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Old September 25th 03, 06:13 PM
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http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/03/q3/0925-keller.htm

Princeton University
Office of Communications
22 Chambers St.
Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Telephone 609-258-3601; Fax 609-258-1301

For immediate release: September 25, 2003
Contact: Steven Schultz, (609) 258-5729,

Princeton paleontologist produces evidence for new theory on
dinosaur extinction

PRINCETON, N.J. -- As a paleontologist, Gerta Keller has studied
many aspects of the history of life on Earth. But the question
capturing her attention lately is one so basic it has passed the
lips of generations of 6-year-olds: What killed the dinosaurs?

The answers she has been uncovering for the last decade have
stirred an adult-sized debate that puts Keller at odds with many
scientists who study the question. Keller, a professor in
Princeton's Department of Geosciences, is among a minority of
scientists who believe that the story of the dinosaurs' demise is
much more complicated than the familiar and dominant theory that a
single asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago and caused the mass
extinction known as the Cretacious-Tertiary, or K/T, boundary.

Keller and a growing number of colleagues around the world are
turning up evidence that, rather than a single event, an intensive
period of volcanic eruptions as well as a series of asteroid
impacts are likely to have stressed the world ecosystem to the
breaking point. Although an asteroid or comet probably struck Earth
at the time of the dinosaur extinction, it most likely was, as
Keller says, "the straw that broke the camel's back" and not the
sole cause.

Perhaps more controversially, Keller and colleagues contend that
the "straw" -- that final impact -- is probably not what most
scientists believe it is. For more than a decade, the prevailing
theory has centered on a massive impact crater in Mexico. In 1990,
scientists proposed that the Chicxulub crater, as it became known,
was the remnant of the fateful dinosaur-killing event and that
theory has since become dogma.

Keller has accumulated evidence, including results released this
year, suggesting that the Chicxulub crater probably did not
coincide with the K/T boundary. Instead, the impact that caused the
Chicxulub crater was likely smaller than originally believed and
probably occurred 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The
final dinosaur-killer probably struck Earth somewhere else and
remains undiscovered, said Keller.

These views have not made Keller a popular figure at meteorite
impact meetings. "For a long time she's been in a very
uncomfortable minority," said Vincent Courtillot, a geological
physicist at Université Paris 7. The view that there was anything
more than a single impact at work in the mass extinction of 65
million years ago "has been battered meeting after meeting by a
majority of very renowned scientists," said Courtillot.

The implications of Keller's ideas extend beyond the downfall of
ankylosaurus and company. Reviving an emphasis on volcanism, which
was the leading hypothesis before the asteroid theory, could
influence the way scientists think about the Earth's many episodes
of greenhouse warming, which mostly have been caused by periods of
volcanic eruptions. In addition, if the majority of scientists
eventually reduce their estimates of the damage done by a single
asteroid, that shift in thinking could influence the current-day
debate on how much attention should be given to tracking and
diverting Earth-bound asteroids and comets in the future.

Keller does not work with big fossils such as dinosaur bones
commonly associated with paleontology. Instead, her expertise is in
one-celled organisms, called foraminifera, which pervade the oceans
and evolved rapidly through geologic periods. Some species exist
for only a couple hundred thousand years before others replace
them, so the fossil remains of short-lived species constitute a
timeline by which surrounding geologic features can be dated.

In a series of field trips to Mexico and other parts of the world,
Keller has accumulated several lines of evidence to support her
view of the K/T extinction. She has found, for example, populations
of pre-K/T foraminifera that lived on top of the impact fallout
from Chicxulub. (The fallout is visible as a layer of glassy beads
of molten rock that rained down after the impact.) These fossils
indicate that this impact came about 300,000 years before the mass
extinction.

The latest evidence came last year from an expedition by an
international team of scientists who drilled 1,511 meters into the
Chicxulub crater looking for definitive evidence of its size and
age. Although interpretations of the drilling samples vary, Keller
contends that the results contradict nearly every established
assumption about Chicxulub and confirm that the Cretaceous period
persisted for 300,000 years after the impact. In addition, the
Chicxulub crater appears to be much smaller than originally thought
-- less than 120 kilometers in diameter compared with the original
estimates of 180 to 300 kilometers.

