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The rigid airship (fat waverider/shuttle) to/from hell:
"sal" wrote in message
news On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:06:14 +0000, Brad Guth wrote: There is no "bad weather" on Venus Give it a rest, and stop cross-posting. I had set the followups to the groups where that message you replied to was actually sort of on-topic. There's nothing but bad weather on Venus. ? Such as one or perhaps 2 m/s ? or are you talking about the geothermal driven thermal dynamics of those vertical differential flows that could be fairly impressive. Silly boy/gal. Besides your own shadow, what the heck are you silly anti-everything and/or naysay/denial upon most everything that's under the one and only Jewish sun, as representing such mainstream status quo minions that are obviously so deathly afraid of the truth and nothing but the truth. Perhaps the other intelligent life that's existing or as ETs coexisting on Venus are Muslim or somewhat Cathar related with a capital "C" and a serious need to kick a few of our less than holy Catholic Pope like butts before they get around to all the other butts that badly need their fair share of kicking. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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The rigid airship (fat waverider/shuttle) to/from hell:
Brad Guth wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message Brad, your fantasy airship will NEVER approach the beauty and elegance of Josh Geller's. Powered by Volkswagen engines pumping helium through garden hoses, crewed by semi-naked women and heated by the burning of bales of marijuana, Geller's airship is the finest that talk.bizarre has to offer. In other words, you know of nothing about waverider spaceplanes or rigid airship technology, nor much less that of any related physics. Of course not. That's because this is talk.bizarre that you are crossposting to. Gee whiz, why the heck didn't you just say that you are totally airship dumbfounded, and simply admit that you otherwise don't believe in the regular laws of physics. Wouldn't that have been so much easier? Talk.bizarre isn't ABOUT the laws of physics. It's about railroad track solvent, and sex with reptiles, and about Cuban vacuum cleaners. Brad, if you want to talk about airships and physics you are not in the right newsgroups. Airships and physics are just too mainstream status quo for talk.bizarre. Now, if you're willing to have sex with reptiles and post long descriptions about it, or eat a huge piece of jimsonweed and drive a riding mower through a shopping mail, THEN that would be relevant for talk.bizarre. But Brad, your postings are just too boring and routine for our newsgroup. Please stop crossposting here. Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded", "talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"? No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner. hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded", "talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"? No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner. hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads. --scott Very good to know that about your "talk.bizarre" that supposedly has no topics related to reality nor much less related to any truth(s). "Forrest Whittaker: Is he the worst actor of all time, or one of the greatest?" "Six years on, how is the Fascism?" "Unacceptable" "Love thy vanquished and abused atheist neighbor: Pray that GOD heal his heart and other damaged internal organs." "Slumming, through the Death Threats, with You (was: America vs. the Commie Mommy State.)" "Trapped in the rail yard elevator" "A True Patriot Warrior" And so forth. It's good to know that you too are just another a pagan born-again liar and a certified bigot to boot. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Brad Guth wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message Is "talk.bizarre" the same Usenet group as as "talk.dumbfounded", "talk.dumb.dumber" or perhaps "talk.bigot"? No, but it IS connected to alt.roger-carasso and alt.meredith-tanner. hairy-douchebag. Not to mention alt.i.have.too.many.heads. Very good to know that about your "talk.bizarre" that supposedly has no topics related to reality nor much less related to any truth(s). The truth is seldom bizarre, Brad. It's usually pretty boring. Here in talk.bizarre we'd much rather talk about how Jeff Vogel ran his baby through the washing machine, or how steroids make you gay, rather than anything truthful. Brad, talk.bizarre is like the Weekly World News of Usenet. The stuff you post isn't HALF weird enough here. --scott And remember, Kids, Fail to Suck Day is just around the corner. -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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sal wrote:
As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling. This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached a height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost). I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based on their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively well done and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
The truth is seldom bizarre, Brad. It's usually pretty boring. Here in talk.bizarre we'd much rather talk about how Jeff Vogel ran his baby through the washing machine, or how steroids make you gay, rather than anything truthful. Obviously your "Jeff Vogel ran his baby through the washing machine" is exactly the sorts of hocus-pocus crapolla of what sick and perverted wizards like yourself would much rather be talking about, while others are kindly contributing their weirdness by way of sharing and thereby discussing interesting and somewhat outside the box sorts of weird stuff that could actually matter, such as there being other intelligent life on Venus (exoskeletal Cathars or whatever Venusian Muslims), and/or we have the little extra matter of fact that our extremely robust and nearby mascon of a physically dark and nasty moon that has been global warming us to death ever since the arrival of that big old icy proto-moon, and obviously we're stuck with having it's salty remainder that's still orbiting us and thereby having been causing a great deal of global