successful Prediction
On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 5:27:26 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
Ah. I don't consider slavery to be implicitly wrong. That explains much of your pathology. |
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