Keller and colleagues are now studying the effects of powerful
volcanic eruptions that began more than 500,000 years before the
K/T boundary and caused a period of global warming. At sites in the
Indian Ocean, Madagascar, Israel and Egypt, they are finding
evidence that volcanism caused biotic stress almost as severe as
the K/T mass extinction itself. These results suggest that asteroid
impacts and volcanism may be hard to distinguish based on their
effects on plant and animal life and that the K/T mass extinction
could be the result of both, said Keller.

Note: A longer version of this news release appeared in the
Princeton Weekly Bulletin:

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/03/0922/
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Old September 25th 03, 09:36 PM
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http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/03/q3/0925-keller.htm

Princeton University
Office of Communications
22 Chambers St.
Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Telephone 609-258-3601; Fax 609-258-1301

For immediate release: September 25, 2003
Contact: Steven Schultz, (609) 258-5729,

Princeton paleontologist produces evidence for new theory on
dinosaur extinction

PRINCETON, N.J. -- As a paleontologist, Gerta Keller has studied
many aspects of the history of life on Earth. But the question
capturing her attention lately is one so basic it has passed the
lips of generations of 6-year-olds: What killed the dinosaurs?

The answers she has been uncovering for the last decade have
stirred an adult-sized debate that puts Keller at odds with many
scientists who study the question. Keller, a professor in
Princeton's Department of Geosciences, is among a minority of
scientists who believe that the story of the dinosaurs' demise is
much more complicated than the familiar and dominant theory that a
single asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago and caused the mass
extinction known as the Cretacious-Tertiary, or K/T, boundary.

Keller and a growing number of colleagues around the world are
turning up evidence that, rather than a single event, an intensive
period of volcanic eruptions as well as a series of asteroid
impacts are likely to have stressed the world ecosystem to the
breaking point. Although an asteroid or comet probably struck Earth
at the time of the dinosaur extinction, it most likely was, as
Keller says, "the straw that broke the camel's back" and not the
sole cause.

Perhaps more controversially, Keller and colleagues contend that
the "straw" -- that final impact -- is probably not what most
scientists believe it is. For more than a decade, the prevailing
theory has centered on a massive impact crater in Mexico. In 1990,
scientists proposed that the Chicxulub crater, as it became known,
was the remnant of the fateful dinosaur-killing event and that
theory has since become dogma.

Keller has accumulated evidence, including results released this
year, suggesting that the Chicxulub crater probably did not
coincide with the K/T boundary. Instead, the impact that caused the
Chicxulub crater was likely smaller than originally believed and
probably occurred 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The
final dinosaur-killer probably struck Earth somewhere else and
remains undiscovered, said Keller.

These views have not made Keller a popular figure at meteorite
impact meetings. "For a long time she's been in a very
uncomfortable minority," said Vincent Courtillot, a geological
physicist at Université Paris 7. The view that there was anything
more than a single impact at work in the mass extinction of 65
million years ago "has been battered meeting after meeting by a
majority of very renowned scientists," said Courtillot.

The implications of Keller's ideas extend beyond the downfall of
ankylosaurus and company. Reviving an emphasis on volcanism, which
was the leading hypothesis before the asteroid theory, could
influence the way scientists think about the Earth's many episodes
of greenhouse warming, which mostly have been caused by periods of
volcanic eruptions. In addition, if the majority of scientists
eventually reduce their estimates of the damage done by a single
asteroid, that shift in thinking could influence the current-day
debate on how much attention should be given to tracking and
diverting Earth-bound asteroids and comets in the future.

Keller does not work with big fossils such as dinosaur bones
commonly associated with paleontology. Instead, her expertise is in
one-celled organisms, called foraminifera, which pervade the oceans
and evolved rapidly through geologic periods. Some species exist
for only a couple hundred thousand years before others replace
them, so the fossil remains of short-lived species constitute a
timeline by which surrounding geologic features can be dated.

In a series of field trips to Mexico and other parts of the world,
Keller has accumulated several lines of evidence to support her
view of the K/T extinction. She has found, for example, populations
of pre-K/T foraminifera that lived on top of the impact fallout
from Chicxulub. (The fallout is visible as a layer of glassy beads
of molten rock that rained down after the impact.) These fossils
indicate that this impact came about 300,000 years before the mass
extinction.