tidal friction, plus having caused all sorts of tidal related currents (inside and out) of motivating various thermal energy transferrance, that which simply wouldn't have been so gosh darn horrific if our environment were merely having to go by those solar induced tides. Brad, talk.bizarre is like the Weekly World News of Usenet. The stuff you post isn't HALF weird enough here. --scott And remember, Kids, Fail to Suck Day is just around the corner. Obviously your lower than gutter scum sucking mindset via your extremely brown nose of buttology suck-up status quo is exactly where it belongs (squarely between those butt-cheeks of your next innocent victim), along with all of your other anti-Muslim and pro-Jewish friends that would like nothing better than to get whomever's the next Christ almighty trouble maker placed right back on another stick, and for having the likes of your born-again Roman puppet GW Bush arround for accomplishing that dastardly task was obviously perfectly fine and dandy by way of your previously proof-tested Third Reich collaborating minion status quo. (sorry if that analogy wasn't quite bizarre enough) In your perverted pro-petafile and pro-polluted world of continuing to rape mother Earth for all she's worth, and for otherwise having perpetrated and thus promoting whatever best sucks and blows to your rusemaster black heart's content, whereas clearly all that matters is achieving one more lie after another until each and every one of those NASA/Apollo rad-hard cows and/or invisible/stealth unfiltered Kodak moments comes home for good. (sorry once again if that wasn't sufficiently bizarre) As your having previously stipulated "the truth is seldom bizarre" and "the stuff you post isn't HALF weird enough". I'm terribly sorry about all that, as I'll simply have to try harder next time. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Jim Logajan wrote: I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based on their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively well done and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions: If you don't have a copy yet, get "The Zeppelin In Combat" by Douglas H. Robinson. This is a _superb_ book with several hundred great vintage photos*, and was originally published several decades ago with the input and full cooperation of the German W W I Zeppelin veterans. This is _the_ book on German Zeppelin operations in the First World War: http://www.amazon.com/Zeppelin-Comba.../dp/088740510X And it has very high quality paper in it, and a superb and tough binding on it as well. Meanwhile, Luftschiff fans, der Kaiser orders you to get your 3D glasses out and get a look at just how big these airships were, via vintage stereo-opticon views of them; particularly check out the view looking into the interior of the horizontal tail fin...as that one will knock your eyes out: http://www.3d-historisch.de/Zeppelin...3D-Galerie.htm * What's wonderful about those photos is that thanks to the camera technology of the era, the best photos were taken using a huge film emulsion plate rather than film on a roll, and the fidelity of the photos is superb due to that fact. The book has two-whole-page sized reproductions of some of them, and the level of detail visible is amazing. They used top-grade semi-gloss paper for the book, and thank God they did, because it really lets the the photos be seen in their original full glory. Pat |
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:18:09 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote: If you don't have a copy yet, get "The Zeppelin In Combat" by Douglas H. Robinson. ....And then there was the unmade Hammer film "Zepplin v. Pteredactyls", which had a pair of Zeps attempting to rescue an expedition to a "Kong-class" island, only to find it guarded by pteredactyls. Hammer went bankrupt while this was in pre-production, but IIRC the plan was to use stop-motion directed by a couple of former Harryhousen animators. This one might have been campy enough to have become a cult favorite! OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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The rigid airship (fat waverider/shuttle) to/from hell:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:28:29 +0000, Jim Logajan wrote:
sal wrote: As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling. This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached a height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost). Well well -- I should have checked my facts rather than relying on my all to fallible memory... I've got a fair number of books about airships on my bookshelf and based on their reading, I can say that the Wikipedia article is relatively well done and worth reading to clear up some misconceptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship -- Nospam becomes physicsinsights to fix the email |
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The rigid airship (fat waverider/shuttle) to/from hell:
sal wrote:
:On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:28:29 +0000, Jim Logajan wrote: : : sal wrote: : As I recall, zeppelins -- to which this seems closely related -- were : limited to something like a 4000 foot ceiling. : : This is incorrect. As far back as October 1914, the Zeppelin L-55 reached : a height of 24,000 feet (after it engaged in an 11-ship airship bombing : attack against England during WWI; the airships encountered 45 to 50 mph : winds and 5 of the 11 ships were lost). : :Well well -- I should have checked my facts rather than relying on my all :to fallible memory... There seems to be some disagreement on the facts. The raid he's referring to was actually in 1917, not 1914. The actual altitude (an all time record for airships that stood until August of this year, when it was surpassed by a Russian airship) was 24,606 feet. L-55 was one of the five airships lost in the raid he mentioned. The other four were shot down over France while returning from the raid. L-55 crashed in central Germany due to damage sustained because of the excessive altitude, which she maintained over France to avoid the fighters. -- "Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die." -- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer |
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