The latest evidence came last year from an expedition by an
international team of scientists who drilled 1,511 meters into the
Chicxulub crater looking for definitive evidence of its size and
age. Although interpretations of the drilling samples vary, Keller
contends that the results contradict nearly every established
assumption about Chicxulub and confirm that the Cretaceous period
persisted for 300,000 years after the impact. In addition, the
Chicxulub crater appears to be much smaller than originally thought
-- less than 120 kilometers in diameter compared with the original
estimates of 180 to 300 kilometers.

Keller and colleagues are now studying the effects of powerful
volcanic eruptions that began more than 500,000 years before the
K/T boundary and caused a period of global warming. At sites in the
Indian Ocean, Madagascar, Israel and Egypt, they are finding
evidence that volcanism caused biotic stress almost as severe as
the K/T mass extinction itself. These results suggest that asteroid
impacts and volcanism may be hard to distinguish based on their
effects on plant and animal life and that the K/T mass extinction
could be the result of both, said Keller.

Note: A longer version of this news release appeared in the
Princeton Weekly Bulletin:

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/03/0922/


This is essentially what I've been saying all along.


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Old September 25th 03, 10:52 PM
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http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/03/q3/0925-keller.htm

Princeton University
Office of Communications
22 Chambers St.
Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Telephone 609-258-3601; Fax 609-258-1301

For immediate release: September 25, 2003
Contact: Steven Schultz, (609) 258-5729,

Princeton paleontologist produces evidence for new theory on
dinosaur extinction

PRINCETON, N.J. -- As a paleontologist, Gerta Keller has studied
many aspects of the history of life on Earth. But the question
capturing her attention lately is one so basic it has passed the
lips of generations of 6-year-olds: What killed the dinosaurs?

The answers she has been uncovering for the last decade have
stirred an adult-sized debate that puts Keller at odds with many
scientists who study the question. Keller, a professor in
Princeton's Department of Geosciences, is among a minority of
scientists who believe that the story of the dinosaurs' demise is
much more complicated than the familiar and dominant theory that a
single asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago and caused the mass
extinction known as the Cretacious-Tertiary, or K/T, boundary.

Keller and a growing number of colleagues around the world are
turning up evidence that, rather than a single event, an intensive
period of volcanic eruptions as well as a series of asteroid
impacts are likely to have stressed the world ecosystem to the
breaking point. Although an asteroid or comet probably struck Earth
at the time of the dinosaur extinction, it most likely was, as
Keller says, "the straw that broke the camel's back" and not the
sole cause.

Perhaps more controversially, Keller and colleagues contend that
the "straw" -- that final impact -- is probably not what most
scientists believe it is. For more than a decade, the prevailing
theory has centered on a massive impact crater in Mexico. In 1990,
scientists proposed that the Chicxulub crater, as it became known,
was the remnant of the fateful dinosaur-killing event and that
theory has since become dogma.

Keller has accumulated evidence, including results released this
year, suggesting that the Chicxulub crater probably did not
coincide with the K/T boundary. Instead, the impact that caused the
Chicxulub crater was likely smaller than originally believed and
probably occurred 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The
final dinosaur-killer probably struck Earth somewhere else and
remains undiscovered, said Keller.

These views have not made Keller a popular figure at meteorite
impact meetings. "For a long time she's been in a very
uncomfortable minority," said Vincent Courtillot, a geological
physicist at Université Paris 7. The view that there was anything
more than a single impact at work in the mass extinction of 65
million years ago "has been battered meeting after meeting by a
majority of very renowned scientists," said Courtillot.

The implications of Keller's ideas extend beyond the downfall of
ankylosaurus and company. Reviving an emphasis on volcanism, which
was the leading hypothesis before the asteroid theory, could
influence the way scientists think about the Earth's many episodes
of greenhouse warming, which mostly have been caused by periods of
volcanic eruptions. In addition, if the majority of scientists
eventually reduce their estimates of the damage done by a single
asteroid, that shift in thinking could influence the current-day
debate on how much attention should be given to tracking and
diverting Earth-bound asteroids and comets in the future.

Keller does not work with big fossils such as dinosaur bones
commonly associated with paleontology. Instead, her expertise is in
one-celled organisms, called foraminifera, which pervade the oceans
and evolved rapidly through geologic periods. Some species exist
for only a couple hundred thousand years before others replace
them, so the fossil remains of short-lived species constitute a
timeline by which surrounding geologic features can be dated.

In a series of field trips to Mexico and other parts of the world,
Keller has accumulated several lines of evidence to support her
view of the K/T extinction. She has found, for example, populations
of pre-K/T foraminifera that lived on top of the impact fallout
from Chicxulub. (The fallout is visible as a layer of glassy beads
of molten rock that rained down after the impact.) These fossils
indicate that this impact came about 300,000 years before the mass
extinction.

The latest evidence came last year from an expedition by an
international team of scientists who drilled 1,511 meters into the
Chicxulub crater looking for definitive evidence of its size and
age. Although interpretations of the drilling samples vary, Keller
contends that the results contradict nearly every established
assumption about Chicxulub and confirm that the Cretaceous period
persisted for 300,000 years after the impact. In addition, the
Chicxulub crater appears to be much smaller than originally thought
-- less than 120 kilometers in diameter compared with the original
estimates of 180 to 300 kilometers.

Keller and colleagues are now studying the effects of powerful
volcanic eruptions that began more than 500,000 years before the
K/T boundary and caused a period of global warming. At sites in the
Indian Ocean, Madagascar, Israel and Egypt, they are finding
evidence that volcanism caused biotic stress almost as severe as
the K/T mass extinction itself. These results suggest that asteroid
impacts and volcanism may be hard to distinguish based on their
effects on plant and animal life and that the K/T mass extinction
could be the result of both, said Keller.

Note: A longer version of this news release appeared in the
Princeton Weekly Bulletin:

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/03/0922/


This is essentially what I've been saying all along.



I hope everyone reads the longer version of this carefully deited press
release it contains one of the absolutely hilarious statements I've seen
about a scientific discovery since cold fusion:

In other studies spread across a range of excavation sites, Keller has found
evidence that the ecological disruption caused by the Chicxulub impact may
not have been as severe as originally thought. She found normal marine
sediments lying directly on top of the fallout layer, suggesting that there
were no tsunami waves or other major disturbances.

Let me get this straight, an impact that caused a crater of less than 120km
diameter didn't cause any tidal waves? I hope this conclusion was drawn by
some PR guy and not by someone associated with the actual research.

Ken


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Old September 26th 03, 07:57 AM
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"George" wrote in message
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http://www.princeton.edu/pr/news/03/q3/0925-keller.htm

Princeton University
Office of Communications
22 Chambers St.
Princeton, New Jersey 08542
Telephone 609-258-3601; Fax 609-258-1301

For immediate release: September 25, 2003
Contact: Steven Schultz, (609) 258-5729,

Princeton paleontologist produces evidence for new theory on
dinosaur extinction

PRINCETON, N.J. -- As a paleontologist, Gerta Keller has studied
many aspects of the history of life on Earth. But the question
capturing her attention lately is one so basic it has passed the
lips of generations of 6-year-olds: What killed the dinosaurs?

The answers she has been uncovering for the last decade have
stirred an adult-sized debate that puts Keller at odds with many
scientists who study the question. Keller, a professor in
Princeton's Department of Geosciences, is among a minority of
scientists who believe that the story of the dinosaurs' demise is
much more complicated than the familiar and dominant theory that a
single asteroid hit Earth 65 million years ago and caused the mass
extinction known as the Cretacious-Tertiary, or K/T, boundary.

Keller and a growing number of colleagues around the world are
turning up evidence that, rather than a single event, an intensive
period of volcanic eruptions as well as a series of asteroid
impacts are likely to have stressed the world ecosystem to the
breaking point. Although an asteroid or comet probably struck Earth
at the time of the dinosaur extinction, it most likely was, as
Keller says, "the straw that broke the camel's back" and not the
sole cause.

Perhaps more controversially, Keller and colleagues contend that
the "straw" -- that final impact -- is probably not what most
scientists believe it is. For more than a decade, the prevailing
theory has centered on a massive impact crater in Mexico. In 1990,
scientists proposed that the Chicxulub crater, as it became known,
was the remnant of the fateful dinosaur-killing event and that
theory has since become dogma.

Keller has accumulated evidence, including results released this
year, suggesting that the Chicxulub crater probably did not
coincide with the K/T boundary. Instead, the impact that caused the
Chicxulub crater was likely smaller than originally believed and
probably occurred 300,000 years before the mass extinction. The
final dinosaur-killer probably struck Earth somewhere else and
remains undiscovered, said Keller.

These views have not made Keller a popular figure at meteorite
impact meetings. "For a long time she's been in a very
uncomfortable minority," said Vincent Courtillot, a geological
physicist at Université Paris 7. The view that there was anything
more than a single impact at work in the mass extinction of 65
million years ago "has been battered meeting after meeting by a
majority of very renowned scientists," said Courtillot.

The implications of Keller's ideas extend beyond the downfall of
ankylosaurus and company. Reviving an emphasis on volcanism, which
was the leading hypothesis before the asteroid theory, could
influence the way scientists think about the Earth's many episodes
of greenhouse warming, which mostly have been caused by periods of
volcanic eruptions. In addition, if the majority of scientists
eventually reduce their estimates of the damage done by a single
asteroid, that shift in thinking could influence the current-day
debate on how much attention should be given to tracking and
diverting Earth-bound asteroids and comets in the future.

Keller does not work with big fossils such as dinosaur bones
commonly associated with paleontology. Instead, her expertise is in
one-celled organisms, called foraminifera, which pervade the oceans
and evolved rapidly through geologic periods. Some species exist
for only a couple hundred thousand years before others replace
them, so the fossil remains of short-lived species constitute a
timeline by which surrounding geologic features can be dated.

In a series of field trips to Mexico and other parts of the world,
Keller has accumulated several lines of evidence to support her
view of the K/T extinction. She has found, for example, populations
of pre-K/T foraminifera that lived on top of the impact fallout
from Chicxulub. (The fallout is visible as a layer of glassy beads
of molten rock that rained down after the impact.) These fossils
indicate that this impact came about 300,000 years before the mass
extinction.

The latest evidence came last year from an expedition by an
international team of scientists who drilled 1,511 meters into the
Chicxulub crater looking for definitive evidence of its size and
age. Although interpretations of the drilling samples vary, Keller
contends that the results contradict nearly every established
assumption about Chicxulub and confirm that the Cretaceous period
persisted for 300,000 years after the impact. In addition, the
Chicxulub crater appears to be much smaller than originally thought
-- less than 120 kilometers in diameter compared with the original
estimates of 180 to 300 kilometers.

Keller and colleagues are now studying the effects of powerful
volcanic eruptions that began more than 500,000 years before the
K/T boundary and caused a period of global warming. At sites in the
Indian Ocean, Madagascar, Israel and Egypt, they are finding
evidence that volcanism caused biotic stress almost as severe as
the K/T mass extinction itself. These results suggest that asteroid
impacts and volcanism may be hard to distinguish based on their
effects on plant and animal life and that the K/T mass extinction
could be the result of both, said Keller.

Note: A longer version of this news release appeared in the
Princeton Weekly Bulletin:

http://www.princeton.edu/pr/pwb/03/0922/


This is essentially what I've been saying all along.



I hope everyone reads the longer version of this carefully deited press
release it contains one of the absolutely hilarious statements I've seen
about a scientific discovery since cold fusion:

In other studies spread across a range of excavation sites, Keller has

found
evidence that the ecological disruption caused by the Chicxulub impact may
not have been as severe as originally thought. She found normal marine
sediments lying directly on top of the fallout layer, suggesting that

there
were no tsunami waves or other major disturbances.

Let me get this straight, an impact that caused a crater of less than

120km
diameter didn't cause any tidal waves? I hope this conclusion was drawn by
some PR guy and not by someone associated with the actual research.

Ken


If she found undisturbed strata directly above the fallout layer, what is
your interpretation? Please note, she didn't make a conclusion, she only
stated that it *suggested* that "no tsunami waves or other major
disturbances" occurred. It is her interpretation of the data, which she, as
author of the report, is entitled to do. If you think she is wrong, by all
means, go out there and collect the data, and prove her wrong. That's what
science is all about, is it not?


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Old September 26th 03, 08:00 AM
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Normal Georges ! ...since you are such a clueless Gogologist ...like the
others by the way !

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This is essentially what I've been saying all along.




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Old September 26th 03, 08:13 AM
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Thanks Ken !

Someone at least having retained some of his god-given free will !

Congratulations my friend !

--
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Discoverer of Telfer; Kintyre & Nifty Mines-Great Sandy Desert.
Discoverer of the South Atlantic Submarine Gold Placers
( 40 Millions Tons estimate )
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In other studies spread across a range of excavation sites, Keller has

found
evidence that the ecological disruption caused by the Chicxulub impact may
not have been as severe as originally thought. She found normal marine
sediments lying directly on top of the fallout layer, suggesting that

there
were no tsunami waves or other major disturbances.

Let me get this straight, an impact that caused a crater of less than

120km
diameter didn't cause any tidal waves? I hope this conclusion was drawn by
some PR guy and not by someone associated with the actual research.

Ken




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Old September 26th 03, 09:32 AM
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"George" wrote in message
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That's what science is all about, is it not?

Quite right George, to me it looks like Gerta is
doing science and not spouting dogma like others.


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Old September 26th 03, 12:05 PM
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"AliCat" wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
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That's what science is all about, is it not?

Quite right George, to me it looks like Gerta is
doing science and not spouting dogma like others.


Well, it obviously what she is doing is controversial. But no less so than
the impact hypothesis itself.


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Old September 26th 03, 02:21 PM
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George wrote:

"Ken Shaw" wrote in message
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"George" wrote in message
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(BIG SNIP)


I hope everyone reads the longer version of this carefully deited press
release it contains one of the absolutely hilarious statements I've seen
about a scientific discovery since cold fusion:

In other studies spread across a range of excavation sites, Keller has

found
evidence that the ecological disruption caused by the Chicxulub impact may
not have been as severe as originally thought. She found normal marine
sediments lying directly on top of the fallout layer, suggesting that

there
were no tsunami waves or other major disturbances.

Let me get this straight, an impact that caused a crater of less than

120km
diameter didn't cause any tidal waves? I hope this conclusion was drawn by
some PR guy and not by someone associated with the actual research.

Ken


If she found undisturbed strata directly above the fallout layer, what is
your interpretation? Please note, she didn't make a conclusion, she only
stated that it *suggested* that "no tsunami waves or other major
disturbances" occurred. It is her interpretation of the data, which she, as
author of the report, is entitled to do. If you think she is wrong, by all
means, go out there and collect the data, and prove her wrong. That's what
science is all about, is it not?


The way I look at it, the tsunamis generated by the impact could easily
have washed their way around the world and done their work of disturbing
the sediments *before* the fallout made it back down into the atmosphere
and thru the water down to the seafloor. Plus, you're not going to have
sediments disturbed in deep enough water (no, I don't know what the
exact depth would be) even by a really *BIG* tsunami. Hence no
disturbances in the sediments above or below the fallout layer.

Jim
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Old September 27th 03, 04:23 PM
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:52:19 GMT, "Ken Shaw"
wrote:


I hope everyone reads the longer version of this carefully deited press
release it contains one of the absolutely hilarious statements I've seen
about a scientific discovery since cold fusion:

In other studies spread across a range of excavation sites, Keller has found
evidence that the ecological disruption caused by the Chicxulub impact may
not have been as severe as originally thought. She found normal marine
sediments lying directly on top of the fallout layer, suggesting that there
were no tsunami waves or other major disturbances.


Let me get this straight, an impact that caused a crater of less than 120km
diameter didn't cause any tidal waves? I hope this conclusion was drawn by
some PR guy and not by someone associated with the actual research.


In detail, the K-T boundary does not show a perfect picture of K
strata overlain by *one* Ir-, Pd-, and spherule-rich impact layer,
which, in turn, underlies T strata. More often than not, the boundary
includes several layers with impact- and/or ejecta-related
signatures, whose age is not always well constrained.

Many argue that the occurrence of multiple spherule layers at the K-T
boundary is the result of reworking of one original layer, which was
subsequently disturbed and redeposited by catastrophic slumps,
slides, submarine flows, and tsunami waves associated with the
Chicxulub impact. If the above scenario is true, the fact that K-T
boundary layer(s) does not have exactly the same age everywhere is not
troubling: reworking also means that age determination based on
fossils is not reliable.

Thus, if one finds a spherule layer underlying, for example, a tsunami
deposits, that layer could be assigned to the K-T boundary based on
the assumption that the tsunami wave was triggered by the Chicxulub
impact. Is that correct? No, says Keller, because the layers present
at the K-T boundary are not all the result of reworking, and some of
them are actually related to different impact events. And she points
out an outcrop in Mexico where 2- to 8-meter thick,
tsunami-interpreted deposits overlie a unit with two spherule layers,
and she shows that the "tsunami" sandstone actually includes several
separated horizons of bioturbation. Ergo, no tsunami wave and no
Chicxulub-age for those spherule layers, and, therefore, probably more
than one impact. And she is able to test this hypothesis in many other
K-T boundary sites.

Regards,

Mircea
 




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